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Post#21 » by Robo_Claw » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:26 pm

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TheOnlyQuayH wrote:This board is cancer, the original post tells me you know nothing about basketball. Basketball fans are getting dumber by the minute, I blame the media and analytics. I advised you to buy a league pass and actually watch all the games, in fact watch it multiple times, analyze and study the game and educate yourselves because this is crazy. I can't believe football fans are more knowledgeable about their sport than basketball fans now a days.


Co sign half the people on here don't actually watch the games


Not that I don't want to watch every single game but dang man I got a ft job and am going back to school and live with my s/o. There's not enough hours in the day. Gotta live. Ball is life but there is a real life other people like to occasionally enjoy.
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Post#22 » by Rapaz » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:32 pm

Scalabrine wrote:James Johnson has been playing point forward. Rodney McGruder deserves defensive team consideration and rookie team recognition, he is a relentless lockdown defender. Tyler Johnson is a maniac. Dion Waiters has been clutch and is proving everyone wrong, he's been one of the best if not THE best free agency pickups in basketball. Dragic has been playing like he did in Phoenix when he was the lead guard, maybe even better and Whiteside hasn't let up after receiving a big deal.

In the strangest turn of events, I have taken a liking to the Heat after one of my good friends started working for them. I've been to a few games and have sat pretty much right on the bench. Haslem has been awesome as a leader. Juwan Howard has a future as a head coach. Spo deserves all the credit that he never got when he was coaching the super friends.

I appreciate the love, bro, but this is not right. :wavefinger: We need to rekindle the Knicks-Heat rivalry of old. The NBA is stronger when the Knicks are good.
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Post#23 » by r0drig0lac » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:39 pm

Upperclass wrote:So are we just going to sit here and ignore the fact that this talent-less team, has somehow won 13 in a row from mid-Jan to mid Feb, while also beating Houston, GS, and Cleveland twice in the past few months. While also losing to Orlando repeatedly.

Are they bound for the playoffs? And how the hell are they winning games suddenly??

respect but I disagree

edit: Bogdanovic instead of Babbit would have been incredible, is what to talk about Dion Goaters? At the beginning of the season some nets fans did not want him on the team and now the guy plays like a all star
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Post#24 » by BBallFreak » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:43 pm

Scalabrine wrote:James Johnson has been playing point forward. Rodney McGruder deserves defensive team consideration and rookie team recognition, he is a relentless lockdown defender. Tyler Johnson is a maniac. Dion Waiters has been clutch and is proving everyone wrong, he's been one of the best if not THE best free agency pickups in basketball. Dragic has been playing like he did in Phoenix when he was the lead guard, maybe even better and Whiteside hasn't let up after receiving a big deal.

In the strangest turn of events, I have taken a liking to the Heat after one of my good friends started working for them. I've been to a few games and have sat pretty much right on the bench. Haslem has been awesome as a leader. Juwan Howard has a future as a head coach. Spo deserves all the credit that he never got when he was coaching the super friends.

It's a hard team not to like given how they play the game. It's the unselfish attitude that really seems to make the team so much fun to watch and root for. I actually like this team more than the old Lamar Odom group. They were great, but this team seems, on some level, to be doing more with less, even though this team is deeper. That team had Odom, Wade, and Butler. This team doesn't have that much top end talent, IMO, but they're more talented from top to bottom...
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Post#25 » by gimmeFball » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:47 pm

Winslow's injury happened.
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Post#26 » by BBallFreak » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:55 pm

gimmeFball wrote:Winslow's injury happened.

I hate to say it, but that is part of it. Not because he's a bad player. He certainly isn't. But replacing him with Waiters, while incorporating Ellington into the rotation, has made a huge difference. He's gotta work on his shot this off season, or risk being an afterthought.
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Post#27 » by ThumbsUpBaby » Tue Mar 7, 2017 6:58 pm

Talentless? They have Dion Waiter and he's the GOAT.
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Post#28 » by Scalabrine » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:07 pm

Rapaz wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:James Johnson has been playing point forward. Rodney McGruder deserves defensive team consideration and rookie team recognition, he is a relentless lockdown defender. Tyler Johnson is a maniac. Dion Waiters has been clutch and is proving everyone wrong, he's been one of the best if not THE best free agency pickups in basketball. Dragic has been playing like he did in Phoenix when he was the lead guard, maybe even better and Whiteside hasn't let up after receiving a big deal.

In the strangest turn of events, I have taken a liking to the Heat after one of my good friends started working for them. I've been to a few games and have sat pretty much right on the bench. Haslem has been awesome as a leader. Juwan Howard has a future as a head coach. Spo deserves all the credit that he never got when he was coaching the super friends.

I appreciate the love, bro, but this is not right. :wavefinger: We need to rekindle the Knicks-Heat rivalry of old. The NBA is stronger when the Knicks are good.


Hey I completely agree, and my family has given me serious **** for it but one of my good friends is working for the Heat coaching staff, and I want to see him succeed. The more success the Heat have the more success he will have so it's hard for me not to pay attention to them. ...Especially when I'm getting free tickets from him to go to Heat games and sitting right near the bench.

I'll let you know that when I went to the Heat Knicks game in Miami I stood up after nearly every made basket the Knicks had and I still wear my Patrick Ewing jersey to the games haha
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Post#29 » by Scalabrine » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:13 pm

How much do you expect Waiters to fetch in the offseason? A Jamal Crawford type deal?
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Post#30 » by ryanpuge » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:15 pm

Rapaz wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:James Johnson has been playing point forward. Rodney McGruder deserves defensive team consideration and rookie team recognition, he is a relentless lockdown defender. Tyler Johnson is a maniac. Dion Waiters has been clutch and is proving everyone wrong, he's been one of the best if not THE best free agency pickups in basketball. Dragic has been playing like he did in Phoenix when he was the lead guard, maybe even better and Whiteside hasn't let up after receiving a big deal.

In the strangest turn of events, I have taken a liking to the Heat after one of my good friends started working for them. I've been to a few games and have sat pretty much right on the bench. Haslem has been awesome as a leader. Juwan Howard has a future as a head coach. Spo deserves all the credit that he never got when he was coaching the super friends.

I appreciate the love, bro, but this is not right. :wavefinger: We need to rekindle the Knicks-Heat rivalry of old. The NBA is stronger when the Knicks are good.


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Post#31 » by Wolfy1983 » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:16 pm

Can we define what talent is because OP lost me with that? Does more media coverage a player receives make him talented?

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Post#32 » by Statlanta » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:32 pm

Surprisingly good team fostering that Riley environment
Also Only GOATs lose to Orlando.
Mj in 1995
LBJ in 2009
Dion in 2017
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Post#33 » by Rapaz » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:34 pm

OrlandoTill wrote:Surprisingly good team fostering that Riley environment
Also Only GOATs lose to Orlando.
Mj in 1995
LBJ in 2009
Dion in 2017

I'll say this, if the Heat face the Magic in the playoffs, Miami would be lucky to win a game.
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Post#34 » by Mamba Mentality » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:46 pm

All this talk about Heat players, but not much of a mention of Erik Spoelstra. Is he still considered an overrated coach?
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Post#35 » by SlowPaced » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:51 pm

Here are the reasons:

- Having a philosophy and system goes a long way. Most players in the NBA can play when used right, they made it for a reason. The switch and pressure based defense and drive and kick offense is working brilliantly. Everybody knows their roles.
- Goran Dragic is a player that's proven before that he can get teams to overachieve when he's the leader of the offense. Remember the Suns team he almost led to Playoffs when they were expected to be terrible?
- Dion Waiters is not talentless, he went #4 for a reason. It seems obvious now that focus was his main issue.
- James Johnson was always a very good defender. What seems to be the case is that his talents were underutilized on offense.
- A lot of people hadn't even heard of Tyler Johnson when we paid him in the summer and were quick to call it a dumb move, but the guy is a great sixth man. Instant offense combo guard that competes on defense.

For better or for worse, the Heat franchise is allergic to not competing hard enough. And that goes for both the front office and the coaching staff. And of course in this atmosphere, the players acquire the same values.

LeBron James talked about "Establishing work ethic and winning attitude" in Cleveland in his first year back for a reason. He saw it in Miami.
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Post#36 » by bape_lovers » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:53 pm

JJ is real MVP :P
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Post#37 » by LALifer49 » Tue Mar 7, 2017 7:54 pm

The Regime wrote:All this talk about Heat players, but not a single mention of Erik Spoelstra. Is he still considered an overrated coach?


I mean, that's false if you read the thread....
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Post#38 » by CrossOver » Tue Mar 7, 2017 8:05 pm

bape_lovers wrote:JJ is real MVP :P


Speaking of JJ:

The before and after story of James Johnson’s physical transformation


Before he lost nearly 40 pounds, reignited his playing career and put himself in position for a big pay day this coming July, James Johnson found himself shirtless, embarrassed and a bit confused standing in front of the camera lens of an iPad inside the Heat's training facility last summer.

“It was weird to me – really weird to me,” said Johnson, a former first round pick of Chicago back in 2009, who in his first seven years in the league with the Bulls, Raptors, Kings, Grizzlies and Hawks had never been asked by the team's strength and conditioning coaches to pose shirtless for a photo.

“I thought I was going to be the only [player to do it] because I came in something huge... But then I ran through their iPad. It was like a magazine, a list of their accomplishments with other players and I saw it with my own eyes. And from what I saw on that iPad, I wanted to change myself.”

As Johnson, 30, flipped through Bill and Eric Foran's iPad, he saw before and after photos of dozens and dozens of former Heat players, who all went through the Foran's intense workouts and transformed their bodies into finely tuned, fit, athletic machines to survive the demands of coach Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley before him.

Of all the photos that stood out, Johnson said, it was that of seven-time All-Star and former Heat guard Joe Johnson, 35, who joined the team in late February of last season and was part of the Heat’s run to within a victory of the Eastern Conference Finals, which made the biggest impression on him.

“That’s because he came in with the Miami Heat so late and was still able to change his body like that,” James Johnson said. “It has a lot to do with the player, but all the compliments and all the rewards should go to the Forans.”

As the Heat (30-34) head toward the back stretch of the season as winners of 19 of its last 23 games, one overriding sentiment from the players who joined the team in the past year is how they all feel as though they are in the best shape of their playing careers.

Dion Waiters, Wayne Ellington, Willie Reed and Johnson have all remarked how they’ve each trimmed their body fat levels considerably since joining the Heat.

“It's amazing,” Reed said in early February. “You see a transformation. Sometimes you can’t see it because you feel like you aren’t doing as much as you can, but when coaches show you film and you have people saying ‘Hey you’re getting better’ you start to understand it a little bit more. It’s just a testament to the Forans and coaching staff. It’s a testament to [personal trainers] Drew Hanlen and Stan Remy as well to help me become better offensively. The stronger I get, the more conditioned I get, I know I’ll be able to do what I’m doing now at a higher level.”

Johnson, though, could be the most amazing transformation yet for the Forans.


http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/heat-check/article136917233.html
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Post#39 » by peja_the_legend » Tue Mar 7, 2017 8:12 pm

I really hope they make the play offs.Best story of the season.
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Post#40 » by BBallFreak » Tue Mar 7, 2017 8:14 pm

From that same article, and this alludes to what I've been talking about.

“This culture is real,” Johnson said. “Not only that, you know the kind of practices we have. We have those kind of practices where you can’t go out and hang out all night and think you’re going to be able to come to practice and really go hard. Because I’ll call you out, everybody on this team will call you out. We won’t leave it to the coaches to call you out. We take care of that ourselves. That’s the inside of the locker room.”

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/heat-check/article136917233.html#storylink=cpy

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