NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

[sacking123]

As a neutral observer this is currently my favorite non GSW thread on realgm.

I hope both NOP and Philly struggle while Sac loses just enough to keep the pick without having to swap with the Sixers.

#NOPgivesup4thpick

Haha we need a semi pro Fourth Place, Fourth Place going!!!


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[JohnWillow]

Pretty good day for the team tank, only Knicks won against Sixers... gonna update now thread title.

[dozencousins]

Today with the attempt to keep our 1-10 protected pick the following teams winning would benefit us most .

DET
MIL
MIA
MIN
CHAR
PORT

[dozencousins]

As a neutral observer this is currently my favorite non GSW thread on realgm.

I hope both NOP and Philly struggle while Sac loses just enough to keep the pick without having to swap with the Sixers.

#NOPgivesup4thpick

Haha we need a semi pro Fourth Place, Fourth Place going!!!


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The current pick as of now is tied for 7th pr 10th depending on how you look at it .

[benchmobbin02]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

[Silver Man]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

Markkanen.

[dozencousins]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

The Best Player Available regardless of position . Even if that means a 2nd PG . Though I do not think we will take a 2nd PG .

[JohnWillow]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

Easily Markkanen.

[KingsMilz]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

We don't have a SF I know Richardson could develop into one and play some minutes there but I rather him be a BIG 2 guard rather than a small 3 man. We need a near All-Star or All Star PG more than anything.

[JohnWillow]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

We don't have a SF I know Richardson could develop into one and play some minutes there but I rather him be a BIG 2 guard rather than a small 3 man. We need a near All-Star or All Star PG more than anything.

Tankathon right now is giving us Isaac and Ntikilina.

[JohnWillow]

I really don't want Kings to draft Tatum. That's my only hell to the naw, everybody else from top 8 i'm good.

[dozencousins]

For me if we get 2 first round picks because of all the young talent we already have . Stein , Malachi , Skal , Papa , Buddy + Bogdan coming over I would be willing to allow a team whom wants our early 2nd in this deep draft to do a trade if they offer us their 2018 1st round pick . I think keeping those guys with 2 1st round picks is great and allows us time for our already youngsters + 2 #1 picks to get much needed game experience . If we keep all 3 then their will be plenty of young really good players to not get playing time to grow .
In the meantime we could have 2 more # 1 picks via 2018 .
I mean if you count just the young players I mentioned + 2 more that would be 8 young players . That is not counting Benny Mac if we kept him as well .

[City of Trees]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

BPA.

Isaac #6. Ntilikina #8.

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[JohnWillow]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

BPA.

Isaac #6. Ntilikina #8.

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I think it would be a perfect draft for us, but I think Knicks are not gonna take SF in the draft, like tankathon is showing that they will take Tatum, I think they are taking PG too.

[KingsMilz]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

BPA.

Isaac #6. Ntilikina #8.

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I think it would be a perfect draft for us, but I think Knicks are not gonna take SF in the draft, like tankathon is showing that they will take Tatum, I think they are taking PG too.

They might move Melo to the 4 (Zinger to the 5) where he will most likely have to play in the years to come unless they trade him so getting another 3 to replace Melo (via trade/or age) could/would probably be a good thing for them.

[Jkam31]

No way NO stays in the top 10 however I still think we get Fox at 10-13 pick.


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[dozencousins]

Today with the attempt to keep our 1-10 protected pick the following teams winning would benefit us most .

NY
ORL
UTAH
Dall
Lakers

[benchmobbin02]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

BPA.

Isaac #6. Ntilikina #8.

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To the people that answered BPA, of course. I'm asking who do you think is better overall or for us between Markkanen and Williams?

[KF10]

Question for the board.

Ok, we have SG-SF of the future some what locked down with Richardson, Hield, and Bogdan. We have Center with WCS and Papa. We need a PG and depth at the 4. Say we get a guy like Frank Ntilikina with our first pick to address PG along with a Vet.

It's between Markkanen and Robert Williams to add to the 4 position. Who do you take?

BPA.

Isaac #6. Ntilikina #8.

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To the people that answered BPA, of course. I'm asking who do you think is better overall or for us between Markkanen and Williams?

From what I've seen --

Williams gives off a high-energy, physical 4 that shows flashes on offense. While, Markkanen has a polished offensive game with a great jumper but his length and physicality leaves a lot to be desired.

Williams has a push shot around the rim -- not a hook shot. This tells me he has some touch around the rim. Also, he has some range at the mid-range as well. I've seen him hit mid-range shots before. That being said, he is a below-average rebounder. He kind of reminds of Willie in the aspect of not locating his man and boxing out. Williams uses his great length to alter many shots around the rim and has the ability to guard P&R schemes -- due to his very good agility and length. He's still very raw in the mental aspects of basketball but if he manages to figure things out -- I could see an Ibaka-like potential here.

Markkanen is different from Williams. Markkanen has below-average physical attributes and he's doesn't operate/move as well -- this kinda kills his defensive potential a bit. That being said, this guy is probably the best big man shooter in college basketball in years. His shooting is that good (according to the numbers). Other than his shooting, his scoring is fine but kind of methodical themed. The only problem is that if his shot isn't falling, it feels like the team is playing 4v5 on the court. He doesn't provide much ball-handling/playmaking game nor has much game inside the mid/post ranges.

I guess, given what we have right now -- Skal, Papa G, Willie. I could see Vlade favor Markkanen over Williams due to his ability to space the floor. But I do really like Williams though. If he manages to clean and polish his game, I could see an Ibaka-like player in the future. People compare Markkanen to Dirk but Dirk is a legit HOF and it would be insanely difficult for Markkanen to reach Dirk's level -- while I give Williams a better chance to reach Ibaka's level.

[SacKingZZZ]

Bridges was the guy I wanted to see coming into college and he's starting to live up to the hype IMO. I'm starting to go with a Bridges or bust mentality. For the Kings brand of positionless bball he's got to be the prototype.

Ntilinka is an interesting prospect but a little awkward at PG from what I've seen. I wonder if he'll grow a bit more as well.