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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2801 » by Smash3 » Thu Mar 2, 2017 7:25 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:
El Poochio wrote::lol:

This is a joke right?

Like NBA is not enough even the BAT is rigged in favour of LeBron James. 3/4 of the supposed best teams are trash, if this was real life Warriors wouldnt even make the playoffs, Nuggets Hornets would have been first round exits at best. Easiest walk to a title for LeBron since 2012..

Congratulations to Deeez Knicks! Built my team to beat yours didnt even sniff the playoffs :D


Agreed for the most part...

Everyone says how this was the most competitive BAT yet, I heavily disagree. It was only competitive because there was no standout team. The West was trash thru and thru and the East didn't do enough with all that top tier talent.

This is one of the more poorly constructed LeBron-led rosters. The Magic didn't have enough firepower offensively to get passed a tough matchup for Westbrook. The Hornets are built on two "star" players who could never get over the hump, the Wiz failed to make proper use of all their acquired depth around Kawhi, etc.

I was excited to judge this competition, but everything put in front of me was uninspiring to say the least.


You put in a lot of work Swiss, can I see my ranking and playoff results?
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2802 » by magnumt » Thu Mar 2, 2017 7:28 pm

El Poochio wrote::lol:

This is a joke right?

Like NBA is not enough even the BAT is rigged in favour of LeBron James. 3/4 of the supposed best teams are trash, if this was real life Warriors wouldnt even make the playoffs, Nuggets Hornets would have been first round exits at best. Easiest walk to a title for LeBron since 2012..

Congratulations to Deeez Knicks! Built my team to beat yours didnt even sniff the playoffs :D


Because it's trash. BOTH the Sim AND judges saw that.

Fuqn sore loser much much?! :roll:

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Post#2803 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Mar 2, 2017 7:45 pm

Smash3 wrote:IMO this is the strongest 3 teams we've had in a while; not counting Bron though, he always makes the finals.


To be fair, just like in real life...so seems pretty accurate :)
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2804 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:00 pm

magnumt wrote:
El Poochio wrote::lol:

This is a joke right?

Like NBA is not enough even the BAT is rigged in favour of LeBron James. 3/4 of the supposed best teams are trash, if this was real life Warriors wouldnt even make the playoffs, Nuggets Hornets would have been first round exits at best. Easiest walk to a title for LeBron since 2012..

Congratulations to Deeez Knicks! Built my team to beat yours didnt even sniff the playoffs :D


Because it's trash. BOTH the Sim AND judges saw that.

Fuqn sore loser much much?! :roll:

--Mags :nonono:


Lol sim

Yours is uber trash then cuz mine is clearly better
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2805 » by magnumt » Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:08 pm

El Poochio wrote:
magnumt wrote:
El Poochio wrote::lol:

This is a joke right?

Like NBA is not enough even the BAT is rigged in favour of LeBron James. 3/4 of the supposed best teams are trash, if this was real life Warriors wouldnt even make the playoffs, Nuggets Hornets would have been first round exits at best. Easiest walk to a title for LeBron since 2012..

Congratulations to Deeez Knicks! Built my team to beat yours didnt even sniff the playoffs :D


Because it's trash. BOTH the Sim AND judges saw that.

Fuqn sore loser much much?! :roll:

--Mags :nonono:


Lol sim

Yours is uber trash then cuz mine is clearly better


:lol: Keep smoking that bad peyote then bruh. :roll:

You been a bitter little drunk ever since your "GLORIOUS" team hit the Lotto, jumping in and out of the Thread taking potshots at tons of teams just because your 1-man Butler show couldn't cut it.

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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2806 » by El Poochio » Thu Mar 2, 2017 8:22 pm

magnumt wrote:
El Poochio wrote:
magnumt wrote:
Because it's trash. BOTH the Sim AND judges saw that.

Fuqn sore loser much much?! :roll:

--Mags :nonono:


Lol sim

Yours is uber trash then cuz mine is clearly better


:lol: Keep smoking that bad peyote then bruh. :roll:

You been a bitter little drunk ever since your "GLORIOUS" team hit the Lotto, jumping in and out of the Thread taking potshots at tons of teams just because your 1-man Butler show couldn't cut it.

--Mags :lol: :beer:


Dont be jelly of my peyotes cuz Noah finished all of yours

What tons of teams? I am not jumping anywhere I live here
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Post#2807 » by br7knicks » Thu Mar 2, 2017 11:06 pm

Smash3 wrote:
JustCame wrote:
Smash3 wrote:IMO this is the strongest 3 teams we've had in a while; not counting Bron though, he always makes the finals.


TBH I'm surprised how I didn't finish above the Hornets in the regular season standings. They're basically a watered down version of the current Clippers, and I basically have the real life Celtics + Dray. But that's just my opinion. Nonetheless, congrats to the top 4! You all have excellent teams.


It was probably close.. I think Dallas, Nuggets, Warriors, Hornets and Pacers were roughly on the same level.


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Post#2808 » by Manhattan Project » Thu Mar 2, 2017 11:42 pm

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Post#2809 » by swisscheeseD » Fri Mar 3, 2017 1:00 am

Smash3 wrote:You put in a lot of work Swiss, can I see my ranking and playoff results?


Regular Season ranking and breakdown...

7. Dallas Mavericks – In true Smash fashion, these Mavericks are highlighted by his 2-star strategy (this time, with at least some semblance of a bench). Lowry/PG13 is one of the better 1-2’s in the game, both two-way beasts and complement each other quite well. I love PG13’s ability to create with the ball and how Lowry can also excel off it. The problem I have is with how much depth you had to give up each time you traded up for George, then Lowry and again for Noel. I understand the value of getting the guy you wanted, but it really took a toll on your roster, especially compounding that issue with the JR Smith selection (who has had a terrible start to the season and is now practically out til the end of it). However, even with the lack of quality depth, you did manage to pick up Championship experienced veteran talent that can still contribute in their bench roles and underrated players who can certainly fill some roles. I just find this roster, with all its holes, struggling with some ups and downs during the regular season. The biggest x-factor here is Noel, if he can remain healthy and if his basketball iq can catch up to his physical talents.


And to be honest, I didn't get around to breaking down both of your playoff matchups. I've been swamped with work and travel and I'm away again this weekend.

Your 1st Round match-up against the Kings was a tough decision that ultimately came down to having the 2 best shot creators/takers/makers of the series. I loved his professional, all-business and no ego core; Millsap would have abused Sabonis and exploited Noel's physical weakness, and that Conley/Lowry matchup was must see tv...I had it go 7 and due to my rankings, I actually had you win Game 7 on the road. I just really hated your frontcourt and it came back to bite you in the 2nd Round.

Favors, even at 70% would beast on Sabonis and Vuc/CZeller add tremendous depth, giving Denver a hefty advantage in that department. While Lowry is one of the better perimeter defenders in the game, he still has the daunting task of facing quite possibly the greatest shooter of all-time. His unlimited range and handle extends the floor and gives him space to operate, keeping Lowry on his toes and needing to cover the distance. I really liked MP's selection of Evan Turner, while he's hated for his contract and is a poor fit in Portland, he's still a solid overall 2way player that can play an "Iggy-like" role in this offense. He's great insurance for Parsons, who has been abysmal to say the least, but still has 2+ months to round into form come playoff time. I has to assume injury risk, but also potential progression.

Again, I'm not over the moon with any of these remaining teams, but felt Steph was the best player in the series, coupled with Lowry's struggles in the playoffs, and a favorable matchup in the frontcourt, gave the Nuggies the advantage.
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Re: Build a Team 17.0 Discussion Thread #3 (Conference Finals will be announced Wednesday 7PM) 

Post#2810 » by Smash3 » Fri Mar 3, 2017 1:12 am

swisscheeseD wrote:
Smash3 wrote:You put in a lot of work Swiss, can I see my ranking and playoff results?


Regular Season ranking and breakdown...

7. Dallas Mavericks – In true Smash fashion, these Mavericks are highlighted by his 2-star strategy (this time, with at least some semblance of a bench). Lowry/PG13 is one of the better 1-2’s in the game, both two-way beasts and complement each other quite well. I love PG13’s ability to create with the ball and how Lowry can also excel off it. The problem I have is with how much depth you had to give up each time you traded up for George, then Lowry and again for Noel. I understand the value of getting the guy you wanted, but it really took a toll on your roster, especially compounding that issue with the JR Smith selection (who has had a terrible start to the season and is now practically out til the end of it). However, even with the lack of quality depth, you did manage to pick up Championship experienced veteran talent that can still contribute in their bench roles and underrated players who can certainly fill some roles. I just find this roster, with all its holes, struggling with some ups and downs during the regular season. The biggest x-factor here is Noel, if he can remain healthy and if his basketball iq can catch up to his physical talents.


And to be honest, I didn't get around to breaking down both of your playoff matchups. I've been swamped with work and travel and I'm away again this weekend.

Your 1st Round match-up against the Kings was a tough decision that ultimately came down to having the 2 best shot creators/takers/makers of the series. I loved his professional, all-business and no ego core; Millsap would have abused Sabonis and exploited Noel's physical weakness, and that Conley/Lowry matchup was must see tv...I had it go 7 and due to my rankings, I actually had you win Game 7 on the road. I just really hated your frontcourt and it came back to bite you in the 2nd Round.

Favors, even at 70% would beast on Sabonis and Vuc/CZeller add tremendous depth, giving Denver a hefty advantage in that department. While Lowry is one of the better perimeter defenders in the game, he still has the daunting task of facing quite possibly the greatest shooter of all-time. His unlimited range and handle extends the floor and gives him space to operate, keeping Lowry on his toes and needing to cover the distance. I really liked MP's selection of Evan Turner, while he's hated for his contract and is a poor fit in Portland, he's still a solid overall 2way player that can play an "Iggy-like" role in this offense. He's great insurance for Parsons, who has been abysmal to say the least, but still has 2+ months to round into form come playoff time. I has to assume injury risk, but also potential progression.

Again, I'm not over the moon with any of these remaining teams, but felt Steph was the best player in the series, coupled with Lowry's struggles in the playoffs, and a favorable matchup in the frontcourt, gave the Nuggies the advantage.


:rofl: Stay salty Swiss, you sprinkled in some truths there though. No way I was 7th seed, in comparison Ibra had me as the first seed. No need to reply with more long winded nonsense.
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Post#2811 » by swisscheeseD » Fri Mar 3, 2017 1:45 am

Has nothing to do with salt, I understand everyone's attachment to their own roster, but you guys really need to look in the mirror and give yourselves an honest assessment.

You would have been ranked higher in the regular season if JR Smith was available to you. Not only was your frontcourt weak/inexperienced, you were essentially starting Ian Clark for 80% of the season with Barea hurt for half of it and an aging Manu.

Hence why I said you will struggle with some of the ups and downs of a regular season, but that your team was too talented to not make the playoffs
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Post#2812 » by Mecca » Fri Mar 3, 2017 3:04 am

A lot of negative energy here.
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Post#2813 » by El Poochio » Fri Mar 3, 2017 3:23 am

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Post#2814 » by JustCame » Fri Mar 3, 2017 7:23 pm

swisscheeseD wrote:
JustCame wrote:TBH I'm surprised how I didn't finish above the Hornets in the regular season standings. They're basically a watered down version of the current Clippers, and I basically have the real life Celtics + Dray. But that's just my opinion. Nonetheless, congrats to the top 4! You all have excellent teams.


Fwiw...

Your bench sank you from elite status...IT/Brook deficiencies defensively and all.


I don't know about that. Most of my guys were defensive because I would always have 1, if not [most of the time] 2, of IT/Dray/Brook on the court (a luxury most other teams did not have). That seems like plenty of offense IMO, considering the majority of squads had only 1 or 2 guys of their offensive capabilities. Then, I had stud defenders around them. My team was composed of high impact defensive guys, and elite spacing + playmakers on offense. It seemed like a perfect mesh TBH. Not to mention, I didn't even have to use guys like GR3, Looney, Grant. My bench definitely wasn't bad. GIven everything, I actually thought it was a strength. lol

I understand the outcome though, and this whole thing is subjective anyway. haha

BTW, I do really appreciate the effort you put in, Swiss. Good job. :shy:
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Post#2815 » by bishnykfan » Sat Mar 4, 2017 12:39 pm

NBA Finals will be announced tonight when I get home from watching basketball all day. Should be somewhere around 9PM I hope but don't hold me to that.
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Post#2816 » by LJ4pointplay » Sat Mar 4, 2017 5:02 pm

Middleton tho
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Post#2817 » by mpharris36 » Sat Mar 4, 2017 7:04 pm

LJ4pointplay wrote:Middleton tho


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you have great depth outside of every position outside of PG. I think that would have really hurt you but you have a lot of guys that can play ball.
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Post#2818 » by Manhattan Project » Sun Mar 5, 2017 8:22 am

Kudos to Mags for building a nice well balanced team overall, but happy that I'm moving on. My write up is in and it should most definitely be a tough match-up with the squad BR put together.
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Post#2819 » by br7knicks » Sun Mar 5, 2017 1:58 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Kudos to Mags for building a nice well balanced team overall, but happy that I'm moving on. My write up is in and it should most definitely be a tough match-up with the squad BR put together.


will be honest. i knew my squad was solid. didn't think finals solid. but i think i got lucky when it comes to matchups, unlike last BAT. i liked my last BAT team, but my first round matchup was the ONLY team i didn't want to face.
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Post#2820 » by mpharris36 » Sun Mar 5, 2017 2:23 pm

can't say I saw either team in the finals. But congrats to both teams.
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