Biyombo's pricetag

[Skin]

Raptor fan here. I haven't watched a ton of Orlando games but how's Biz doing? Do you guys think he's overpaid or worth the money?

We we're really bummed to see him go. Love that guy.

OVERPAID BADLY. DEFINITELY NOT WORTH IT.

Rob Hennigan has made a habit of overpaying bench players. Even Fournier is a bench player.

[PennytoShaq]

Raptor fan here. I haven't watched a ton of Orlando games but how's Biz doing? Do you guys think he's overpaid or worth the money?

We we're really bummed to see him go. Love that guy.

I love the guy for where our team is going (smaller, more modern offense). Overpaid to some because they can't seem to acknowledge or understand that everyone got overpaid last summer. His contract is essentially like 10-11 per year in a normal cap situation.

With Vuc, who is underpaid, and our Rookie Zimmerman, our big rotation is quite deep and under 30 Mill. Many teams will pay one C over 20 million and that doesn't include their backups. But hey, that's the big picture and it's easier to stomp your feet and pout here for many.

Pros :

Great energy, leadership qualities
Very active on the glass. Keeps possessions alive
Speeds up our team
Sets huge screens
Alters a lot of shots with his length
Can switch onto any position and guard 1-5.

Cons :

Horrid at offense
Still can improve as a paint defender
Did I mention his offense is awful?

[BadMofoPimp]

It will be an epic season once Magic fans start turning on Bizmark when he makes a ton of mistakes on the court and doesn't perform up to expectations consistently. There will be many "WTF!!!!" moments, lol.

Digging up this old gem to say told you so. BadMofo your prediction came true earlier than i thought. I don't mean to rub it in and kick orlando fans while you are down, but your GM is incompetent, even someone who barely watches basketball (like me) could see how bad this signing was.

Fire that incompetent GM of yours. Start calling your media, higher ups to get rid of that fool. You are welcome.

doesnt matter who the GM is if the FO doesnt stop meddling

So, the front office signed Bizmark

[tiderulz]

Digging up this old gem to say told you so. BadMofo your prediction came true earlier than i thought. I don't mean to rub it in and kick orlando fans while you are down, but your GM is incompetent, even someone who barely watches basketball (like me) could see how bad this signing was.

Fire that incompetent GM of yours. Start calling your media, higher ups to get rid of that fool. You are welcome.

doesnt matter who the GM is if the FO doesnt stop meddling

So, the front office signed Bizmark

yes, that is exactly what i said

there can be no denying that the FO has meddled. how much is open for interpretation

[BadMofoPimp]

doesnt matter who the GM is if the FO doesnt stop meddling

So, the front office signed Bizmark

yes, that is exactly what i said

there can be no denying that the FO has meddled. how much is open for interpretation

Can you provide proof

[tiderulz]

So, the front office signed Bizmark

yes, that is exactly what i said

there can be no denying that the FO has meddled. how much is open for interpretation

Can you provide proof

can you provide proof the FO hasnt? that they didnt push the Skiles hire? push the Harris trade?

[PennytoShaq]

Actually he could. All the statements to the press were that Rob made all those decisions. Regardless if we believe it or not, the onus would be upon you to prove that is false.

[BadMofoPimp]

yes, that is exactly what i said

there can be no denying that the FO has meddled. how much is open for interpretation

Can you provide proof

can you provide proof the FO hasnt? that they didnt push the Skiles hire? push the Harris trade?

Well, GM's sign and make the trades. I Henny didn't have to sign Bizmark.

[tiderulz]

Can you provide proof

can you provide proof the FO hasnt? that they didnt push the Skiles hire? push the Harris trade?

Well, GM's sign and make the trades. I Henny didn't have to sign Bizmark.

so we are at an impass. You dont believe that FO has meddled at all, most of the fan base here disagrees with you

[cedric76]

Raptor fan here. I haven't watched a ton of Orlando games but how's Biz doing? Do you guys think he's overpaid or worth the money?

We we're really bummed to see him go. Love that guy.

Lov3 him too. Glad he is here.

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[rusoopE]

The same is not necessarily true of Ibaka's next contract.

Looking at Serge's bio on his web-site, which is in Spanish, and he lists this:



..

Clearly he's lying because that's a recent picture of Nate Robinson.

Lmao

[fendilim]

I would probably consider Mahimni for what he got to be better than Biyombo at his price. I don"t think the signing was a terrible one for Orlando, though.

Why?

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Well, part of what made Biyombo contract worse is we don't have players like Lowry and Derozan to help make him look good on offense.

Unfortunately the guy that makes him look good on offense in this team may be Mario. Not a knock on EP or anything, but I think Hezonja sets up Biyombo better. and I think that says a lot about... How many times have you seen EP or any other player setup Biyombo like Hezonja does? While Biyombo is such a bad catcher, I think Biyombo has received more Hezonja lob pass than EP or Fournier or other ballhandlers on this team.

[Optimus_Steel]

I would probably consider Mahimni for what he got to be better than Biyombo at his price. I don"t think the signing was a terrible one for Orlando, though.

Why?

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Well, part of what made Biyombo contract worse is we don't have players like Lowry and Derozan to help make him look good on offense.

Unfortunately the guy that makes him look good on offense in this team may be Mario. Not a knock on EP or anything, but I think Hezonja sets up Biyombo better. and I think that says a lot about... How many times have you seen EP or any other player setup Biyombo like Hezonja does? While Biyombo is such a bad catcher, I think Biyombo has received more Hezonja lob pass than EP or Fournier or other ballhandlers on this team.

I have no doubts that if we had a better foundation, ie better scorers, Biz would look more effective. I think he benefits from Ibaka being gone.

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[cbjrdm]

can you provide proof the FO hasnt? that they didnt push the Skiles hire? push the Harris trade?

Well, GM's sign and make the trades. I Henny didn't have to sign Bizmark.

so we are at an impass. You dont believe that FO has meddled at all, most of the fan base here disagrees with you

It doesn't matter who signed Biz, or who pushed for the signing. The Buck stops with the GM/President. If you are the GM, and one of your subordinates pushes you to sign a player who turns out to be ineffective and highly overpaid then you Fire that person. If you don't fire that person then you are essentially endorsing that move.

If my FO comes to me and pushes hard for a signing and tells me how amazing this player is and that player turns out to be bad, someone is getting fired. That is Business 101, someone's gotta take responsibility. If the GM does not hold someone accountable, then you have to hold the GM & President accountable and fire him/them..

Its that simple.

[tiderulz]

Well, GM's sign and make the trades. I Henny didn't have to sign Bizmark.

so we are at an impass. You dont believe that FO has meddled at all, most of the fan base here disagrees with you

It doesn't matter who signed Biz, or who pushed for the signing. The Buck stops with the GM/President. If you are the GM, and one of your subordinates pushes you to sign a player who turns out to be ineffective and highly overpaid then you Fire that person. If you don't fire that person then you are essentially endorsing that move.

If my FO comes to me and pushes hard for a signing and tells me how amazing this player is and that player turns out to be bad, someone is getting fired. That is Business 101, someone's gotta take responsibility. If the GM does not hold someone accountable, then you have to hold the GM & President accountable and fire him/them..

Its that simple.

its a bit different if your boss pushes a move on you and it doesnt work. You cant fire your boss.

[BadMofoPimp]

so we are at an impass. You dont believe that FO has meddled at all, most of the fan base here disagrees with you

It doesn't matter who signed Biz, or who pushed for the signing. The Buck stops with the GM/President. If you are the GM, and one of your subordinates pushes you to sign a player who turns out to be ineffective and highly overpaid then you Fire that person. If you don't fire that person then you are essentially endorsing that move.

If my FO comes to me and pushes hard for a signing and tells me how amazing this player is and that player turns out to be bad, someone is getting fired. That is Business 101, someone's gotta take responsibility. If the GM does not hold someone accountable, then you have to hold the GM & President accountable and fire him/them..

Its that simple.

its a bit different if your boss pushes a move on you and it doesnt work. You cant fire your boss.

So, are you saying Henny didn't push for or want Bizmark?

[tiderulz]

It doesn't matter who signed Biz, or who pushed for the signing. The Buck stops with the GM/President. If you are the GM, and one of your subordinates pushes you to sign a player who turns out to be ineffective and highly overpaid then you Fire that person. If you don't fire that person then you are essentially endorsing that move.

If my FO comes to me and pushes hard for a signing and tells me how amazing this player is and that player turns out to be bad, someone is getting fired. That is Business 101, someone's gotta take responsibility. If the GM does not hold someone accountable, then you have to hold the GM & President accountable and fire him/them..

Its that simple.

its a bit different if your boss pushes a move on you and it doesnt work. You cant fire your boss.

So, are you saying Henny didn't push for or want Bizmark?

I dont know, but my statement was in direct reference to his statement.

If you want to argue, use your own argument.

[MagicFan32]

i like the player but the contract is a joke when you consider we had a similar player in Dedmon and non qualified him. that is the definition of bad managing