Is SVG realizing KCP is our best option??

[In SVG We Trust]

Again, you only can win nowadays with a good defensive C. Every offensive mind oriented big man is struggling to translate his game into wins. That's the game right now, and we're playing an old and inefficient basketball.

That's the original post Matt.

If you wanna jump in, hitch your wagon to this guy go hard mate

I stated it's incorrect, named 5 bigs to boot

Throw in the fact he's been trying to flame me for months...


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I don't know

Why you can't

Understand basketball

But it's pretty clear

You're almost always wrong

And you never get tired

To lose arguing

With every guy here

[hadzi dogg]

Again, you only can win nowadays with a good defensive C. Every offensive mind oriented big man is struggling to translate his game into wins. That's the game right now, and we're playing an old and inefficient basketball.

That's the original post Matt.

If you wanna jump in, hitch your wagon to this guy go hard mate

I stated it's incorrect, named 5 bigs to boot

Throw in the fact he's been trying to flame me for months...


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Horford and Millsap isn't a good argument because they are both plus defensive players. Blake Griffin is an elite offensive talent and he isn't the Center, Deandre Jordan is and he is a defensive player of the year candidate.

You're argument is pretty dumb honestly. He is saying offensive oriented big man as: If your center is a plus on offense but a minus on defense it is tough to win. Your argument to that is naming a bunch of big men that have offensive skill on teams with great defensive bigs.

Obviously if your big man has offensive skills your team can do good but there needs to be an emphasis on the defensive end from that position.

[Pharaoh]

Again, you only can win nowadays with a good defensive C. Every offensive mind oriented big man is struggling to translate his game into wins. That's the game right now, and we're playing an old and inefficient basketball.

That's the original post Matt.

If you wanna jump in, hitch your wagon to this guy go hard mate

I stated it's incorrect, named 5 bigs to boot

Throw in the fact he's been trying to flame me for months...


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Horford and Millsap isn't a good argument because they are both plus defensive players. Blake Griffin is an elite offensive talent and he isn't the Center, Deandre Jordan is and he is a defensive player of the year candidate.

You're argument is pretty dumb honestly. [b]He is saying offensive oriented big man as: If your center is a plus on offense but a minus on defense it is tough to win. [b]Your argument to that is naming a bunch of big men that have offensive skill on teams with great defensive bigs.

Obviously if your big man has offensive skills your team can do good but there needs to be an emphasis on the defensive end from that position.

To the bold - that's not what he said
Maybe he should have worded his post differently?

JV is not a defensive C - he's vital to the Raps winning games

LMA is not a defensive C - he's vital to SA winning games

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[Pharaoh]

Again, you only can win nowadays with a good defensive C. Every offensive mind oriented big man is struggling to translate his game into wins. That's the game right now, and we're playing an old and inefficient basketball.

That's the original post Matt.

If you wanna jump in, hitch your wagon to this guy go hard mate

I stated it's incorrect, named 5 bigs to boot

Throw in the fact he's been trying to flame me for months...


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I don't know

Why you can't

Understand basketball

But it's pretty clear

You're almost always wrong

And you never get tired

To lose arguing

With every guy here

Yeah man just like that time when I said Rubio was what we needed and a lot of people said "No way!"

Fast forward 2 weeks and now it's like "yeah man Rubio is like Ish but a little better so it makes perfect sense"

I've seen, played in and coached more games than you've had hot dinners my man!

I've been posting online about basketball for 15 years - I've been wrong many times and don't mind admitting it...unlike some!

When you make blanket statements that are obviously incorrect you should be called on them.

If you meant your big man has to be a defensive C then you should have said that - although that's incorrect too cause JV & LMA prove that.

Fact is the C position is a dying spot - not because there are no defensive Cs or good offensive Cs though

The traditional C is a dead weight because very few can read the floor and make plays!

The stretch 4 is becoming the playmaking 4 & you're seeing it happen at the 5 as well - NBA defenses are too good and coaches have learnt that having playmakers at as many positions as possible is the way to go.

Kinda a European thing so one would think you'd get that better than most

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[BadMofoPimp]

KCP is still wildly inconsistent though.

Its easy to forget but for every game like last night there's at least one where he's an absolute brick layer. Hoping he gets more consistent soon.

Reminds me of Westbrook/Harden about 4 years ago. They were exactly like that.

[Blkbrd671]

KCP is still wildly inconsistent though.

Its easy to forget but for every game like last night there's at least one where he's an absolute brick layer. Hoping he gets more consistent soon.

Reminds me of Westbrook/Harden about 4 years ago. They were exactly like that.

i believe stats indicate that the more usage KCP gets, the better player he becomes in terms of filling up the stat sheet. Unforunately i believe his defensive stats suffer though. Finding balance obviously is part of development

[sc8581]

KCP is still wildly inconsistent though.

Its easy to forget but for every game like last night there's at least one where he's an absolute brick layer. Hoping he gets more consistent soon.

Reminds me of Westbrook/Harden about 4 years ago. They were exactly like that.

i believe stats indicate that the more usage KCP gets, the better player he becomes in terms of filling up the stat sheet. Unforunately i believe his defensive stats suffer though. Finding balance obviously is part of development

His defensive stats also suffer from having to defend the opposing teams best perimeter scorer and not having a rim protector behind him. So basically Reggie and Dre hurt him on both ends.

[In SVG We Trust]

KCP defensive stats being in Utah would be impressive.

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[El Chivo]

KCP and Harris should share at least 30 shots per night

[duncansmithnba]

KCP and Harris should share at least 30 shots per night

Basically, this.

[DBC10]

The bulk of the offense should run primarily through Tobias and KCP with Ish being the guy that sets these guys up and facilitate.

Which I agree with.

[vic]

Which is why he does better without RJ. RJ is the new Josh Smith. Ego inflated athleticism dependent chucker addition by subtraction.

[Snakebites]

So yeah.

Last night's game is a pretty good illustration of why KCP really can't be our "best option", not if we're going to be any good.

Games like this aren't a majority, but they're frequent enough that he really can't be our best scorer.

I'm definitely open to seeing how things go with him as a bigger part of the offense (we frankly don't have much to lose in that regard), but yeah, if he's our best option, we're in trouble.

[Billl]

Not often? He's missed double digits 16 times this season already. I like him as a second or 3rd option, but he's streaky. If his outside shot isn't falling, he doesn't really have anything else where can consistently get points. His handle is much improved, but he's not one of those guys that has a natural feel for taking it in the lane and forcing the action.

[ComboGuardCity]

Stan is giving KCP too many minutes. He needs to scale back or he's gonna burn him out.

[need4detroit]

Stan is giving KCP too many minutes. He needs to scale back or he's gonna burn him out.

Too many minutes with Reggie Jakcson will turn any shooting guard insane.

[Pharaoh]

I wonder how many of those poor offensive games are a result of not getting the ball in good positions early to get him going?

It's not as simple as "he had a poor game offensively & shot like crap"

You gotta look at the quality of shots he's getting in the offense, especially at the beginning of games

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