Cap Space this offseason

[Magic_Johnny12]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

[melasdas]

Biyombo may be the worst signing in Magic history.

Worse than Grant Hill?

Grant Hill was one of the most talented players by the time he was singning with us. Finally it was a risky move and obviously it was not worth the money we paid for him but at least he was very good.

Biyombo is not worth the money, and he is not good. It is a worse situation because despite of he is healthy he will never worth the money.

[melasdas]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Really? Tell me one team that that could take Biz's contract. I think that we might need to add value from another assets if we want to move him.

[BadMofoPimp]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Really? Tell me one team that that could take Biz's contract. I think that we might need to add value from another assets if we want to move him.

Nets?

I know the Nets were keen on signing Fournier this past offseason. Maybe a package deal involving a 3rd team.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Really? Tell me one team that that could take Biz's contract. I think that we might need to add value from another assets if we want to move him.

Makeups of teams change every season so this list could change as well. Teams know what they're getting from him and know what they can get when a team utilizes him properly as seen in Toronto. Still fairly young, mobile defensive big that's locked up.

Boston
Brooklyn
Detroit (Dependent on Drummonds situation)
Minny
Mil
Indiana

[tiderulz]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

i dont agree. Just like i dont believe that Deng/Mosgov/Noah will be easy to move. Turner at least plays, and Crabbe has some promise of upside. But Deng/Mosgov/Noah wont be easy to move at all. Similar to Biz

[npiper17]

Unless AG and Payton are traded for expirings then this will be the last summer of cap space with the roster constructed as is. So it's well worth spending some of it before we lose it.

I'd look at Patty Mills as a locker room leader / well paid sixth man.

we got full team of 6th man already

They're not as effective as Patty is.

[npiper17]

Biyombo working hard to justify contract according to one writer:

https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/magic/rosen-bismack-biyombo-working-justify-contract/

[Magic_Johnny12]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

i dont agree. Just like i dont believe that Deng/Mosgov/Noah will be easy to move. Turner at least plays, and Crabbe has some promise of upside. But Deng/Mosgov/Noah wont be easy to move at all. Similar to Biz

Turner in fact does not "at least play" and is still out from a fractured hand and has already missed 6 weeks and prior to that was playing horribly.

What team in their right mind will pay Crabbe over 20m a season that isn't the Nets for "some promise of upside"? Keep in mind he has a nice trade kicker

[Catledge]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

i dont agree. Just like i dont believe that Deng/Mosgov/Noah will be easy to move. Turner at least plays, and Crabbe has some promise of upside. But Deng/Mosgov/Noah wont be easy to move at all. Similar to Biz

I think both of these posts amount to overstatements.

I agree that Biz isn't "easily moved," but I don't think he is "similar" to Deng, Mozgov, and Noah. If, say, Cleveland lost Thompson to injury in January of 2018, it seems clear that a team in that position would take Biz as a replacement over Mozgov or Noah. Same if Boston needs to replace an injured Horford, or if GSW decides that they need a better shot blocker than Pachulia.

If there is one thing that last summer and my entire life of watching the NBA has revealed, it's that teams will reach to fill a big man void if they think that's the biggest hole in their team.

[Furinkazan]

Biyombo working hard to justify contract according to one writer:

https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/magic/rosen-bismack-biyombo-working-justify-contract/

key word is ONE?
RH said Biyombo is movable somwhow I beg to differ.Knowing all the sneaky Gms out there most of them would try to get a pick from us for taking that contract.

[tiderulz]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

i dont agree. Just like i dont believe that Deng/Mosgov/Noah will be easy to move. Turner at least plays, and Crabbe has some promise of upside. But Deng/Mosgov/Noah wont be easy to move at all. Similar to Biz

Turner in fact does not "at least play" and is still out from a fractured hand and has already missed 6 weeks and prior to that was playing horribly.

What team in their right mind will pay Crabbe over 20m a season that isn't the Nets for "some promise of upside"? Keep in mind he has a nice trade kicker

he was playing and producing, even if not greatly efficiently or playing defense.

[npiper17]

Biyombo working hard to justify contract according to one writer:

https://www.fanragsports.com/nba/magic/rosen-bismack-biyombo-working-justify-contract/

key word is ONE?
RH said Biyombo is movable somwhow I beg to differ.Knowing all the sneaky Gms out there most of them would try to get a pick from us for taking that contract.

I think he's very moveable but the key for me is that I don't want to move him. I think he can improve to the point that he's a solid starting center should we need him if there a Vuc trade. And as I've said elsewhere paying Vuc / Biyombo $29m combined for decent play at the center position is not bad under the new salary cap.

[drsd]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Biyambo is under a deal that will be standard for a backup C. If Biyambo is who he has been, he is completely tradeable. If the wheels come off, then he is a G. Hill contract. But for now, I like his deal.


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[Magic_Johnny12]

i dont agree. Just like i dont believe that Deng/Mosgov/Noah will be easy to move. Turner at least plays, and Crabbe has some promise of upside. But Deng/Mosgov/Noah wont be easy to move at all. Similar to Biz

Turner in fact does not "at least play" and is still out from a fractured hand and has already missed 6 weeks and prior to that was playing horribly.

What team in their right mind will pay Crabbe over 20m a season that isn't the Nets for "some promise of upside"? Keep in mind he has a nice trade kicker

he was playing and producing, even if not greatly efficiently or playing defense.

And you talk about Biyombo like he hasn't been playing and is chronically always injured.

While you have teams like the Lakers and Hornets giving DNPs to Mosgoz and Plumlee even when they're perfectly healthy.

Again, I truly don't think his value is as exaggerated as some of yah make it out to be. Not saying he will return any substantial asset back, but he definitely doesn't have negative value compared to the other players signed this past off season.

[Xatticus]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Biyambo is under a deal that will be standard for a backup C. If Biyambo is who he has been, he is completely tradeable. If the wheels come off, then he is a G. Hill contract. But for now, I like his deal.


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He received over 18 percent of the team's cap when the deal was signed. 17 million a year won't be standard for a backup center for at least another nine years (when the current TV deals expire). The recent spike in the salary cap isn't going to happen again until at least then. Most teams have backup centers on rookie deals. Regardless of one's opinion of Biyombo, there are many far better ways to spend that money.

[tiderulz]

Turner in fact does not "at least play" and is still out from a fractured hand and has already missed 6 weeks and prior to that was playing horribly.

What team in their right mind will pay Crabbe over 20m a season that isn't the Nets for "some promise of upside"? Keep in mind he has a nice trade kicker

he was playing and producing, even if not greatly efficiently or playing defense.

And you talk about Biyombo like he hasn't been playing and is chronically always injured.

While you have teams like the Lakers and Hornets giving DNPs to Mosgoz and Plumlee even when they're perfectly healthy.

Again, I truly don't think his value is as exaggerated as some of yah make it out to be. Not saying he will return any substantial asset back, but he definitely doesn't have negative value compared to the other players signed this past off season.

Biz is a bench big paid like a starting caliber, 2-way center.

[tiderulz]

Biyombo could be easily moved if need be, he's no where near in tearms of un-moveable contracts like Deng/Mosgov/Crabbe/Turner/Noah.

Biyambo is under a deal that will be standard for a backup C. If Biyambo is who he has been, he is completely tradeable. If the wheels come off, then he is a G. Hill contract. But for now, I like his deal.


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if $17mil/yr is backup center money, than the cap must be about ready to double