2017 Pick Watch (Sac Swap Rights, LAL pick)

[phifans]

Nurkic was a franchise-saving acquisition for Portland. What an idiotic trade for Denver.

I didn't understand it then, and I still don't understand it. How a team can look at Plumlee and think that he's worth Nurkic (a better player than Plumlee) AND a first rounder is beyond me.

Mason is an impending RFA, as well. And yet, Olshey got a good return while BC... well, not so much.

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

[Unbreakable99]

The Pelicans may pass us. We need Sacramento to lose out because we may end up 8th or so.

[kriss73]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

[Worm122]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

I'm really depressed, i want the Lakers pick for justice, this pieco of schit tanked for 3 years and we dont hear any complaines about it, f**k this media

[kriss73]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

I'm really depressed, i want the Lakers pick for justice, this pieco of schit tanked for 3 years and we dont hear any complaines about it, f**k this media

Yeah, they're quitely outanked us in the same timeframe and nobody said anything harsh.
It's a shame.

[Princeinrevolt]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

I'm really depressed, i want the Lakers pick for justice, this pieco of schit tanked for 3 years and we dont hear any complaines about it, f**k this media

Yeah, they're quitely outanked us in the same timeframe and nobody said anything harsh.
It's a shame.

[sixers hoops]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

I'm really depressed, i want the Lakers pick for justice, this pieco of schit tanked for 3 years and we dont hear any complaines about it, f**k this media

Yeah, they're quitely outanked us in the same timeframe and nobody said anything harsh.
It's a shame.

I think their GM really wanted to win. Signing vets like Deng and Mozgov to big contracts and firing Byron Scott are not moves intended to lose games...it's just incompetence. Trading Lou Williams was a tank move.

[shawn_hemp]

whats the criteria for getting away with a tank?

Sign a couple of crappy deals and hire Magic Johnson as president?

God I hate the Lakers

I hope their pick doesn't convey this year and they get all hyped up to "turn the corner" next year and wind up being the worst team in the league again as we go to the playoffs

Don't worry LA... I'll wait

[Kobblehead]

Blame Okafor's meltdown in Boston for Hinkie getting pushed out. That incident suggested a lack of institutional control that forced Silver to think he needed to step in.

[the_process]

I didn't understand it then, and I still don't understand it. How a team can look at Plumlee and think that he's worth Nurkic (a better player than Plumlee) AND a first rounder is beyond me.

Mason is an impending RFA, as well. And yet, Olshey got a good return while BC... well, not so much.

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

[ProcessDoctor]

The most realistic best-case scenario for LAL is that they finish 3rd. We are 4.5 games behind them, so I can't imagine we are catching them. If they finish 3rd, it gives us a 53.1% chance of getting their pick. I would happily take those odds considering how hard they are tanking.

As for our pick, it seems like we will hover around 4-6. Orlando and New Orleans really need to start winning for us to lock up the #4 spot, and for Sacramento to potentially pass one or both of them. Us/SAC at 4th/5th is the best-case scenario here. I just want to fast-forward to lottery night already!

[LongLiveHinkie]

Looking at the schedule, we're going to win 6-8 games at least from now ti the end of the season.
The 30 W mark is not far away.
Without Simmons and with half of Embiid.
Either way, I'm really impressed.

I'd be quite shocked if we win 6-8 games out of 21. That's almost 40% of the remaining games.

Btw... random prediction. I predict the Nets win more games the rest of the way than the Lakers. The Lakers are playing putrid basketball right now. They could very well lose out.

[HotelVitale]

Blame Okafor's meltdown in Boston for Hinkie getting pushed out. That incident suggested a lack of institutional control that forced Silver to think he needed to step in.

It was also total nonsense. Teenager gets drunk, takes drunken swing at guy that taunts him isn't a franchise-changing event. There wasn't really anything the FO could do about that, either --many if not most players go out and party very frequently, and players frequently get into scuffles too. Combo of good iphone footage and new/interesting rookie made that a huge deal.

Btw... random prediction. I predict the Nets win more games the rest of the way than the Lakers. The Lakers are playing putrid basketball right now. They could very well lose out.

Lou Will was totally carrying LAL, guy was a monster on offense this season. I'm expecting them to lose by an average of 9-10 pts for the rest of the season, and would bet heavily on them not winning more than 3-4 games.

[phifans]

Mason is an impending RFA, as well. And yet, Olshey got a good return while BC... well, not so much.

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

Noel is a pending rfa and Nurkic still have one and half year rookie contract left so theres no leverage on BC's hands if thats what you mean and yeah Denver did pay a first to send Nurkic out (for a worse player) but the problem is Noel and his agency team only want to go somewhere he can start and be a long term core piece and Denver is not on his list as far as Im concerned.

[the_process]

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

Noel is a pending rfa and Nurkic still have one and half year rookie contract left so theres no leverage on BC's hands if thats what you mean and yeah Denver did pay a first to send Nurkic out (for a worse player) but the problem is Noel and his agency team only want to go somewhere he can start and be a long term core piece and Denver is not on his list as far as Im concerned.

But it's not about Noel's "list". He is an RFA. So Denver dumps the upset Nurkic and a 1st for Noel and a 2nd, then even if Dallas or Brooklyn or whoever throws a max offer sheet Denver still can match it and keep him. So what Noel wants has practically no bearing on the situation honestly.

[phifans]

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

Noel is a pending rfa and Nurkic still have one and half year rookie contract left so theres no leverage on BC's hands if thats what you mean and yeah Denver did pay a first to send Nurkic out (for a worse player) but the problem is Noel and his agency team only want to go somewhere he can start and be a long term core piece and Denver is not on his list as far as Im concerned.

But it's not about Noel's "list". He is an RFA. So Denver dumps the upset Nurkic and a 1st for Noel and a 2nd, then even if Dallas or Brooklyn or whoever throws a max offer sheet Denver still can match it and keep him. So what Noel wants has practically no bearing on the situation honestly.

Nah BC just do Noel a big favor by trading him to a place he wants to be for long term. I can see trading him to Denver for that package makes sense for us but its definately not the intersts of Noel. If there's really a talk around maybe Denver realize Noel won't be happy stay in Denver to backup Jokic and they may not be willing to max him either just like us. So they chose Plumlee who can be a solid long term backup center for them and will cost less than Noel.

[shawn_hemp]

Noel wanted to start and Denver is hitching their wagon so to speak to Jokic for now and I can't say that's the worst idea in the world

Noel might play in the league longer than Embiid and Okafor combined tbh, but if we can have Embiid in his prime, you have to take that chance.

I'll still be a fan of Nerlens, and I think he will get cheers when the Mavs come to Philly.

Idk about like highlight videos or anything, but maybe an especially hype announcer introduction

[theo42]

Mason is an impending RFA, as well. And yet, Olshey got a good return while BC... well, not so much.

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

As BC stated...We would have been over a Barrell and everyone knows we had to trade him. Would a single 2nd and a less young player have made you happy?

[the_process]

Or thinking it other way Denver paid a first to dump a guy who wants out while BC at least got something for a guy who will leave after three months.

Except Noel was an RFA, so even if he wanted to leave he would have to have his agent work out some kind of S&T.

If Denver paid the first to dump Nurkic, then why didn't BC trade Noel (or Okafor for that matter) for that package?

As BC stated...We would have been over a Barrell and everyone knows we had to trade him. Would a single 2nd and a less young player have made you happy?

The premise of "being over a barrel" is false. I don't know how many times it has to be said.

[spikeslovechild]

Here's the problem with that logic Plumlee is also a RFA. Honestly and I said at the time part of problem was we were so focused on moving Okafor that we weren't shopping Ersan and Noel properly.

If we got Nurkic and a 1st for Noel I would have been more then happy.