2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

[SkyHookFTW]

Saric with two clutch FT's with 3 seconds left. Ice!

[JoeyOtis]

Saric is just so good... 21/10/4 in 27 minutes. He had two great passes. It seems like he's already a leader. If only he had decent athleticism!

He plays so damn hard it's difficult not to root for him. He was worth the wait for the Sixers.

[cksdayoff]

Saric with a clutch pass to give the Sixers the lead with 30 seconds to go i think. He's doing it all right. Imagine him with an offseason to work on his 3 point shot and to get better conditioning.

[Bernman]

Jaylen may go down as the best player from this draft class.

I agree with this. I think Brown has the highest ceiling out of anyone in this draft and thought that before it happened as well. He just has a long ways to go still but you gotta love how he has looked so far this season. I think him Ingram and Simmons all have the highest ceilings then a big big drop off to anyone else. But ya if Brown ends up being the best in this draft it wont surprise me at all.

If you're just talking ceilings, you have to throw Labissiere and Bender in there. They were atop draft boards at one point for a reason. They just are worse bets because of what they have proven so far and since they require more development. Some of that is merely strength, which is rather straight-forward to improve. Ingram has that issue too.

Skal has performed pretty well since finally getting an opportunity after the Cousins trade. The Kings were mediocre at best, but they were over-loaded at big. Labissiere's j 18 and in is money, he can put in on the deck, and finish with either hand in the post. He extends his range a few feet, and that's a point more per most his jumpers. Of course he runs like a gazelle and plays above the rim. He's showing a little more tenacity, to rebound as he is, and whatnot. That's really the other department he needed to make gains in, other than his body. He was pretty timid. But that's something that theoretically could change with maturity and experience. If he puts it all together, he has All-NBA potential.

Bender is probably more likely to realize that kind of potential though because I buy his mindset. He was actually known for being pretty tough. He's just too skinny. He's also a rather heady player. He's not far off from raining those 3's. He is good maneuvering on drives and has good post moves. Just inclined to camp outside the way the NBA has headed and with his lightweight frame. He's had some injury troubles early in his career. His standing reach is huge. He should be able to play center in the modern NBA, while mismatching opponents. I think he makes natural jumps the next few years to be pretty big-time. With Skal I'm saying he very well could do it. He was a GREAT gamble for the Kings at 28, and should have went a lot higher, especially in that draft. For Bender I think he flat out will do it and more than justify the Suns picking him that high.

I think this draft will back-end respectability or better like 2013 wound up doing. That's what tends to happen when a class is big-heavy. Takes them longer to develop. That draft ultimately produced bigs like Giannis, Gobert, Adams, Noel, Zeller, Plumlee, Dieng, and Nogueira.

[LobCityRondo2KG]

Jaylen Brown lighting it up right now

[Dan Z]

Saric is just so good... 21/10/4 in 27 minutes. He had two great passes. It seems like he's already a leader. If only he had decent athleticism!

He plays so damn hard it's difficult not to root for him. He was worth the wait for the Sixers.

It'd be crazy if Saric ended up being the best player Hinkie drafted for the Sixers.

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[bs_and_cs]

Brown has absolutely turned a corner.

Exciting for the present and the future.

[PierceFan4ever]

Jaylen Brown is looking pretty legit right now..16 and 8 off the bench against Ingram who scored zero. Pretty good for a guy who didn't make the rising stars game. Since Simmons hasn't played, and I might be slightly bias to this since I've watched him all season, that Jaylen is the best player in his class. Just never got the minutes early from Stevens until recently and he's looking good unusually fast for such a raw projected player.

[24istheLAW]

Saric is just so good... 21/10/4 in 27 minutes. He had two great passes. It seems like he's already a leader. If only he had decent athleticism!

He's always had that "alpha dog" thing going for him. When he was a teenager in the Euroleague he was taking big shots for Cibona.

[robbie84]

Jaylen Brown baby. He's going to make Danny Ainge look like even more of a genius. To think what he could be 4 years is so freakin exciting to a Celtics diehard like me, and then to think we could add someone like Fultz, Ball, Jackson etc to him and Smart.
Giddy.

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Too bad Big Sauce missed that layup.

[SKR]

It looks like the 76ers finally brought Baby Shaq Sofo over.
NBA should be very afraid

[76thBearCub]

Not the most opportune time to say it, but Saric is a beast.

Usually when people say a guy makes up for lack of athleticism, its an excuse.

He actually knows how to make up for it.

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[leolozon]

Not the most opportune time to say it, but Saric is a beast.

Usually when people say a guy makes up for lack of athleticism, its an excuse.

He actually knows how to make up for it.

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Yeah, I wish Brown let him go for the triple double. Just 4 more rebounds and 2 more passes. He could have gotten there in the last quarter.

[robbie84]

@Mike_Schmitz
Jaylen Brown last 10 games: 17.4 PTS and 7.7 REB per 40 on 56% from 2 and 40.7% from 3. In a league hungry for good wings, Cs got one at #3.

Brown a great case for importance of taking college situation into account. Had no space @ Cal. Must scout pre NCAA.

[Promezclan]

@Mike_Schmitz
Jaylen Brown last 10 games: 17.4 PTS and 7.7 REB per 40 on 56% from 2 and 40.7% from 3. In a league hungry for good wings, Cs got one at #3.

Brown a great case for importance of taking college situation into account. Had no space @ Cal. Must scout pre NCAA.

Last 10 games per 40:
W. Hernangomez: 16.5 pts, 14.5 reb, 3.2 ast, 21.6 PER
Dario Saric: 24.6 pt, 11.7 reb, 4.9 ast, 19.9 PER
Malcolm Brogdon: 20.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 5.4 ast, 17.3 PER
Buddy Hield: 19.0 pts, 4.9 reb, 2.4 ast, 14.6 PER
Jaylen Brown: 17.4 pts, 7.7 reb, 1.3 ast, 12.9 PER
Yogi Ferrell: 13.8 pts, 4.5 reb, 7.0 ast, 12.6 PER
Marquess Chiss: 15.8 pts, 6.3 reb, 1.9 ast, 12.3 PER
Jamal Murray: 19.5 pts, 3.7 reb, 3.7 ast, 11.5 PER
Brandon Ingram: 12.3 pts, 5.4 reb, 2.7 ast, 7.0 PER

So basically, even in his cherry-picked games, he's been average among the rookies who've played (mostly low picks in a mediocre year) - turns out everyone looks pretty good per 40, since no one actually plays that many minutes. I think I'll skip taking the college situation into account. But, at least he's not Brandon Ingram...

[PaKii94]

@Mike_Schmitz
Jaylen Brown last 10 games: 17.4 PTS and 7.7 REB per 40 on 56% from 2 and 40.7% from 3. In a league hungry for good wings, Cs got one at #3.

Brown a great case for importance of taking college situation into account. Had no space @ Cal. Must scout pre NCAA.

Last 10 games per 40:
W. Hernangomez: 16.5 pts, 14.5 reb, 3.2 ast, 21.6 PER
Dario Saric: 24.6 pt, 11.7 reb, 4.9 ast, 19.9 PER
Malcolm Brogdon: 20.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 5.4 ast, 17.3 PER
Buddy Hield: 19.0 pts, 4.9 reb, 2.4 ast, 14.6 PER
Jaylen Brown: 17.4 pts, 7.7 reb, 1.3 ast, 12.9 PER
Yogi Ferrell: 13.8 pts, 4.5 reb, 7.0 ast, 12.6 PER
Marquess Chiss: 15.8 pts, 6.3 reb, 1.9 ast, 12.3 PER
Jamal Murray: 19.5 pts, 3.7 reb, 3.7 ast, 11.5 PER
Brandon Ingram: 12.3 pts, 5.4 reb, 2.7 ast, 7.0 PER

So basically, even in his cherry-picked games, he's been average among the rookies who've played (mostly low picks in a mediocre year) - turns out everyone looks pretty good per 40, since no one actually plays that many minutes. I think I'll skip taking the college situation into account. But, at least he's not Brandon Ingram...

Good point but what are the shooting percentages for them?

[robbie84]

@Mike_Schmitz
Jaylen Brown last 10 games: 17.4 PTS and 7.7 REB per 40 on 56% from 2 and 40.7% from 3. In a league hungry for good wings, Cs got one at #3.

Brown a great case for importance of taking college situation into account. Had no space @ Cal. Must scout pre NCAA.

Last 10 games per 40:
W. Hernangomez: 16.5 pts, 14.5 reb, 3.2 ast, 21.6 PER
Dario Saric: 24.6 pt, 11.7 reb, 4.9 ast, 19.9 PER
Malcolm Brogdon: 20.1 pts, 3.2 reb, 5.4 ast, 17.3 PER
Buddy Hield: 19.0 pts, 4.9 reb, 2.4 ast, 14.6 PER
Jaylen Brown: 17.4 pts, 7.7 reb, 1.3 ast, 12.9 PER
Yogi Ferrell: 13.8 pts, 4.5 reb, 7.0 ast, 12.6 PER
Marquess Chiss: 15.8 pts, 6.3 reb, 1.9 ast, 12.3 PER
Jamal Murray: 19.5 pts, 3.7 reb, 3.7 ast, 11.5 PER
Brandon Ingram: 12.3 pts, 5.4 reb, 2.7 ast, 7.0 PER

So basically, even in his cherry-picked games, he's been average among the rookies who've played (mostly low picks in a mediocre year) - turns out everyone looks pretty good per 40, since no one actually plays that many minutes. I think I'll skip taking the college situation into account. But, at least he's not Brandon Ingram...

I think the only other player in those 10 games starting for a playoff team in that group is Jamal Murray (is he starting?).

You also havent included FG% in those either, which is part of the pat on the back for Jaylen for 52% 2pfg and 40.7% 3pfg

Those following the Celtics would understand the significance of his play since Avery Bradley went down.. he's shown us his star potential on both ends and scored efficiently. Some beautiful athletic moves too.

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