[Marks] A loophole in the CBA could allow Golden State to sign Andrew Bogut

[likashing]

There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

Not really. The point is to stop under the table handshakes that the team (Mavs) that traded for the player (Bogut) would waive the player after the original trade so the player would return to the old team (GS). Which I think happened before, but I forgot the specific players and teams.

Since the Mavs have already traded Bogut to the 76ers, if the secret agreement were to have Bogut return to GS, it would mean the 3 teams had a secret agreement together, which is nearly impossible to accomplish. That is exactly why the NBA wrote "last trade" in the rules to protect against the 1st scenario.

It's not really a loophole. It's just a rule. Albeit not understood by most.

[Alonzo_Morning]

There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

Not really. The point is to stop under the table handshakes that the team (Mavs) that traded for the player (Bogut) would waive the player after the original trade so the player would return to the old team (GS). Which I think happened before, but I forgot the specific players and teams.

Since the Mavs have already traded Bogut to the 76ers, if the secret agreement were to have Bogut return to GS, it would mean the 3 teams had a secret agreement together, which is nearly impossible to accomplish. That is exactly why the NBA wrote "last trade" in the rules to protect against the 1st scenario.

It's not really a loophole. It's just a rule. Albeit not understood by most.

Exactly, there's no loophole here.

It's just a matter of interpreting the words correctly

[MoMan24]

There's no way the NBA would interpret the rule that way. The entire point of the rule is to stop teams from trading a player and getting him back for nothing in the same year - which is exactly what Bogut would be doing. In any event, I'll enjoy reading Cuban's letter to the NBA if the Warriors even try.

I agree you shouldn't be able to have acquire a player you traded away for exactly a year to the day he was traded away regardless of how many teams he was on within that year. The competition committee will probably fix the wording so there is no doubt about what the rule itself. You cant trade a key player to acquire or make cap space another key player and than somehow have both those players with over six weeks until the playoffs. That is flawed and I don't think anyone can argue with that.

The intent of the rule was to stop conspiring teams and players from linking back up after a trade. That's not what happened here.

I understand but I think the rule should be a year to the day on a player you traded away.

[jbk1234]

I agree you shouldn't be able to have acquire a player you traded away for exactly a year to the day he was traded away regardless of how many teams he was on within that year. The competition committee will probably fix the wording so there is no doubt about what the rule itself. You cant trade a key player to acquire or make cap space another key player and than somehow have both those players with over six weeks until the playoffs. That is flawed and I don't think anyone can argue with that.

The intent of the rule was to stop conspiring teams and players from linking back up after a trade. That's not what happened here.

I understand but I think the rule should be a year to the day on a player you traded away.

Based on all the reports, Bogut has no intention of returning to GS anyway so this is an academic discussion.

[MoMan24]

The intent of the rule was to stop conspiring teams and players from linking back up after a trade. That's not what happened here.

I understand but I think the rule should be a year to the day on a player you traded away.

Based on all the reports, Bogut has no intention of returning to GS anyway so this is an academic discussion.

I figured as much. It just does't set well with me that a team can trade a player away to acquire a player and get back the traded player before the playoffs. That just seems flawed to me and maybe I'm not making sense here. I just don't think you can have your cake and eat it to type of thing. I don't know.

[BayArea408415]

I wouldn't mind Bogut coming back if he wanted but from what I've seen this year, he's just not the same Bogut he was last year pre-injury in the Finals. I doubt he could handle more than 10 minutes a game, which is fine to be honest since I doubt he would get much more than that. Anyways, if he doesn't return, I wish him the best of luck anywhere besides the Cavs.

Personally, I doubt he goes to the Warriors or Cavs. I wouldn't mind seeing someone in the East like the Celtics, Raptors or Wizards pick him up though.

[gordonyao]

I would love to see him joining the spurs

[Johnny Bball]

Pretty interesting stuff. Would Bogut be open to returning to the team that got rid of him, or would he look to seek payback?

Think he would need to have bad feelings if he signed for cavs...would like to think he wouldn't go to the team that he suffered from last year but who knows.

You mean like durant?

[nbafan38]

I just dont understand why a player would return to the team that dumped him. I understand it was for a top 5 player but still the warriors already won a title with Bogut and were on their way to a second one with Bogut until he got hurt. If I;m Bogut I would have been insulted and would want to beat the team that said I wasn't worth keeping but players these days are odd.

[Chinook]

I wouldn't be disappointed if Bogut replacing Joel, but I just don't get why people are trying to link the teams. The Spurs have the best front court in the league (1-6) and don't need to fall over themselves to sign a guy who wouldn't play under normal circumstances.

[Simmons25]

I just dont understand why a player would return to the team that dumped him. I understand it was for a top 5 player but still the warriors already won a title with Bogut and were on their way to a second one with Bogut until he got hurt. If I;m Bogut I would have been insulted and would want to beat the team that said I wasn't worth keeping but players these days are odd.

Bogut was pissed... he initially was pissed with the front office for trying to break up a 73-9 championship team when he heard all the Durant rumours. Bogut said players in the lockerroom were wondering where the Durant rumours were coming from in an interview during the playoffs.

To then find out it was players WITHIN that lockeroom in Curry, Thompson, Green and Iguodala that were the ones conspiring to get Durant... and they kept it behind all of the others backs... that would be unforgivable... I don't think he would have liked the conniving way it was done at all.

[Warriorfan]

Bogut is closer too the end of his career than beginning. Championships and ties to the business opportunities should trump personal feelings plus I believe he understands it's a business more than most players.

[NBAfan3024]

Sounds like there's no interest from either side

[Mylie10]

I hope we bring Bogut back.

If the Pelicans get the 8th seed, Bogut owns Cousin's soul....as well as the Clippers front line.

[woosah]

Wait i thought he wanted to go to cleveland.

[Torres]

Join the Cavs and give a big FU to Dubs for letting him go. Payback is so much sweeter.

[clippertown]

So does this mean the Clippers could trade Jamal to a team like the Nets along with some cash and a 1st round pick, then have the Nets waive Jamal a few days later so the Clips can re-sign him to a vet minimum deal?

Jamal would get paid out on his original deal and then make more money from his second deal. Meanwhile, our cap would be manipulated and we might be able to sign additional players. I would think many veterans would be open to this if it was to extend their careers. Its definitely not something the league wants to happen, so why let it happen for Bogut?

How much more help does GSW need? I could not respect the Warriors any less. They are embarrassing the sport. They need to grow a set and win without loading the deck. For champions, they sure are quick to take the easy path to a meaningless victory.

[Warriorfan]

So does this mean the Clippers could trade Jamal to a team like the Nets along with some cash and a 1st round pick, then have the Nets waive Jamal a few days later so the Clips can re-sign him to a vet minimum deal?

Jamal would get paid out on his original deal and then make more money from his second deal. Meanwhile, our cap would be manipulated and we might be able to sign additional players. I would think many veterans would be open to this if it was to extend their careers. Its definitely not something the league wants to happen, so why let it happen for Bogut?

How much more help does GSW need? I could not respect the Warriors any less. They are embarrassing the sport. They need to grow a set and win without loading the deck. For champions, they sure are quick to take the easy path to a meaningless victory.

A third team makes colusion less likely.
Championships are never easy as the Warriors found out last year. So nothing should be taken for granted every team should take every legal measure to win a championship.

[Rafael122]

I just dont understand why a player would return to the team that dumped him. I understand it was for a top 5 player but still the warriors already won a title with Bogut and were on their way to a second one with Bogut until he got hurt. If I;m Bogut I would have been insulted and would want to beat the team that said I wasn't worth keeping but players these days are odd.

Bogut was pissed... he initially was pissed with the front office for trying to break up a 73-9 championship team when he heard all the Durant rumours. Bogut said players in the lockerroom were wondering where the Durant rumours were coming from in an interview during the playoffs.

To then find out it was players WITHIN that lockeroom in Curry, Thompson, Green and Iguodala that were the ones conspiring to get Durant... and they kept it behind all of the others backs... that would be unforgivable... I don't think he would have liked the conniving way it was done at all.

Irony is in order to keep their core 4, they might move on from Iggy as well. Unless he takes a massive pay cut.

[wfiles]

So does this mean the Clippers could trade Jamal to a team like the Nets along with some cash and a 1st round pick, then have the Nets waive Jamal a few days later so the Clips can re-sign him to a vet minimum deal?

Jamal would get paid out on his original deal and then make more money from his second deal. Meanwhile, our cap would be manipulated and we might be able to sign additional players. I would think many veterans would be open to this if it was to extend their careers. Its definitely not something the league wants to happen, so why let it happen for Bogut?

How much more help does GSW need? I could not respect the Warriors any less. They are embarrassing the sport. They need to grow a set and win without loading the deck. For champions, they sure are quick to take the easy path to a meaningless victory.

You need another team in that scenario. Bogut was traded from Warriors to Mavs. Mavs traded Bogut to 76ers and then was waived. It's not easy to exploit this rule.