Is there an end of season outcome that wouldn't get Rob Hennigan fired?
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Hennigan has one year left on his contract so if the team shows improvement to say up to the 8th-10th spot in the lottery I think he's safe.
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Ignore record, if the young core (Payton, Ross, Mario, AG, Vuc, Evan) show any sort of life and cohesiveness, then I think he comes back. I honestly think losing an upbeat guy like Victor and replacing him with a disgruntled vet like Ibaka really hurt the locker room. On paper we should have been a better team than our previous 35 win squad, but team dynamics matter, especially for young guys. Older vets tend to have more of a "just go to work mentality". Now you got Ross, a guy who wants to prove himself as a star in this league, so hopefully we will continue to see enthusiasm from the team like we have the last couple games.
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OrlandoNed wrote:Zmill wrote:OrlandoNed wrote:I'm not sure. I think Henny would of done more at the deadline if he felt like this was his last chance. Unless he thinks he is safe and doesn't expect the rug getting pulled out from under him.
That could also mean Hennigan has already been stripped of power and wasn't allowed to make any moves. I doubt they would let Hennigan go rogue and make deals that would give him a chance at saving his own ass while potentially hurting the organization
If that were true, why is Hennigan still here? Is Hennigan's contract up at the end of the year and management doesn't want to pay him severance?
There's not a lot of reason to can a lame duck GM Midseason in the NBA. You don't see it often, if at all. Especially when you've had as much instability as we have. Too much media backlash. They will "evaluate him after season's end"
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Zmill wrote:OrlandoNed wrote:Zmill wrote:
That could also mean Hennigan has already been stripped of power and wasn't allowed to make any moves. I doubt they would let Hennigan go rogue and make deals that would give him a chance at saving his own ass while potentially hurting the organization
If that were true, why is Hennigan still here? Is Hennigan's contract up at the end of the year and management doesn't want to pay him severance?
There's not a lot of reason to can a lame duck GM Midseason in the NBA. You don't see it often, if at all. Especially when you've had as much instability as we have. Too much media backlash. They will "evaluate him after season's end"
I like rob and want him to stay. However I think it's better to fire midseaon rather than after. Your new GM has to be able to get to know the team/coaches/scouts- then asses who stays and who goes- then asses the draft prospects and be fully prepared for any trade scenarios with the draft/offseason. Then there's free agency. Better to start now than just before the draft. There is nothing to lose by making the change after the all-star break. I think it's better to be prepared for the offseason than to keep a GM that's going to get fired. Hopefully we keep rob and don't have to worry about it.
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anothermagicfan wrote:Zmill wrote:OrlandoNed wrote:If that were true, why is Hennigan still here? Is Hennigan's contract up at the end of the year and management doesn't want to pay him severance?
There's not a lot of reason to can a lame duck GM Midseason in the NBA. You don't see it often, if at all. Especially when you've had as much instability as we have. Too much media backlash. They will "evaluate him after season's end"
I like rob and want him to stay. However I think it's better to fire midseaon rather than after. Your new GM has to be able to get to know the team/coaches/scouts- then asses who stays and who goes- then asses the draft prospects and be fully prepared for any trade scenarios with the draft/offseason. Then there's free agency. Better to start now than just before the draft. There is nothing to lose by making the change after the all-star break. I think it's better to be prepared for the offseason than to keep a GM that's going to get fired. Hopefully we keep rob and don't have to worry about it.
How often do GMs get fired Midseason? Other than Kupchak... Not many off the top of my head. Especially when there is no major reason to rush the firing.. No unhappy/expiring stars or protected draft picks coming up for us
Even rarer.. How often do GMs get hired Midseason? I can't think of many here either..
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I think having 1 year left on his deal might actually help Rob's case to stay here. Ownership might be able to tolerate that.
So far Rob has made so many critical mistakes and very little progress that he deserves to go, but I do have doubts that he will actually be let go. I'm just hoping that as long as he is here, that he doesn't make more mistakes.
What he needs is for one of Elfrid, Mario and Gordon to start looking like a star.
So far Rob has made so many critical mistakes and very little progress that he deserves to go, but I do have doubts that he will actually be let go. I'm just hoping that as long as he is here, that he doesn't make more mistakes.
What he needs is for one of Elfrid, Mario and Gordon to start looking like a star.
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I think the writing is on the wall. Hennigan is on borrowed time. Whether he gets fired now or he fulfills his contract. He doesn't get resigned as GM unless this teams long term prognosis is much brighter. I personally don't see a lot of reasons to keep him around, he's consistently made bad moves and the team gets worse as time goes along. Find a new pair of eyes to look at this team. The roster isn't going to all the sudden be championship quality through player improvement. I honestly believe the only player on this roster who sees the Magic in the post season will be the '17-18' rookies and Terance Ross.
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I think Rob stays on for another year unless we absolutely **** the bed the rest of the season. If there is any sign of proper basketball coming from our young guys led by Ross he'll get to go to work this summer to prove himself.
Really curious if he always had this Ross play in his mind when he made the Ibaka deal. We know he's liked Ross for a long time and we know Toronto wasn't willing to pony up what was needed to pry Ibaka from the Thunder. I wish I could ask him and figure out just how calculated that high risk trade was last summer. If he's flying by the seat of his pants, I regret being a Hennigan apologist. If he has these sort of calculated moves line up when planning don't be surprised if management has more confidence in him than we think.
Really curious if he always had this Ross play in his mind when he made the Ibaka deal. We know he's liked Ross for a long time and we know Toronto wasn't willing to pony up what was needed to pry Ibaka from the Thunder. I wish I could ask him and figure out just how calculated that high risk trade was last summer. If he's flying by the seat of his pants, I regret being a Hennigan apologist. If he has these sort of calculated moves line up when planning don't be surprised if management has more confidence in him than we think.
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Zmill wrote:anothermagicfan wrote:Zmill wrote:There's not a lot of reason to can a lame duck GM Midseason in the NBA. You don't see it often, if at all. Especially when you've had as much instability as we have. Too much media backlash. They will "evaluate him after season's end"
I like rob and want him to stay. However I think it's better to fire midseaon rather than after. Your new GM has to be able to get to know the team/coaches/scouts- then asses who stays and who goes- then asses the draft prospects and be fully prepared for any trade scenarios with the draft/offseason. Then there's free agency. Better to start now than just before the draft. There is nothing to lose by making the change after the all-star break. I think it's better to be prepared for the offseason than to keep a GM that's going to get fired. Hopefully we keep rob and don't have to worry about it.
How often do GMs get fired Midseason? Other than Kupchak... Not many off the top of my head. Especially when there is no major reason to rush the firing.. No unhappy/expiring stars or protected draft picks coming up for us
Even rarer.. How often do GMs get hired Midseason? I can't think of many here either..
I know it's not common. I just don't see the harm in pulling the trigger now instead of later. And obviously if gms aren't fired mid-season there's no mid-season hirings. Kinda hard to fill a position thats already filled don't ya think?
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I think he should be fired, but I don't think he will be. I think the Magic will have him finish out his last year and that'll give him another year to maybe change their minds.
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Zmill wrote:OrlandoNed wrote:Zmill wrote:
I think we hire Danny Ferry.
Anyways: I think ownership has already made their mind. Rob is out. We were out of the playoff race before ASB even started. He will be canned within a week following the season's end.
I'm not sure. I think Henny would of done more at the deadline if he felt like this was his last chance. Unless he thinks he is safe and doesn't expect the rug getting pulled out from under him.
That could also mean Hennigan has already been stripped of power and wasn't allowed to make any moves. I doubt they would let Hennigan go rogue and make deals that would give him a chance at saving his own ass while potentially hurting the organization
I think the decision is already made and they don't want to make a change during the season.

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I think the Ross trade saved his ass
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