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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1881 » by the_process » Sun Feb 26, 2017 4:51 am

Simbiid wrote:For those of you who are pissed off about the way things went down yesterday, this is exactly why BC traded Noel away for peanuts while keeping Okafor. He really wants another top 5 pick and knows he can't rely on the Kings or the Lakers to do it for him.


BC can't rely on his own team to do it, either. Beat WSH and should have beaten NY (thank God they didn't).

And he won't be able to keep Embiid out for the rest of the year, either, unlesss he wants to piss off the franchise and run this thing straight into the ground. So that's more wins. Have to pray the Lakers win some and KANGZ lose 'em all.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1882 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:00 am

lol BC did not trade Noel for peanuts to tank, c'mon man.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1883 » by Embiid P » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:16 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:lol BC did not trade Noel for peanuts to tank, c'mon man.


Then why else would he keep Okafor? Anyone with half a brain knows that Okafor isn't going to fetch much in a trade whether at the deadline or in the offseason. Thus he only serves one purpose.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1884 » by Skates » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:30 am

Simbiid wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:lol BC did not trade Noel for peanuts to tank, c'mon man.


Then why else would he keep Okafor? Anyone with half a brain knows that Okafor isn't going to fetch much in a trade whether at the deadline or in the offseason. Thus he only serves one purpose.


Trading Ersan was more of a tank move than Noel, moving Noel was just really poor overall asset management. The team is thin now at PF and the backcourt is as weak as ever. The Knicks are a bad team with Porzingis, a terrible one without him. We were winning some before and have enough talent to win some more, but we will do fine in a deep draft.

Pellies don't look like much this year, their backcourt is doo-doo and it will take time to fully pair the big guys.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1885 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:36 am

Simbiid wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:lol BC did not trade Noel for peanuts to tank, c'mon man.


Then why else would he keep Okafor? Anyone with half a brain knows that Okafor isn't going to fetch much in a trade whether at the deadline or in the offseason. Thus he only serves one purpose.


He kept Okafor because he's still under contract after this season(unlike Noel) and he wasn't gonna give away a guy he can keep on the team. Not saying I agree with it, but that's logic that isn't tanking.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1886 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Feb 26, 2017 2:11 pm

If PHI and SAC finish 4th/5th (in any order), we would have a 60.9% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 4th/6th (in any order), we would have a 51.4% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 5th/6th (in any order), we would have a 46.1% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 4th/5th (in any order) AND LAL finishes 3rd, we would have a 38% chance of landing a top 3 pick PLUS the LAL pick.

http://www.lotterybucket.com/
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1887 » by the_process » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:18 pm

LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Simbiid wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:lol BC did not trade Noel for peanuts to tank, c'mon man.


Then why else would he keep Okafor? Anyone with half a brain knows that Okafor isn't going to fetch much in a trade whether at the deadline or in the offseason. Thus he only serves one purpose.


He kept Okafor because he's still under contract after this season(unlike Noel) and he wasn't gonna give away a guy he can keep on the team. Not saying I agree with it, but that's logic that isn't tanking.


I see the logic, but the major flaw in it is Noel is good and Okafor is crap. So he keeps the crappy guy... just because he's under contract? Sounds like a Scott O'Neill type decision.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1888 » by TheAntiTrump » Sun Feb 26, 2017 5:43 pm

I'm sorry being new here but, how can you say Okafor is crap ? He has played 1 NBA season. Half of that has been out of position. And with about 30 different players, so how can he learn any chemistry ? Okay I agree defensively he is not great. But, can you honestly say that at 21 Demarcus Cousins was better defensively ?..or even right now ? What about Mozgov ? Or Kanter ? Or Vucevic ? I would take Okafor right now at 21 over any of those players either offensively or defensively. And yet they're all highly paid NBA Centers. So someone out there loves these guys. As much as I like and appreciate good defense...you win NBA games with points. That means offense. And Okafor is the best, purest NBA Center I have ever seen at 19/20 with his offensive Post skills. But one cannot truly enhance his game by playing once every three games can they ? Or playing with what was a different starting Line-up every game like he did in his rookie season. I think depending on how the draft order plays out, we could easily send our pick and Okafor and get into the top-3 of the draft. Maybe even top-2. Please do not dismiss a player who hasn't even grown into his body as of yet, or has been given any ample playing time at his natural position.


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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1889 » by EBrandEra » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:23 pm

sixers238 wrote:If PHI and SAC finish 4th/5th (in any order), we would have a 60.9% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 4th/6th (in any order), we would have a 51.4% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 5th/6th (in any order), we would have a 46.1% chance of landing a top 3 pick.

If PHI and SAC finish 4th/5th (in any order) AND LAL finishes 3rd, we would have a 38% chance of landing a top 3 pick PLUS the LAL pick.

http://www.lotterybucket.com/


Yeah, the most important thing for the Sixers right now is to be in the best position of getting a Top 3 pick. They can't control what the Lakers or Kings are going to do, so they need to tank.

The best outcome for the rest of the year is the Sixers' youth (ie. Saric, Holmes, Cabarrot-Luwawu, Okafor) to get valuable experience and the Sixers lose enough to have the 5th worst record (doubt they can pass Orlando now). Also, hopefully Sacramento ends up with the 6th worst record since they now traded Cousins and cut Barnes.

I'll take a 46% chance to get a top 3 pick.

Then, we just hope Magic Johnson pushes the Lakers to win a few more meaningless games and maybe the Lakers can move from the 3rd to the 4th worst record.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1890 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:32 pm

We need the Kings to go on a nice 8 game losing streak but they never cooperate. They always win games. Stop trying to win please. Just lie down.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1891 » by TheAntiTrump » Sun Feb 26, 2017 6:36 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:We need the Kings to go on a nice 8 game losing streak but they never cooperate. They always win games. Stop trying to win please. Just lie down.




Although I do think in the end Sacramento will finish within the top-10, thereby keeping their pick. But I also truly feel the trade of Cousins was a great trade. It was addition by subtraction. I mean you can just see it in their play since the trade. Also New Orleans have lost both their games since the trade. And besides Holiday...does that team even have a single player who could make our team ? They just might end up in the 6th or 7th spot. Now Sacramento would have two top-10 picks. Not too bad for a team getting rid of a Cancer like Cousins.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1892 » by deep6er » Sun Feb 26, 2017 7:28 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:We need the Kings to go on a nice 8 game losing streak but they never cooperate. They always win games. Stop trying to win please. Just lie down.




Although I do think in the end Sacramento will finish within the top-10, thereby keeping their pick. But I also truly feel the trade of Cousins was a great trade. It was addition by subtraction. I mean you can just see it in their play since the trade. Also New Orleans have lost both their games since the trade. And besides Holiday...does that team even have a single player who could make our team ? They just might end up in the 6th or 7th spot. Now Sacramento would have two top-10 picks. Not too bad for a team getting rid of a Cancer like Cousins.


You must be related to Ranadive or something. Addition by subtraction, getting rid of Cousins? That guy put the Kings on his back so many times and just dragged them to wins they had no business getting. A lot of people don't like Boogie, but what other All-NBA talent is going to say they want to be in Sacramento for the rest of their career. Watch the Kings for the rest of the year. See how well they do without Cousins controlling the paint and bodying dudes for boards. That franchise is a mess top to bottom and they pointed the finger at their best player as the reason why. Look up the way that Vivek asked for Boogie's input on firing Mike Malone after he had already made the decision and then decide who the real cancer in Sac is.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1893 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Feb 26, 2017 8:50 pm

Honestly, I wouldn't have been opposed to trading for Cousins. Would of been a welcome respite from arguing Okafor vs Noel and putting a real superstar next to Embiid.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1894 » by LongLiveHinkie » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:15 am

I know after the Cousins trade was made everyone expected NO to easily overtake the Kings in the standings, but I'm not sure it's gonna happen. They suck. They are really bad.

First time I've seen them in full since the trade and they are trash. They take bad shots, poor ball movement, lack of shooters, turnovers, poorly coached. Don't see them making any noise this year.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1895 » by phifans » Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:44 am

Pels without AD Vs Kangs without Cousins (before the deal) who will win ?
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1896 » by Ericb5 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:36 am

TheAntiTrump wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:We need the Kings to go on a nice 8 game losing streak but they never cooperate. They always win games. Stop trying to win please. Just lie down.




Although I do think in the end Sacramento will finish within the top-10, thereby keeping their pick. But I also truly feel the trade of Cousins was a great trade. It was addition by subtraction. I mean you can just see it in their play since the trade. Also New Orleans have lost both their games since the trade. And besides Holiday...does that team even have a single player who could make our team ? They just might end up in the 6th or 7th spot. Now Sacramento would have two top-10 picks. Not too bad for a team getting rid of a Cancer like Cousins.


Long term, trading Cousins was the right move, but they made themselves worse in the short term.

I expect them to collapse soon.


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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1897 » by sixers23 » Mon Feb 27, 2017 12:49 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:I'm sorry being new here but, how can you say Okafor is crap ? He has played 1 NBA season. Half of that has been out of position. And with about 30 different players, so how can he learn any chemistry ? Okay I agree defensively he is not great. But, can you honestly say that at 21 Demarcus Cousins was better defensively ?..or even right now ? What about Mozgov ? Or Kanter ? Or Vucevic ? I would take Okafor right now at 21 over any of those players either offensively or defensively. And yet they're all highly paid NBA Centers. So someone out there loves these guys. As much as I like and appreciate good defense...you win NBA games with points. That means offense. And Okafor is the best, purest NBA Center I have ever seen at 19/20 with his offensive Post skills. But one cannot truly enhance his game by playing once every three games can they ? Or playing with what was a different starting Line-up every game like he did in his rookie season. I think depending on how the draft order plays out, we could easily send our pick and Okafor and get into the top-3 of the draft. Maybe even top-2. Please do not dismiss a player who hasn't even grown into his body as of yet, or has been given any ample playing time at his natural position.


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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1898 » by eagereyez » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:47 pm

Some important process games today:

Raptors vs Knicks. Knicks are only 1 game worse than the Kings right now.
Heat vs Mavs. Mavs are only 1.5 games behind the Kings.
Timberwolves vs Kings. Wolves are only 2 games behind the Kings. A Wolves win here would be huge.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1899 » by Wilfried » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:53 pm

eagereyez wrote:Some important process games today:

Raptors vs Knicks. Knicks are only 1 game worse than the Kings right now.
Heat vs Mavs. Mavs are only 1.5 games behind the Kings.
Timberwolves vs Kings. Wolves are only 2 games behind the Kings. A Wolves win here would be huge.


Not counting on a Knicks W
Mavs is 50/50 I think.
Timberwolves should win.
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Re: 2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick) 

Post#1900 » by LloydFree » Mon Feb 27, 2017 1:53 pm

TheAntiTrump wrote:I'm sorry being new here but, how can you say Okafor is crap ? He has played 1 NBA season. Half of that has been out of position. And with about 30 different players, so how can he learn any chemistry ? Okay I agree defensively he is not great. But, can you honestly say that at 21 Demarcus Cousins was better defensively ?..or even right now ? What about Mozgov ? Or Kanter ? Or Vucevic ? I would take Okafor right now at 21 over any of those players either offensively or defensively. And yet they're all highly paid NBA Centers. So someone out there loves these guys. As much as I like and appreciate good defense...you win NBA games with points. That means offense. And Okafor is the best, purest NBA Center I have ever seen at 19/20 with his offensive Post skills. But one cannot truly enhance his game by playing once every three games can they ? Or playing with what was a different starting Line-up every game like he did in his rookie season. I think depending on how the draft order plays out, we could easily send our pick and Okafor and get into the top-3 of the draft. Maybe even top-2. Please do not dismiss a player who hasn't even grown into his body as of yet, or has been given any ample playing time at his natural position.


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