PG Thread (Utah) - Post all-star tank gets rolling?

vlietinho · Post #201 » by **vlietinho** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:16 am

stellation wrote:On a serious note, did you guys watch that **** today? HOLY CRAP! Most of the Aussies are what, 11 **** seasons into this ****? HOW IS IT THE SAME EVERY SINGLE **** SEASON! Get **** with you guys that have had a lifetime of it. What a joke.

Yeah, and what about us Dutchies, **** ****
:nonono:

stellation · Post #202 » by **stellation** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:23 am

vlietinho wrote:
stellation wrote:On a serious note, did you guys watch that **** today? HOLY CRAP! Most of the Aussies are what, 11 **** seasons into this ****? HOW IS IT THE SAME EVERY SINGLE **** SEASON! Get **** with you guys that have had a lifetime of it. What a joke.

Yeah, and what about us Dutchies, **** ****

Never forget, brother.

Watch on YouTube

vlietinho · Post #203 » by **vlietinho** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:53 am

stellation wrote:
vlietinho wrote:
stellation wrote:On a serious note, did you guys watch that **** today? HOLY CRAP! Most of the Aussies are what, 11 **** seasons into this ****? HOW IS IT THE SAME EVERY SINGLE **** SEASON! Get **** with you guys that have had a lifetime of it. What a joke.

Yeah, and what about us Dutchies, **** ****

Never forget, brother.

Watch on YouTube

How could I lol

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worthlessBucks · Post #204 » by **worthlessBucks** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:55 am

FlagsFlyForever · Post #205 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:53 am

stellation wrote:
vlietinho wrote:
stellation wrote:On a serious note, did you guys watch that **** today? HOLY CRAP! Most of the Aussies are what, 11 **** seasons into this ****? HOW IS IT THE SAME EVERY SINGLE **** SEASON! Get **** with you guys that have had a lifetime of it. What a joke.

Yeah, and what about us Dutchies, **** ****

Never forget, brother.

Watch on YouTube

Does anybody remember Jeff Grayer attempting two free throws in the early 90's?

brettski · Post #206 » by **brettski** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:04 am

stellation wrote:
vlietinho wrote:
stellation wrote:On a serious note, did you guys watch that **** today? HOLY CRAP! Most of the Aussies are what, 11 **** seasons into this ****? HOW IS IT THE SAME EVERY SINGLE **** SEASON! Get **** with you guys that have had a lifetime of it. What a joke.

Yeah, and what about us Dutchies, **** ****

Never forget, brother.

Watch on YouTube

I just had to put on the sound to enjoy that. The commentator laughing really sells it

Whiteman · Post #207 » by **Whiteman** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:12 am

First half:

A well coached team vs the Bucks, the result is predictable.

Dobber-16 · Post #208 » by **Dobber-16** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:24 am

stellation wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
randy84 wrote:

Prince12 · Post #209 » by **Prince12** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:43 am

I thought tony snell was pretty good.

drone3 · Post #210 » by **drone3** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:47 am

Draft express makes me feel good

Chapter29 · Post #211 » by **Chapter29** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:37 pm

Hayward is a heck of a player. He got his against Giannis that's for sure. We shouldn't win against this team. They are better...at this moment many teams are better.

Giannis and Beasley were very good. Beasley fills Parker's role pretty well.

Badly need Middleton back in the starting lineup. He wasn't a threat last night. Our starting lineup is featuring far too many backup level players in the NBA. Beasley is playing well and is not a starter himself, but at least he plays one on TV. Replace Snell with Middleton and at least you have 2.5 (Beas half counts) real starters in the lineup.

Snell. A backup. MLE or less level player. Stunk it up. 13M? Puhlease. Someone needs to kidnap Hammond before FA begins.

Delly. A backup. MLE or less level player. Stunk it up. And Brogdon is leveling out a bit. He needs an offseason before he takes the reigns. PG needs to be a target for us this offseason of course.

And finally, Maker isn't playing so poorly that he shouldn't come back in. A more general statement mind you. I don't think he played well last night, kind of meh. But, bring him back in and give him consistent minutes / rotations. He needs it, isn't stinking it up and his replacement isn't some stud. Hell, we aren't winning games anyways so dam.

Fotis St · Post #212 » by **Fotis St** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:48 pm

Prince12 wrote:I thought tony snell was pretty good.

I have been watching him lately.
His defense is overrated.
Too many times he gets lost by back door cuts as JP.
Too many times his opponents drive by him for a layup.
As the graph shows ... he doesn't move the needle both ends.
As a Bulls poster said when we traded for him, you will see him couple games but he will be lost for 5 games.
He has improved but not to the point being a key factor to win a game.
To me, it looks like he has a shy personality, which reduces his overall game both ends.
He is shooting great wide open 3s, but he doesn't shoot as many as he should. I mean we are like 8th in 3P% but our attempts are like half of most NBA teams. Insane.

Overall he is a backup SG you would like to pay a Beverley salarie... 4-5M/y ...

if NOT you can find D Leaguers and rookies doing same things.

What would I do if I were the GM or Owner?
1) Move Kidd to assistant point guard coach or fire him if he doesn't accept.

2) Hire Kevin McHale. He made the Houston playing attractive 3ball with probably less talent than Bucks roster.
Mc Hale embraces the modern 3 ball and will play Teletovic,Snell,Khris,Brogdon,Thon,Hawes,Terry,Delly in a system generating wide open 3s.
Giannis can take the Harden or Howard role.

3) Focusing on the future ... sign the best D-League players waive Terry,Hawes, sign 10 day contracts. Brady Heslip, Terrance Jones.... When you find one you like ... sign him a 3 year deal on minimum ( I think Sixers did it with Covington and Jerami Grant with great success). Whoever gets cut but has upside, prepare him for our D-League team.
Give Terry responsibility to scout D-Leaguers and give him the head coach job of our D-League team.

4) Play Thon and Vaughn heavy minutes until the end of the season to evaluate and speed up their Development.

5) Keep playing Monroe 20+ min so he can opt out.

6) Try get Messina for the Head Coach job if McHale fails till December.
Hire Itoudis ((CSKA Head Coach) in summer for the assistant coach job.

Sorry for the long post guys, just really frustrated from our last night's game. Pathetic scheme, effort, no normal words can describe the disgrace I felt watching the game. A disgrace for the fans and for the sport of basketball, and it's most on Kidd

pxp920 · Post #213 » by **pxp920** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:12 pm

Kidd is hopeless. I'm having difficulty watching the games, it's really painful

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pack15412 · Post #214 » by **pack15412** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:20 pm

miamiflashfan wrote:Tonight, Tony Snell became only the second player ever to play more than 25 minutes and finish with a 0/0/0/0/0 stat line.

Here's the list of guys with that line sorted by minutes played: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=game&is_playoffs=E&age_min=0&age_max=99&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&c1stat=pts&c1comp=eq&c1val=0&c2stat=trb&c2comp=eq&c2val=0&c3stat=ast&c3comp=eq&c3val=0&c4stat=stl&c4comp=eq&c4val=0&order_by=mp

(As far as I can tell, BBref player game index only lets you query four stats at a time so you'll have to use your brain to remove the guys who recorded a block)

Epke Udoh sighting!

Frank Nova · Post #215 » by **Frank Nova** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:34 pm

our future GM constructed the team that just demolished us. My biggest silver lining takeaway. Giannis was good per usual, I think his fantastic all star showing will carry him through the season with tremendous numbers that luckily won't result in a ton of wins because we have a joke coaching staff and FO.

Still sickened that we are officially post trade deadline and Mike Beasley, Monroe, Terry, Delly, Snell, Telly and especially Henson are all still on the roster. That's 6 players and a Henson that should've all gone to contending teams for whatever small/partial asset we could've retrieved. But no, our quest for no mans land continued due to a lousy 3 game win streak before the break. 2 major reasons we just flat out suck and Giannis honestly deserves better. I support continuity and team chemistry but when you don't have the right personnel for the basketball court and the right leader, how they get along off the court is 100% irrelevant.

Swan Vox · Post #216 » by **Swan Vox** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:36 pm

Thumbs up for everyone!!!

Kidd.

Hammond.

Lasry.

Swan Vox · Post #217 » by **Swan Vox** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:42 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:our future GM constructed the team that just demolished us. My biggest silver lining takeaway. Giannis was good per usual, I think his fantastic all star showing will carry him through the season with tremendous numbers that luckily won't result in a ton of wins because we have a joke coaching staff and FO.

Still sickened that we are officially post trade deadline and Mike Beasley, Monroe, Terry, Delly, Snell, Telly and especially Henson are all still on the roster. That's 6 players and a Henson that should've all gone to contending teams for whatever small/partial asset we could've retrieved. But no, our quest for no mans land continued due to a lousy 3 game win streak before the break. 2 major reasons we just flat out suck and Giannis honestly deserves better. I support continuity and team chemistry but when you don't have the right personnel for the basketball court and the right leader, how they get along off the court is 100% irrelevant.

That 3 game "win streak" before the break was typical sh*t the bed Bucks...

False hope for a dumb franchise.

xTitan · Post #218 » by **xTitan** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:55 pm

weezybaby856 wrote:our future GM constructed the team that just demolished us. My biggest silver lining takeaway. Giannis was good per usual, I think his fantastic all star showing will carry him through the season with tremendous numbers that luckily won't result in a ton of wins because we have a joke coaching staff and FO.

Still sickened that we are officially post trade deadline and Mike Beasley, Monroe, Terry, Delly, Snell, Telly and especially Henson are all still on the roster. That's 6 players and a Henson that should've all gone to contending teams for whatever small/partial asset we could've retrieved. But no, our quest for no mans land continued due to a lousy 3 game win streak before the break. 2 major reasons we just flat out suck and Giannis honestly deserves better. I support continuity and team chemistry but when you don't have the right personnel for the basketball court and the right leader, how they get along off the court is 100% irrelevant.

Um, who wanted any of those you mentioned?

Swan Vox · Post #219 » by **Swan Vox** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:02 pm

I have to say, Utah is a really good team. Well coached with a balanced, talented roster. That's still no excuse for us looking like a d-league team sans Giannis.

We're going to beat a few sh*tty teams on the backs of Giannis & a few hot days from the rest, but overall this team is a mess.

buckboy · Post #220 » by **buckboy** » Sat Feb 25, 2017 3:07 pm

Nowak008 wrote:Great job John Hammond and LED at the deadline for setting us up for a playoff run and setting us up for the future. Great work!

There are actually real, live people that think he deserves to be employed.

And 3 of them own the ****ing team.