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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#141 » by Slava » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:39 am



Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#142 » by Spanish_Laker » Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:46 pm

I don't know this guy, but I don't think Rob could be an upgrade over Mitch without any GM experience at all. I wish him the best, though.
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Post#143 » by dockingsched » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:38 pm

iamworthy wrote:This quote by Rob Pelinka "Our timeline is to be aggressive and to grow with quality players.” kinda scares me. Here's the entire quote:
“That’s not acceptable,” Pelinka said at his introductory press conference on Friday at the Lakers’ practice facility. “We have to get better talent for Luke to coach. We have to develop our young players. Our timeline is to be aggressive and to grow with quality players.”


I intercept aggressive to mean trade our young guys to get a established player in here to get Luke better talent instead of letting our young guys grow together. :dontknow:


They did nothing but generalize and give clichés, I wouldn't read too much into anything they said.
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#144 » by crazyeights » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:10 pm

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iamworthy wrote:This quote by Rob Pelinka "Our timeline is to be aggressive and to grow with quality players.” kinda scares me. Here's the entire quote:
“That’s not acceptable,” Pelinka said at his introductory press conference on Friday at the Lakers’ practice facility. “We have to get better talent for Luke to coach. We have to develop our young players. Our timeline is to be aggressive and to grow with quality players.”


I intercept aggressive to mean trade our young guys to get a established player in here to get Luke better talent instead of letting our young guys grow together. :dontknow:


They did nothing but generalize and give clichés, I wouldn't read too much into anything they said.


It was an introductory presser. Of course it's going to be general.
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#145 » by Michael Lucky » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:57 pm

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Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.

Seriously doubt she would foresake her two first Borns. Either way, her shares aren't large enough to really matter since the bulk already went to each kid.
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Post#146 » by Slava » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:40 pm

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Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.

Seriously doubt she would foresake her two first Borns. Either way, her shares aren't large enough to really matter since the bulk already went to each kid.


Do you contradict me for the sake of contradicting me without checking your facts?

Together, the six Buss children inherited 66 percent of the Lakers via four trusts established by Dr. Buss and his first wife, JoAnn. According to court documents, the trusts state that four of the six Buss children would have to agree to a sale of their interests in the Lakers. That's further complicated, because a percentage of the Buss family shares are in JoAnn's name and cannot be sold until her death.


The onus on Jeanie and Jim only increases further when the day comes that their mother and Jerry’s ex-wife, JoAnn, has to pass down her shares in the team. Those shares will go only to her children, the four eldest (Johnny, Jim, Jeanie and Janie), not the two youngest (Joey and Jesse), according to team sources.


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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#147 » by BEazy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:44 pm

I think that's Janie Buss...I don't think that's Jerry's wife.

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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#148 » by Michael Lucky » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:50 pm

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Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.

Seriously doubt she would foresake her two first Borns. Either way, her shares aren't large enough to really matter since the bulk already went to each kid.


Do you contradict me for the sake of contradicting me without checking your facts?

Together, the six Buss children inherited 66 percent of the Lakers via four trusts established by Dr. Buss and his first wife, JoAnn. According to court documents, the trusts state that four of the six Buss children would have to agree to a sale of their interests in the Lakers. That's further complicated, because a percentage of the Buss family shares are in JoAnn's name and cannot be sold until her death.


The onus on Jeanie and Jim only increases further when the day comes that their mother and Jerry’s ex-wife, JoAnn, has to pass down her shares in the team. Those shares will go only to her children, the four eldest (Johnny, Jim, Jeanie and Janie), not the two youngest (Joey and Jesse), according to team sources.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003567-jeanie-buss-has-supreme-power-to-change-the-lakers-what-will-she-do-and-when

Well unless stated otherwise the siblings can still sell their shares with a 4 out of 6 votes. Her shares can still be sold off at a later date. My biggest point of contention is the idea that she would take sides. Why does she have to? And why would she? Seriously doubt she is going to disown her son's because they want to cash out.
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Post#149 » by Slava » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:52 pm

ScHoolBoy B wrote:I think that's Janie Buss...I don't think that's Jerry's wife.


Actually I think you might be right from what limited pictures I could find of her online. She is supposed to be three years younger than Jeannie yet looks about 20 years older, hence the confusion.
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#150 » by Slava » Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:59 pm

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Seriously doubt she would foresake her two first Borns. Either way, her shares aren't large enough to really matter since the bulk already went to each kid.


Do you contradict me for the sake of contradicting me without checking your facts?

Together, the six Buss children inherited 66 percent of the Lakers via four trusts established by Dr. Buss and his first wife, JoAnn. According to court documents, the trusts state that four of the six Buss children would have to agree to a sale of their interests in the Lakers. That's further complicated, because a percentage of the Buss family shares are in JoAnn's name and cannot be sold until her death.


The onus on Jeanie and Jim only increases further when the day comes that their mother and Jerry’s ex-wife, JoAnn, has to pass down her shares in the team. Those shares will go only to her children, the four eldest (Johnny, Jim, Jeanie and Janie), not the two youngest (Joey and Jesse), according to team sources.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003567-jeanie-buss-has-supreme-power-to-change-the-lakers-what-will-she-do-and-when

Well unless stated otherwise the siblings can still sell their shares with a 4 out of 6 votes. Her shares can still be sold off at a later date. My biggest point of contention is the idea that she would take sides. Why does she have to? And why would she? Seriously doubt she is going to disown her son's because they want to cash out.


Its not "unless stated otherwise", even the most tapped in insiders don't know what percentage she actually owns while you claim that her stake is "small enough to not matter". So the burden of proof falls on you when you bring up something no one has claimed before.

When you subtract the 66% the children own in a trust and the minority stakes of Phil Anschultz, Patrick Soon Shiong and Ed Roski, there's still a substantial amount of ownership stake that's unattributed. Considering that she is Jerry's first wife, she could have received a significant portion of it in divorce. So if she leaves her entire stake to Jeannie & Janie, that tilts the scales a lot in Jeannie's favor, likewise for Jim and Johnny if she for some reason doesn't like her two daughters.
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#151 » by Michael Lucky » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:04 pm

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Do you contradict me for the sake of contradicting me without checking your facts?





http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2003567-jeanie-buss-has-supreme-power-to-change-the-lakers-what-will-she-do-and-when

Well unless stated otherwise the siblings can still sell their shares with a 4 out of 6 votes. Her shares can still be sold off at a later date. My biggest point of contention is the idea that she would take sides. Why does she have to? And why would she? Seriously doubt she is going to disown her son's because they want to cash out.


Its not "unless stated otherwise", even the most tapped in insiders don't know what percentage she actually owns while you claim that her stake is "small enough to not matter". So the burden of proof falls on you when you bring up something no one has claimed before.

When you subtract the 66% the children own in a trust and the minority stakes of Phil Anschultz, Patrick Soon Shiong and Ed Roski, there's still a substantial amount of ownership stake that's unattributed. Considering that she is Jerry's first wife, she could have received a significant portion of it in divorce.

Yes but if that percentage was high enough wouldn't we have known a long time ago that Jerry didn't have majority ownership in the team?
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Post#153 » by Jedi32 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:19 am

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Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.

that lady looks like dr buss in a wig
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Post#154 » by Pointgod » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:21 am

What's this? We'll actually have s gm that's active and aggressive and this is somehow supposed to be a bad thing? Give me this over passive and directionless anyday
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Re: Rob Pelinka to become new Lakers GM 

Post#155 » by Kilroy » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:23 am

Jedi32 wrote:
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Bit of a subtle yet important picture. That's Jerry buss first wife sitting alongside Jeannie who also has individual shares in the Lakers and no one yet knows who she's going to leave it to after her. She seems to be firmly in Jeannie corner too making it harder for Johnny and Jimmy in the future to gain foothold.

that lady looks like dr buss in a wig


It seems like so much of this has nothing to do with the Lakers and everything to do with Jeannie's desire to win the PR battle with her brothers...

It's no different than Dolan calling around to find 'friends' to sit with him court side after the Oak blowup...

It's very 'corporate'...
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Post#156 » by Jedi32 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 2:27 am

you could be right, or it could be that janie didn't like the way things were going and decided to get involved. at the end of the day i hope the family squashes the beef and comes together not only for their family but for the betterment of the team.
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Post#157 » by danfantastk32 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:46 am

Jedi32 wrote:you could be right, or it could be that janie didn't like the way things were going and decided to get involved. at the end of the day i hope the family squashes the beef and comes together not only for their family but for the betterment of the team.


Seriously. Sell the team....keep the team, I don't really care. Just sort it the F** out, get out of this pathetic, suck-a** 17-25 wins per season swamp we've been in.

Jim/Mitch....sorry guys. You had 4 years, and your still at the very bottom. Point to this, point to that....guess what? Welcome to the harsh world of sports. Verdict's in....and you guys sucked. NEXT!

Magic/Rob.....best of luck. The clock's ticking. Sort this mess out, and pronto. I give you 2 seasons to fix, and get into playoffs. After 2 years....I'm disappointed. If your not a playoff team after 3 years, then I DEF want you gone.

Jeanie and the rest: Play the "silence" game please. Do what you guy's need to do....but shut the F up about it already. If you can't, then sell the damn thing, and go your separate ways.
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Post#158 » by Princeinrevolt » Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:50 pm

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Jedi32 wrote:you could be right, or it could be that janie didn't like the way things were going and decided to get involved. at the end of the day i hope the family squashes the beef and comes together not only for their family but for the betterment of the team.


Seriously. Sell the team....keep the team, I don't really care. Just sort it the F** out, get out of this pathetic, suck-a** 17-25 wins per season swamp we've been in.

Jim/Mitch....sorry guys. You had 4 years, and your still at the very bottom. Point to this, point to that....guess what? Welcome to the harsh world of sports. Verdict's in....and you guys sucked. NEXT!

Magic/Rob.....best of luck. The clock's ticking. Sort this mess out, and pronto. I give you 2 seasons to fix, and get into playoffs. After 2 years....I'm disappointed. If your not a playoff team after 3 years, then I DEF want you gone.

Jeanie and the rest: Play the "silence" game please. Do what you guy's need to do....but shut the F up about it already. If you can't, then sell the damn thing, and go your separate ways.

If you're only giving them two years to fix this mess, then you will be disappointed.
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Post#159 » by danfantastk32 » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:01 pm

Princeinrevolt wrote:If you're only giving them two years to fix this mess, then you will be disappointed.


Making the playoffs basically means you don't suck. You don't have to have every facet fixed, to make the playoffs. I mean look at this year!....35 wins aughta get you in, right? It's pathetic. As horrible as this team is, it prob woulda taken little tweaks. Let's say we got the Deng from 2-3 years ago. We mighta made the playoffs. I grant you that we have some bad contract that have 3 years left. Those may not be gone. But the direction should be turned around.....I'll call it "fixed"....and we should be back in the playoffs.

If we have some magic 2008 year where 50 win teams aren't making it, then I'll be a little more lenient. But right now.....sh** we aughta make the playoffs next year.

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