The Washington Redskins Thread

Wizardspride · Post #81 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Mar 9, 2017 11:46 pm

sfam · Post #82 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:07 am

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
Dark Faze wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:It's all speculation. Reporters float BS constantly. Remember, Tony Romo was going to get Dallas the #2 overall pick a couple of days ago.

But I'll say this, if Kirk actually wants to leave DC for the 49ers, he's a complete dumbass. Yes leave a team where you were successful and played behind a beast of an offensive line to go to a **** terrible team where you'll get lit up. Piss away your shot at a long career as a starter.

Eh I don't know about all that. He's having his first kid and the Bay + Shanahan + Garcon offer some familiarity and even better a lack of dysfunction. What is there in DC? D-Jax is gone and Garcon is gone. All he has on offense is Crowder. Jordan Reed is a single concussion away from deciding to go back to school for his masters in communications. The Skins are hardly the place to bank on for a long career in anything besides a chance to get your own 4 hour talk show slot on the radio.

Don't get me wrong, I don't know how far away the niners are away from being good, its probably a ways, but the skins suck.

We have one of the best offensive lines in the league and a system in which he was successful. A QB should never willingly leave that. If Kirk gets traded, I'd be shocked if he remained successful. It almost never happens.

We don't have a great offensive line. We have an offensive philosophy that gets rid of the ball in like 2 seconds to accommodate for having a mediocre line. It was better last year, but Best in league? No, not even close.

sfam · Post #83 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:09 am

Dark Faze wrote:this is the worst it's ever been

I think the Albert Haynesworth fiasco circus was worse.

sfam · Post #84 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:13 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Just another day in the clusterflickin world of Baby Danny.

Not sure who I hate worse -- The Danny or the Donald.

Both of them are egotistical fools who surround themselves with yes men.

If only we could vote for The Danny. The list of people I would take Danny over are few and far between. He's better than the tight-fisted owner who never spends a buck, but other than that, he's about as bad as an owner can be.

sfam · Post #85 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:40 am

Read on Twitter

TGW · Post #86 » by **TGW** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:14 am

this team is such a failure. the only person in the building with half a brain, and they let him go. Morons.

AFM · Post #87 » by **AFM** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:19 am

Wow. Just wow.

Donkey McDonkerton · Post #88 » by **Donkey McDonkerton** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:15 am

Season tix have been in the family since 1973- that's it, I'm out!!!!

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verbal8 · Post #89 » by **verbal8** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:21 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Just another day in the clusterflickin world of Baby Danny.

Not sure who I hate worse -- The Danny or the Donald.

Both of them are egotistical fools who surround themselves with yes men.

Trump is to the Presidency as Snyder is to NFL ownership

stevemcqueen1 · Post #90 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:55 am

gtn130 wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:To be clear, nothing has actually transpired yeinst. Everyone is guessing at what's going on. Nobody knows. I'm not going to get worked up about all of the innuendo being reported. I'm going to wait to see what happens.

Garcon and Jackson are gone. Kirk Cousins is asking to be traded. Scot McCloughan didn't attend the combine and isn't participating in free agency.

Let us know when you've nailed down the real reasons for concern.

I don't love the firing of McCloughan, but I don't think it's some sort of disaster. He was fired from his previous two gigs, the man is obviously difficult to work with and he made it inevitable when he left Redskins park three days before the combine. You can be brilliant at a part of your job and still be unemployable. And I think that's the case with McCloughan.

As far as Garcon and Jackson go, they were good players but they were mercenaries and they were aging and expensive. We've known for two years they were going to walk. Pierre is a turd of a teammate too, I'm not sad to see him go.

The Kirk situation is the only real issue. If we lose him without decent compensation, it's a huge blow. But if we get the second overall pick for him and come away with Watson, I'll be fine. Kirk is not a big time talent, he was lucky to end up in such a favorable situation. If he wants to throw that away, then you trade the poor fool for as much as you can get in return.

But again, nothing has happened with Kirk yet. Everything that's been reported about him is innuendo. There is no point in freaking out about him until something does.

Physhi · Post #91 » by **Physhi** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:20 am

Who would have thought that a team with Ernie Grunfeld at the head of decisions would not be the most incompetent team in the same city.

gambitx777 · Post #92 » by **gambitx777** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:28 am

Maybe ted should Buy the skins too LOL. Look I don't know if he was really showing up drunk or not, but I mean its not like the team was bad, and **** if I got kick out of every place I went drunk I would never leave my garage. lol. For real there is functional and there is non functional and Im not sure scott was one or the other. But we need to pull something off. SOON.

queridiculo · Post #93 » by **queridiculo** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:10 pm

Leopard can't change his spots, was only a matter of time before Snyder was going to have **** running down his leg again.

Gave up during the Zorn/Cerrato days, haven't looked back since, following the Slurs is a complete waste of time.

Silvie Lysandra · Post #94 » by **Silvie Lysandra** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:31 pm

sfam wrote:
long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:Just another day in the clusterflickin world of Baby Danny.

Not sure who I hate worse -- The Danny or the Donald.

Both of them are egotistical fools who surround themselves with yes men.

If only we could vote for The Danny. The list of people I would take Danny over are few and far between. He's better than the tight-fisted owner who never spends a buck, but other than that, he's about as bad as an owner can be.

spoiler: they're fundamentally the same person. Myopic conservative egotistical mentally ill rich people who got rich by scamming people.

The Trump administration is basically how President Dan Snyder would look.

Dark Faze · Post #95 » by **Dark Faze** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:08 pm

I don't think either side looks great right now. We need more info to come out before we can solidly judge the situation.

It would be easier to give Snyder and Bruce SOME kind of benefit of the doubt if they weren't handling the Kirk situation so badly

Saqs · Post #96 » by **Saqs** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:40 pm

Drafting Josh Doctson is a fireable offense to me :wavefinger:

. I wish the guy well regardless.

sfam · Post #97 » by **sfam** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:54 pm

Saqs wrote:Drafting Josh Doctson is a fireable offense to me . I wish the guy well regardless.

I kind of agree with this. Assuming this was McCloughan's decision, it was a horrific one.

Pick a line, either side. Pick a position, any one. Draft that.

WR was so not our area of need last year.

Post #98 » by **Rafael122** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:57 pm

sfam wrote:
Saqs wrote:Drafting Josh Doctson is a fireable offense to me . I wish the guy well regardless.

I kind of agree with this. Assuming this was McCloughan's decision, it was a horrific one.

Pick a line, either side. Pick a position, any one. Draft that.

WR was so not our area of need last year.

But it is this year, he was drafted because they expected Jackson and Garcon to leave.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #99 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:24 pm

Doctson was a top 15 talent, he was excellent value at 22. The only guy I liked over him from a BPA standpoint was LaQuon Treadwell, and he sucked as a rookie and might be a bust. Doctson is a big time talent. Good runner that is capable of opening up his stride and gearing up quickly off the line and out of his breaks. Strong hands too. Knows how to use to fend off DBs downfield and doesn't drop many. All in all he is a silky route runner that is really good at building vertical separation and/or coming up with 50/50 throws in traffic. 41 inch vertical. And this... this is special:

His hands and ability to high point throws are special.

My only questions about him are strength and health. Can he get a good release against good press coverage? Otherwise he's got Probowl upside, it's just a matter of getting healthy.

Dark Faze · Post #100 » by **Dark Faze** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:45 pm

I had no problem with the Doc move even if he didn't play last year. The whole point obviously was for him to be a guy you could plug into once Jack or Pierre were inevitably released.

Passing on Williams was what pissed me off. I was fine with Scherff if he was going to be our right tackle, but for him to be a guard pretty much right away was a waste. I know Scherff is good, but he isn't great on the eyetest and our line still gets overpowered at the line of scrimmage--part of why we're ass in the red zone. If you were picking Scherff over a concencus best overall defensive tackle you needed to be damned sure he'd be a tackle.