False Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA (j/k nothing to see here)
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False Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA (j/k nothing to see here)
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False Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA (j/k nothing to see here)
Aaron McMannVerified account‏@AaronMcMann 12m12 minutes ago
Stan Van Gundy spoke to Brandon Jennings' agent this morning. Apparently he's headed to Charlotte.
Are we dumping both Roberts and Sessions?
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Re: Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA?
My first thought would be Weber would already be gone, we won't know for a couple days though until he passes through waivers.
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2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
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2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
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Re: Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA?
Will be an interesting test of loyalty.
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Re: Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA?
To state what is perhaps the obvious, may this was the reason for the lack of a deadline move. The question is did we know about this possibility when we signed Weber? Probably so IMO, would think we would have talked to his agent and known a buyout was likely and I actually don't think the two are related. Neither Roberts nor Sessions are getting it done, let's let them both go if we have better PG2 and PG3 options.
Then again, Jennings is a career 38.9% FG shooter, and is shooting 38.0% this season. Not clear that this is even an upgrade. He's been in the league since the 2009-10 season and only twice had a FG% at or above 40% - 41.8% in 2011-12 and 40.1% in 2014-15. He also doesn't have a three ball. He can pass though?
Then again, Jennings is a career 38.9% FG shooter, and is shooting 38.0% this season. Not clear that this is even an upgrade. He's been in the league since the 2009-10 season and only twice had a FG% at or above 40% - 41.8% in 2011-12 and 40.1% in 2014-15. He also doesn't have a three ball. He can pass though?
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Jennings is awful and I want him nowhere near this team. He's basically a dumb version of rookie Kemba that never evolved his game and has awful intangibles. He'll have some occasional nice games and might help us win a few, but thats only going to worsen our draft position and we should want no part of him long term, so I don't see the point.
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So you're saying he's actually good, will help us win games, and that's not what you want, so that's why he's awful. Got it.
Who I woulda took:
2023: Miller | 2022: Duren | 2021: Bouknight, Jones | 2020: Ball | 2019: PJ | 2018: MPJ | 2017: Monk | 2016: Damian Jones | 2015: Winslow | 2014: Vonleh, Napier | 2013: McLemore | 2012: MKG | 2011: Knight, Kawhi
2023: Miller | 2022: Duren | 2021: Bouknight, Jones | 2020: Ball | 2019: PJ | 2018: MPJ | 2017: Monk | 2016: Damian Jones | 2015: Winslow | 2014: Vonleh, Napier | 2013: McLemore | 2012: MKG | 2011: Knight, Kawhi
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_tijo_ wrote:So you're saying he's actually good, will help us win games, and that's not what you want, so that's why he's awful. Got it.
No. I'm saying hes awful, but will occasionally have some games where he gets hot and looks good. Most games he will help us lose. I'm saying the occasional games where he gets hot and helps us win aren't worth bringing him in because our playoff hopes are already mostly shot and we'd be stupid to keep him past this year anyways (has no future upside for us). He is also the exact opposite of the kind of character we usually look for in a player. I don't want him anywhere near our team and I don't see any point in bringing him in. We'd be better off just developing Weber.
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yosemiteben wrote:To state what is perhaps the obvious, may this was the reason for the lack of a deadline move. The question is did we know about this possibility when we signed Weber? Probably so IMO, would think we would have talked to his agent and known a buyout was likely and I actually don't think the two are related. Neither Roberts nor Sessions are getting it done, let's let them both go if we have better PG2 and PG3 options.
Fair points, and it's also worth noting that Weber didn't officially sign until after Jennings' release. It's possible they didn't wanna drag Weber out for nothing but I doubt it.
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2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
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2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
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*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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1) I'd rather just stick with the roster at this point and see what we have in Weber, so I am hoping there is nothing to this rumor.
2) If we are going to sign Jennings, I'd rather we cut Sessions to make it happen. Doubtful we pick up his option this summer and he's hurt.
3) Cutting Weber, the same day we signed him would be a massive kick in the ball.
2) If we are going to sign Jennings, I'd rather we cut Sessions to make it happen. Doubtful we pick up his option this summer and he's hurt.
3) Cutting Weber, the same day we signed him would be a massive kick in the ball.
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We're also assuming he clears waivers, there are four teams that could claim his $5M salary and get to the floor while only paying about a quarter of the whole amount.
UTH: $4.2M
MIN: $3.2M
DEN: $2.1M
BKN: $800k
Brooklyn would lose money in doing so, but Utah could save $3M by claiming him, Minnesota $2M, and Denver a little under $1M.
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UTH: $4.2M
MIN: $3.2M
DEN: $2.1M
BKN: $800k
Brooklyn would lose money in doing so, but Utah could save $3M by claiming him, Minnesota $2M, and Denver a little under $1M.
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2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
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2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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Re: Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA?
I personally think we're just cutting the cord on Sessions + Roberts and hoping to get more mileage out of Jennings + Weber, which I think is a more than reasonable move. Could view it as a FA tryout, since we were going to be in the market for a PG next summer anyway.
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This is the description in a highlight video of his that Down to Buck put up, feels oddly appropriate:
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Lol jennings is awful but so is roberts. Not sure how this affects our tank but it definitely doesnt change our 0% playoff chances
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Re: Rumor - Brandon Jennings to CHA?
Hold yer horses:
David AldridgeVerified account‏@daldridgetnt 5m5 minutes ago
Hearing from several places that Brandon Jennings not a lock to go 2 Charlotte; Wizards among teams still working. (All due respect to SVG.)
David AldridgeVerified account‏@daldridgetnt 5m5 minutes ago
Hearing from several places that Brandon Jennings not a lock to go 2 Charlotte; Wizards among teams still working. (All due respect to SVG.)
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I'd be happy with Jennings if we got the version who played amazing defense vs Sessions earlier this seasons, to the point where Ramon could barely get the ball over halfcourt.
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Blackout, what is the most we could offer Jennings on a two year deal? Is the room exception open? If that was possible, we'd solve our backup PG problems for next year and could focus draft and MLE on improving a different part of the team (or taking a flyer on a PG with upside that might need to sit for a year).
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fatlever wrote:(or taking a flyer on a PG with upside that might need to sit for a year).

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Jennings is good enough. Didn't you guys watch him against us this season? He's just what we need.
What a weird turn of events. Still think we should tank though. I really don't want to make the playoffs just to get crushed in the first round again.
What a weird turn of events. Still think we should tank though. I really don't want to make the playoffs just to get crushed in the first round again.
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fatlever wrote:Blackout, what is the most we could offer Jennings on a two year deal? Is the room exception open? If that was possible, we'd solve our backup PG problems for next year and could focus draft and MLE on improving a different part of the team (or taking a flyer on a PG with upside that might need to sit for a year).
Room exception is correct, however it's deceased in value. Off-hand estimate would be about $1.6M of it left.
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2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
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Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
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@ESPNSteinLine
Hearing that the Hornets, despite Stan Van Gundy's prediction, are happy with the Briante Weber move and unlikely to pursue Brandon Jennings
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Hornets Picks by Year
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed
2021: Bouknight, Jones, Thor, Lewis
Protection on future 1st* (to NYK); 2nds
2022: 1-18; CHA (31-55), TOR 2 (55-60)
2023: 1-16; BOS (GH)
2024: 1-14; BOS (GH)
2025: 1-14; CHA (31-55)
*Becomes two 2nds if unconveyed