GT: Brooklyn GRIT @ Utah Jazz - Friday, 3/3/17 9:00 PM

[MrDollarBills]

I was thinking the same thing. Would help our rebounding a lot also.

On another topic I don't understand KA playing Whitehead so much. He played him the 3rd most minutes on the team and he shot 3-12. He's shot poorly all year (39%) with a lot of turnovers and fouls. Kid has been given much more than a fair shot to learn and improve. Time to recognize he just doesn't have it and find someone else to develop.

Yeah, giving up on a rookie player in March is really the smart, rational thing to do.

Jeremy Lin shot 38% in his first year as a pro. I guess he didn't have it either right?

I am afraid pete won't get it. But seriously, it is not like the Nets have anyone else to develop at this point. We don't have Russel or Simmons.

We have very little options in terms of acquiring talent, despite what some of our brethren on here think, the Nets are not going to be luring awesome free agents. We don't have picks high enough to surely say we'll land a franchise player, in fact, we have to hope that we get lucky and Marks nails it on these next two 1st rd picks with guys who could develop into starters or better. So we literally have no choice but to take a kid like Whitehead, who has upside, and work him through the rough patches and develop him. I'm not sure how many times that this has to be explained, nevermind the hypocrisy of wanting to give up on Whitehead when Lin's first NBA season was nothing to remotely write home about. But oh no, I'm sure the response will be "well see, Lin's different, because...."

[MrDollarBills]

Would a 33 year old Millsap and 31 year old Hill want to join a rebuilding Nets? They'd certainly be great pieces for any team.

No, they won't. they'd be a great addition and immediately give us a serious boost. But why would they come here when contenders will be lining up for their services?

Guys don't want to play for losers, unless they are mercenary players who just go out there solely for the check and not the competition aspect. Any guy that takes max dollars to come here at this point, I'll bet anything fans will probably hate him by the 3rd year.

Deron Williams. Joe Johnson. That's all I have to say. Guys who didn't give a rat's ass whether this team got blown out by 20 or lost by two, the checks cleared either way. I don't know about you guys, but I don't want anyone here who has that mentality. That's why I lobbied for a guy like Lin in the offseason, he wants to play and play hard.

[Roy Tarpley]

I was thinking the same thing. Would help our rebounding a lot also.

On another topic I don't understand KA playing Whitehead so much. He played him the 3rd most minutes on the team and he shot 3-12. He's shot poorly all year (39%) with a lot of turnovers and fouls. Kid has been given much more than a fair shot to learn and improve. Time to recognize he just doesn't have it and find someone else to develop.

Yeah, giving up on a rookie player in March is really the smart, rational thing to do.

Jeremy Lin shot 38% in his first year as a pro. I guess he didn't have it either right?

I am afraid pete won't get it. But seriously, it is not like the Nets have anyone else to develop at this point. We don't have Russel or Simmons.

Yeah, but I think it's just a larger extension of the overall debate about Whitehead. Not sure why the Nets didn't give Yogi Ferrell an equal shot, he's averaging 12.5/3/5 on 42/39/90 on the Mavs now.

Me personally, I knew nothing about Whitehead going into the season but I liked the hometown angle and he seemed to have an NBA body -- so I was open-minded to him.

But I saw his college %, two seasons sub-40% FG, sub-80% FT, over-3 TO per game (compared to Yogi who was over-40% FG all 4 years, over-40% 3PT for 3 years, over-80% FT for 3 years, sub-3 TO per game), so that made me skeptical. And then the eye test over 50 NBA games seemed to suggest the likelihood of the college stats being confirmed.

It's not surprising Yogi and Whitehead's NBA production are both mirroring their college stats.

Anyways, Yogi's no longer on the team so that's old news, and he gotta move forward with what we got.

[Rainyy]

Lopez was nearly in every highlight that involved George Hill scoring.

My guess is this is true of any center on the vast majority of nights. They are simply the most involved player on defense. If you didn't see that stuff happening then good chances are that center is 90 feet tall with rocket boosters for feet.

[Pistolpete1947]

Yeah, giving up on a rookie player in March is really the smart, rational thing to do.

Jeremy Lin shot 38% in his first year as a pro. I guess he didn't have it either right?

I am afraid pete won't get it. But seriously, it is not like the Nets have anyone else to develop at this point. We don't have Russel or Simmons.

We have very little options in terms of acquiring talent, despite what some of our brethren on here think, the Nets are not going to be luring awesome free agents. We don't have picks high enough to surely say we'll land a franchise player, in fact, we have to hope that we get lucky and Marks nails it on these next two 1st rd picks with guys who could develop into starters or better. So we literally have no choice but to take a kid like Whitehead, who has upside, and work him through the rough patches and develop him. I'm not sure how many times that this has to be explained, nevermind the hypocrisy of wanting to give up on Whitehead when Lin's first NBA season was nothing to remotely write home about. But oh no, I'm sure the response will be "well see, Lin's different, because...."

Oh come on now Bill. To say Lin's "first season" he shot 38% is misleading at best. He played 19 games for GS that year and averaged 9.8 minutes a game. He played next year for the Knicks and set a NBA record in points, assists and steals for a player's first 5 starts. That was after just 25 games as a pro. A far cry from the 52 games IW has played this year.
I'm sorry but IW has a low BBIQ which rules him out as a pg and is a poor shooter which rules him out as a sg. On any other team he would have been cut. Sad but true.

[Roy Tarpley]

The Nets are invested in Whitehead for the forseeable future so this is all academic. The key is to figure out IW's best role -- I think it's a Marcus Smart/Patrick Beverley/Randy Foye 3 and D combo guard type.

[bws94]

The Nets are invested in Whitehead for the forseeable future so this is all academic. The key is to figure out IW's best role -- I think it's a Marcus Smart/Patrick Beverley/Randy Foye 3 and D combo guard type.

Whitehead is a heck of a defensive player with a mature, strong, NBA body. I think he's a Smart type for sure.

[twosevenstreet]

Starting lineup has to be
Lin
CLV
RHJ
Acy
Brook

Acy can shoot better than foye

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Acy looks good and very impressive so far. But we don't know if he is another Booker who looks really good in the beginning of the season and then not so much as the season went on. You get the see the bad side of the player after a while.

Very true, but I'd like to find out.

a 6'9 pf with 7'4wings that can shoot the 3 doesn't come along everyday

[Yit]

Tracking players performance vs Jazz 3 March 2017

Apologies for the lateness and delay folks, work really piled up on me and I could only find whatever time I could to crunch the numbers:

By GCP
Acy - 42
Lopez - 25
Booker - 20
Kilpat - 13
Foye - 12
Whitehead - 11
Nicholson - 11
Dinwiddie - 10
Lin - 8
RHJ - 6
CLV - 4
KJM - 4
Harris - 1

Best Offensive/Defensive players = none scoring above a level that is worth reporting.

We can see Lin hasn't gotten back his original levels as yet.

Opponent's GCP
G.Hil - 82
D.Fav - 53
R.Gob - 30
G,Hay - 27
J.Ing - 24
B,Dia - 15
A.Bur - 11
D.Exu - 8
T.Lyl - 5
J.Whi - 0
R.Net - (-1)

Best 5 players GCP average comparisons Nets (22) vs Jazz (43).