GT: 2/24/17 Bucks vs. Jazz (7pm CST - FS-WI)

[LedZepp007]

Headed to the game tonight, expecting a loss lol.

Any good burger places near the BMO? Aside from AJ Bombers, been there too many times.

Of course, you should really be going to the Brat House.


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[Prez]

Giannis never get locked by 1 player alone, it usually team doubling him or playing very close to the paint,otherwise they cannot stop him1 v1.

This isn't close to true, Giannis has had plenty of games where he struggles against certain defenders...like literally every other player in the history of the game has at times. If you want a very blatant example, look no further than the Knicks game at home this year when Porzingis locked him up when he guarded him 1 on 1.

There is a difference of struggling and getting locked. Giannis struggle against zone defense.I havent seen him getting locked down on 1 v 1. Porzingis wanst even guarding him most of time, Giannis missed like3 shots against him and got blocked once, its not big deal.
Giannis just couldn't hit shots and not because Porzingis locked him.

Locked down means what Giannis did to kawhi and Jimmy butler. one held him down to 6 points until he came off due to foul trouble and other had 5 points or so for the whole game...

Nope.

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/128355/anthonys-passing-porzingis-defense-and-ron-baker-key-knicks-comeback

Giannis Antetokounmpo scored 22 points on 8-of-13 shooting from the field in the first three quarters, but he was 1-of-8 in the final 12 minutes. That included 0-of-3 (with two shots blocked) when guarded by Kristaps Porzingis.

Porzingis outscored Antetokounmpo 8-3 in the fourth quarter before fouling out. The 7-foot-3 Latvian held Antetokounmpo to 3-of-9 shooting (0-of-5 on contested shots) and two turnovers for the game.

It sucks to say it but KP put the clamps on Giannis when he guarded him. It was pretty clear watching the game, KP did a surprisingly good job staying with him laterally and his length really gave him issues.

Also, it's funny you talk about how Porzingis wasn't even guarding Giannis that much (when he was), but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

[Magic Giannison]

This isn't close to true, Giannis has had plenty of games where he struggles against certain defenders...like literally every other player in the history of the game has at times. If you want a very blatant example, look no further than the Knicks game at home this year when Porzingis locked him up when he guarded him 1 on 1.

There is a difference of struggling and getting locked. Giannis struggle against zone defense.I havent seen him getting locked down on 1 v 1. Porzingis wanst even guarding him most of time, Giannis missed like3 shots against him and got blocked once, its not big deal.
Giannis just couldn't hit shots and not because Porzingis locked him.

Locked down means what Giannis did to kawhi and Jimmy butler. one held him down to 6 points until he came off due to foul trouble and other had 5 points or so for the whole game...

Nope.

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/128355/anthonys-passing-porzingis-defense-and-ron-baker-key-knicks-comeback

Giannis Antetokounmpo scored 22 points on 8-of-13 shooting from the field in the first three quarters, but he was 1-of-8 in the final 12 minutes. That included 0-of-3 (with two shots blocked) when guarded by Kristaps Porzingis.

Porzingis outscored Antetokounmpo 8-3 in the fourth quarter before fouling out. The 7-foot-3 Latvian held Antetokounmpo to 3-of-9 shooting (0-of-5 on contested shots) and two turnovers for the game.

It sucks to say it but KP put the clamps on Giannis when he guarded him. It was pretty clear watching the game, KP did a surprisingly good job staying with him laterally and his length really gave him issues.

Also, it's funny you talk about how Porzingis wasn't even guarding Giannis that much (when he was), but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

I already told you, don't give me the crap of ESPN when summary when its incorrect. porzingis barely guarded Giannis because he was in foul trouble. Giannis missed some shots as he was forcing in last minutes because team couldn't hit **** so he was forcing shots. Despite that Giannis still was better than porzingis.ESPn is witting crap just to hype the battle between him and Giannis, just because Giannis took shots in front of him doesn't mean he got locked up him,it means GIannis was missing.

25/6/2/2/5 isnts locked up.Heck Giannnis despite the team losing and playing more minutes had better +/- than porzingis.

Again, Check Butler and kawhi vs us, there youl see a perfect example of locke dup,struggle=/= locked up.

[Magic Giannison]

it was Giannis that shut down Butler,not Jabari, lol.
https://watch.nba.com/game/20161216/MILCHI

[CHI] Butler Turnover : Bad Pass (1 TO) Steal:Antetokounmpo (1 ST)

[pxp920]

I remember Giannis really struggling on a select few games but I think it's a combination of him having a sub par night and the defender having a stellar night. Not worried about tonight, definite win, long streak coming.

[Prez]

There is a difference of struggling and getting locked. Giannis struggle against zone defense.I havent seen him getting locked down on 1 v 1. Porzingis wanst even guarding him most of time, Giannis missed like3 shots against him and got blocked once, its not big deal.
Giannis just couldn't hit shots and not because Porzingis locked him.

Locked down means what Giannis did to kawhi and Jimmy butler. one held him down to 6 points until he came off due to foul trouble and other had 5 points or so for the whole game...

Nope.

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/128355/anthonys-passing-porzingis-defense-and-ron-baker-key-knicks-comeback

Giannis Antetokounmpo scored 22 points on 8-of-13 shooting from the field in the first three quarters, but he was 1-of-8 in the final 12 minutes. That included 0-of-3 (with two shots blocked) when guarded by Kristaps Porzingis.

Porzingis outscored Antetokounmpo 8-3 in the fourth quarter before fouling out. The 7-foot-3 Latvian held Antetokounmpo to 3-of-9 shooting (0-of-5 on contested shots) and two turnovers for the game.

It sucks to say it but KP put the clamps on Giannis when he guarded him. It was pretty clear watching the game, KP did a surprisingly good job staying with him laterally and his length really gave him issues.

Also, it's funny you talk about how Porzingis wasn't even guarding Giannis that much (when he was), but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

I already told you, don't give me the crap of ESPN when summary when its incorrect. porzingis barely guarded Giannis because he was in foul trouble. Giannis missed some shots as he was forcing in last minutes because team couldn't hit **** so he was forcing shots. Despite that Giannis still was better than porzingis.ESPn is witting crap just to hype the battle between him and Giannis, just because Giannis took shots in front of him doesn't mean he got locked up him,it means GIannis was missing.

25/6/2/2/5 isnts locked up.Heck Giannnis despite the team losing and playing more minutes had better +/- than porzingis.

Again, Check Butler and kawhi vs us, there youl see a perfect example of locke dup,struggle=/= locked up.

There's literally nothing to make up. The stats are right there. Giannis was 3-9 for the game when guarded 1 on 1 by Porzingis, including 0-5 on contested shots. He was also 0-3 in the 4th when guarded by Porzingis 1 on 1. This isn't narrative, these are straight up facts.

[Magic Giannison]

Nope.

http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/128355/anthonys-passing-porzingis-defense-and-ron-baker-key-knicks-comeback


It sucks to say it but KP put the clamps on Giannis when he guarded him. It was pretty clear watching the game, KP did a surprisingly good job staying with him laterally and his length really gave him issues.

Also, it's funny you talk about how Porzingis wasn't even guarding Giannis that much (when he was), but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

I already told you, don't give me the crap of ESPN when summary when its incorrect. porzingis barely guarded Giannis because he was in foul trouble. Giannis missed some shots as he was forcing in last minutes because team couldn't hit **** so he was forcing shots. Despite that Giannis still was better than porzingis.ESPn is witting crap just to hype the battle between him and Giannis, just because Giannis took shots in front of him doesn't mean he got locked up him,it means GIannis was missing.

25/6/2/2/5 isnts locked up.Heck Giannnis despite the team losing and playing more minutes had better +/- than porzingis.

Again, Check Butler and kawhi vs us, there youl see a perfect example of locke dup,struggle=/= locked up.

There's literally nothing to make up. The stats are right there. Giannis was 3-9 for the game when guarded 1 on 1 by Porzingis, including 0-5 on contested shots. He was also 0-3 in the 4th when guarded by Porzingis 1 on 1. This isn't narrative, these are straight up facts.

Dude,you make 0 sense, just because someone forces bad shots and missed down mean he got locked up. Porzingis played more minutes in first than second as he got foul troubled.Your definition of locked up is extremely selective and i noticed that a lot lately. You even laughably said that Jabari, one of the worst defenders on the team locked up Kawhi and Butler when it was Giannis guarding them the majority of the time. Stats play every thing prove it.

He took majority long range shots and missed, go rewatch the game, even the t/o he made Porzingis was nowhere near close to him, he lost it by himself trying to fancy dribble.....

I can stand in front of Giannis all day long and let him shot and if he misses that means i've locked up Giannis?

[har13]

Giannis was great at the first half,second he wasn't good,he missed 2 or 3 layups,nothing to do with Portzigis D because he was in foul trouble,anyway next day Giannis was out because of the illness,i'm speaking about that game only,nothing to do with your conversation,you can continue even if i believe its boring.

[Prez]

I already told you, don't give me the crap of ESPN when summary when its incorrect. porzingis barely guarded Giannis because he was in foul trouble. Giannis missed some shots as he was forcing in last minutes because team couldn't hit **** so he was forcing shots. Despite that Giannis still was better than porzingis.ESPn is witting crap just to hype the battle between him and Giannis, just because Giannis took shots in front of him doesn't mean he got locked up him,it means GIannis was missing.

25/6/2/2/5 isnts locked up.Heck Giannnis despite the team losing and playing more minutes had better +/- than porzingis.

Again, Check Butler and kawhi vs us, there youl see a perfect example of locke dup,struggle=/= locked up.

There's literally nothing to make up. The stats are right there. Giannis was 3-9 for the game when guarded 1 on 1 by Porzingis, including 0-5 on contested shots. He was also 0-3 in the 4th when guarded by Porzingis 1 on 1. This isn't narrative, these are straight up facts.

Dude,you make 0 sense, just because someone forces bad shots and missed down mean he got locked up. Porzingis played more minutes in first than second as he got foul troubled.Your definition of locked up is extremely selective and i noticed that a lot lately. You even laughably said that Jabari, one of the worst defenders on the team locked up Kawhi and Butler when it was Giannis guarding them the majority of the time. Stats play every thing prove it.

He took majority long range shots and missed, go rewatch the game, even the t/o he made Porzingis was nowhere near close to him, he lost it by himself trying to fancy dribble.....

I can stand in front of Giannis all day long and let him shot and if he misses that means i've locked up Giannis?

Nope, more revisionist history. Giannis forced terrible jumpers late in the game, but throughout the game Porzingis stayed with him and didn't allow him space to drive, contested well with his length. Giannis didn't just "miss shots" against Porzingis, he was legitimately contained. Again, the stats are right there. Giannis was literally scoreless on contested shots by Porzingis, and was 3-9 overall. He was locked up.

And I never once said Jabari locked up Butler or Kawhi, keep putting words in my mouth. All I said was that he was the defender for a huge stretch on both, especially Butler who he guarded even more than Giannis.

[3Diamantidis]

It will be interesting to see if giannis can change the scenario against jazz.
I haven't seen the bucks win the jazz from the moment i begun watching their games.
And giannis struggles to get in the paint. Settling for jumpers..Let's see.

[Magic Giannison]

I give, i cannot argue with someone that claims Jabari shut down Bulter and kawhi while being one of the worst player in both games. Especially vs bulls we won by 26 and he was barelly +7 vs +29 of Giannis. Not to mention if you chekc play by play, Jabari barelly played against Butler,Butler played mostly when Giannis was on.....

but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

This is what you said, no matter you twist it its wrong. I know you love Jabari and all, but twisting the outcome against clear evidence is just insane. Stop it.

[Licensed to Il]

Tonight's game will be an interesting gauge of the second half of the season. Both teams rested, Utah onviously a little better than us, we at home. A win has me encouraged we can eeke in tonthe playoffs. A loss has me on the Jim Mora playoff rant till the lotto.

[BucksPackers]

Tonight's game will be an interesting gauge of the second half of the season. Both teams rested, Utah onviously a little better than us, we at home. A win has me encouraged we can eeke in tonthe playoffs. A loss has me on the Jim Mora playoff rant till the lotto.

If we can beat the Jazz we can beat any team in the league. So if we win we are making the playoffs.

[Prez]

I give, i cannot argue with someone that claims Jabari shut down Bulter and kawhi while being one of the worst player in both games. Especially vs bulls we won by 26 and he was barelly +7 vs +29 of Giannis. Not to mention if you chekc play by play, Jabari barelly played against Butler,Butler played mostly when Giannis was on.....

but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

This is what you said, no matter you twist it its wrong. I know you love Jabari and all, but twisting the outcome against clear evidence is just insane. Stop it.

Cut the **** dude. Literally nowhere in that post did I say Jabari locked down Butler or Kawhi. Just that he GUARDED them. Which he did. Especially against Butler, Jabari was the primary defender on him for a HUGE chunk of those games. Help defense played a huge role in containing him.

[Magic Giannison]

I give, i cannot argue with someone that claims Jabari shut down Bulter and kawhi while being one of the worst player in both games. Especially vs bulls we won by 26 and he was barelly +7 vs +29 of Giannis. Not to mention if you chekc play by play, Jabari barelly played against Butler,Butler played mostly when Giannis was on.....

but point to Giannis guarding Kawhi and Butler when Jabari was the one doing a HUGE chunk of the 1 on 1 assignment vs those guys. Major revisionist history going on here.

This is what you said, no matter you twist it its wrong. I know you love Jabari and all, but twisting the outcome against clear evidence is just insane. Stop it.

Cut the **** dude. Literally nowhere in that post did I say Jabari locked down Butler or Kawhi. Just that he GUARDED them. Which he did. Especially against Butler, Jabari was the primary defender on him for a HUGE chunk of those games. Help defense played a huge role in containing him.

I already gave you the link and proof that he barelly played when Butler was in, how the heck he guarded him the majority of time? Even the only T/O Butler had was due to Giannis stealing the ball ...
Jabari that game was worse even than henson..He played low minutes,had terrible stats and was barely a plus on a 26 point win....
Again, go check play by play,Giannis played the most of minutes vs Butler not Jabari.

Jabari is bad defender, period, he is just more terrible on team defense than personal defense but that doesnt make him good.
As for Giannis, like others said before, it was Giannis missing by himself, got nothing to do with porzingis.I remember the exact same discussion after the game on PG and reddit PG game people saying exactly the same thing when Knicks fans came in blazing saying BS that Porzingis stopped Giannis.

[M-C-G]

Cool, another thread about Jabari's defense. How relevant.

[GoldenAntlers]

This was a horrible match up to view live.
Literally the worst game of the season.
Hopefully it looks better on TV tonight.

[JEIS]

Tonight's game will be an interesting gauge of the second half of the season. Both teams rested, Utah onviously a little better than us, we at home. A win has me encouraged we can eeke in tonthe playoffs. A loss has me on the Jim Mora playoff rant till the lotto.

If we can beat the Jazz we can beat any team in the league. So if we win we are making the playoffs.

I thought the same thing after we beat the Cavs.... but about the Cavs.

[Magic Giannison]

Cool, another thread about Jabari's defense. How relevant.

Guess who brought it.

[M-C-G]

Cool, another thread about Jabari's defense. How relevant.

Guess who brought it.

Who cares? And what is the point?