Lonzo Ball shoe sponsorship

[MrCheerios]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

It's risky. Same reason why players play for NBA owners rather than making their own league. Would you rather sign a 300 million dollar shoe deal or put up your NBA salary trying to build a business (while playing an 82 game schedule) that can compete with Nike and Adidas? What's more likely to pay off for you in the long run? You take the guaranteed, stress-free money and run.

Players do have their own businesses interests. Melo has his own clothing line, for example. Kobe invested in Body Armor to compete with Gatorade. Some players have the aptitude for business and become insanely successful like Magic. Others can't be bothered. And same shouldn't even try.

[MrBaynes]

Remember when Jordan came into the league as a rookie and started his own brand of basketball gear? Neither do I.

Just head on over to the Big Baller Brand website, its quite impressive with their $50 generic t-shirts you can make on VistaPrint for $10. Really creative LaVar. Nike, Adidas and UA are shaking in their boots.

[Pinkyring]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

It's risky. Same reason why players play for NBA owners rather than making their own league. Would you rather sign a 300 million dollar shoe deal or put up your NBA salary trying to build a business (while playing an 82 game schedule) that can compete with Nike and Adidas? What's more likely to pay off for you in the long run? You take the guaranteed, stress-free money and run.

Players do have their own businesses interests. Melo has his own clothing line, for example. Kobe invested in Body Armor to compete with Gatorade. Some players have the aptitude for business and become insanely successful like Magic. Others can't be bothered. And same shouldn't even try.

Its only risky when you're a nobody, lebron did 340 million last year in shoes alone, all investing is a risk but let's be honest there's no huge difference from having 200 million career earning and 500 million career earning but launching a shoe company being a billionaire puts you at a different table.

[Pinkyring]

Remember when Jordan came into the league as a rookie and started his own brand of basketball gear? Neither do I.

Just head on over to the Big Baller Brand website, its quite impressive with their $50 generic t-shirts you can make on VistaPrint for $10. Really creative LaVar. Nike, Adidas and UA are shaking in their boots.

What does that have to dinner anything, nba popularity wasn't nearly as high in 83 as it is now, and I'm sure once they start getting nba checks they can upgrade their websites and designs, yall are talking foolish, no one athlete wont scare the brands u mentioned but a collection of athletes would

[RationalGaze]

Lonzo Ballin

[MrCheerios]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

It's risky. Same reason why players play for NBA owners rather than making their own league. Would you rather sign a 300 million dollar shoe deal or put up your NBA salary trying to build a business (while playing an 82 game schedule) that can compete with Nike and Adidas? What's more likely to pay off for you in the long run? You take the guaranteed, stress-free money and run.

Players do have their own businesses interests. Melo has his own clothing line, for example. Kobe invested in Body Armor to compete with Gatorade. Some players have the aptitude for business and become insanely successful like Magic. Others can't be bothered. And same shouldn't even try.

Its only risky when you're a nobody, lebron did 340 million last year in shoes alone, all investing is a risk but let's be honest there's no huge difference from having 200 million career earning and 500 million career earning but launching a shoe company being a billionaire puts you at a different table.

Lebron is one of the most saavy businessmen in the NBA. He's doing fewer endorsements than before and is always looking for ownership stake instead. He owns several of his own businesses, partners with others, and is aiming to be a billionaire. He's been ahead of the game since he was 21. If he doesn't want to compete directly with existing shoe companies, that tells you how hard it is.

[zimpy27]

All Ball

That has to be the name

[Pinkyring]

It's risky. Same reason why players play for NBA owners rather than making their own league. Would you rather sign a 300 million dollar shoe deal or put up your NBA salary trying to build a business (while playing an 82 game schedule) that can compete with Nike and Adidas? What's more likely to pay off for you in the long run? You take the guaranteed, stress-free money and run.

Players do have their own businesses interests. Melo has his own clothing line, for example. Kobe invested in Body Armor to compete with Gatorade. Some players have the aptitude for business and become insanely successful like Magic. Others can't be bothered. And same shouldn't even try.

Its only risky when you're a nobody, lebron did 340 million last year in shoes alone, all investing is a risk but let's be honest there's no huge difference from having 200 million career earning and 500 million career earning but launching a shoe company being a billionaire puts you at a different table.

Lebron is one of the most saavy businessmen in the NBA. He's doing fewer endorsements than before and is always looking for ownership stake instead. He owns several of his own businesses, partners with others, and is aiming to be a billionaire. He's been ahead of the game since he was 21. If he doesn't want to compete directly with existing shoe companies, that tells you how hard it is.

It would take more than one, a hundred million anually in the shoe business is nothing but 4 or 5 guys doing 500 million to a billion annually is a big deal

[MrBaynes]

Remember when Jordan came into the league as a rookie and started his own brand of basketball gear? Neither do I.

Just head on over to the Big Baller Brand website, its quite impressive with their $50 generic t-shirts you can make on VistaPrint for $10. Really creative LaVar. Nike, Adidas and UA are shaking in their boots.

What does that have to dinner anything, nba popularity wasn't nearly as high in 83 as it is now, and I'm sure once they start getting nba checks they can upgrade their websites and designs, yall are talking foolish, no one athlete wont scare the brands u mentioned but a collection of athletes would

Well, "it has to do with anything" because he (Lavar) was making a direct comparison to what his son may do and what Jordan did. I was pointing out that their situations are not the same and it is not an apt analogy. Jordan did not create his own brand, he signed with Nike and eventually his own SUB-BRAND was created, which is either glossed over by Lavar or he is ignorant of it. He also did not do this as a rookie.

The athletic-wear industry was not nearly as complex in 83 as it is now, nor was it nearly as "big-business". To compete with the big players, you need much more than some NBA checks to fund your operation. LaVar Ball and his 1 or 2 NBA children are not going to convince anyone of worth to jump on board as a collective. They simply will not have the startup capital to compete with Under Armour (market capitalization of 16.2 Billion), Nike ( market cap = 75 Billion), or Adidas (market cap = 19 billion). Their production, distribution and marketing networks are world class. They (EDIT: to clarify They is Big Baller Brand) do not own the means of production or the means of distribution, which means their margins will be TINY on anything they sell. As far as I see, they have no human capital on their "team" that would make me believe they are capable of creating a competitive shoe company from scratch. Those NBA rookie checks are not funding design teams, production, distribution and marketing costs while leaving any significant profit for ownership.

There is a reason why Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Curry, Iverson, Wade and everyone else of note did not attempt this. Their business advisers knew the risk, knew the uphill climb they would face and advised them to take hundreds of millions of risk free guaranteed money up front. What if Ball is a bust? What is Ball tears his ACL? What if he doesn't get drafted by LA and his marketing dream is over? Gets stuck on a losing team for YEARS? Nike is still paying him, Big Baller Brand sure as hell is not.

Ball is looking at a David V. Goliath situation, but David got a lobotomy.

[TyCobb]

Let's get all the puns out of the way

Ball force one
The ball pumps
Ball shox
Ball Blazer
Crazy balls
Ball hypersize
Jump Ball
Ball glove

Ball Flights
Ball Zooms
Ball Dunks
And my favorite, Ball Up.

[Ballerhogger]

Let's get all the puns out of the way

Ball force one
The ball pumps
Ball shox
Ball Blazer
Crazy balls
Ball hypersize
Jump Ball
Ball glove

Ball Flights
Ball Zooms
Ball Dunks
And my favorite, Ball Up.

Hard Ball
Fast Ball
Ball Slow

[TyCobb]

Let's get all the puns out of the way

Ball force one
The ball pumps
Ball shox
Ball Blazer
Crazy balls
Ball hypersize
Jump Ball
Ball glove

Ball Flights
Ball Zooms
Ball Dunks
And my favorite, Ball Up.

Hard Ball
Fast Ball
Ball Slow

Ball High

[Ballerhogger]

Ball Flights
Ball Zooms
Ball Dunks
And my favorite, Ball Up.

Hard Ball
Fast Ball
Ball Slow

Ball High

Low Ball

[TyCobb]

Game Ball.

Ball Game.

Alright I'm out man.

[Pinkyring]

Remember when Jordan came into the league as a rookie and started his own brand of basketball gear? Neither do I.

Just head on over to the Big Baller Brand website, its quite impressive with their $50 generic t-shirts you can make on VistaPrint for $10. Really creative LaVar. Nike, Adidas and UA are shaking in their boots.

What does that have to dinner anything, nba popularity wasn't nearly as high in 83 as it is now, and I'm sure once they start getting nba checks they can upgrade their websites and designs, yall are talking foolish, no one athlete wont scare the brands u mentioned but a collection of athletes would

Well, "it has to do with anything" because he (Lavar) was making a direct comparison to what his son may do and what Jordan did. I was pointing out that their situations are not the same and it is not an apt analogy. Jordan did not create his own brand, he signed with Nike and eventually his own SUB-BRAND was created, which is either glossed over by Lavar or he is ignorant of it. He also did not do this as a rookie.

The athletic-wear industry was not nearly as complex in 83 as it is now, nor was it nearly as "big-business". To compete with the big players, you need much more than some NBA checks to fund your operation. LaVar Ball and his 1 or 2 NBA children are not going to convince anyone of worth to jump on board as a collective. They simply will not have the startup capital to compete with Under Armour (market capitalization of 16.2 Billion), Nike ( market cap = 75 Billion), or Adidas (market cap = 19 billion). Their production, distribution and marketing networks are world class. They (EDIT: to clarify They is Big Baller Brand) do not own the means of production or the means of distribution, which means their margins will be TINY on anything they sell. As far as I see, they have no human capital on their "team" that would make me believe they are capable of creating a competitive shoe company from scratch. Those NBA rookie checks are not funding design teams, production, distribution and marketing costs while leaving any significant profit for ownership.

There is a reason why Jordan, LeBron, Kobe, Curry, Iverson, Wade and everyone else of note did not attempt this. Their business advisers knew the risk, knew the uphill climb they would face and advised them to take hundreds of millions of risk free guaranteed money up front. What if Ball is a bust? What is Ball tears his ACL? What if he doesn't get drafted by LA and his marketing dream is over? Gets stuck on a losing team for YEARS? Nike is still paying him, Big Baller Brand sure as hell is not.

Ball is looking at a David V. Goliath situation, but David got a lobotomy.

I agree it can't be now, i mentioned in another post, sign a 5 year deal, build your brand then attempt to do it with other guys, those other guys didnt do it and wont because it's risky, but again thats business, there are a lot of fools that are millionaires but if you're a billionaire snd it wasnt accumulated from inheritance(talking you all waltons) at some point you took a big gamble, we (black people) dont take enough risks in business and that's why we're looked at as inferior by some. Kevin plank (under armor) couldnt even afford toll bills before they got running, look at that company now, do you not think a multimillionaire like lebron couldnt invest in himself and have that kind of market share in 5 years?

[XxIronChainzxX]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

Building a shoe company from the ground up isn't exactly easy. An endorsement is just that - putting your name on a product already designed, with a clear supply chain, etc. If Ball wants to start up his own shoe company, he needs to design a shoe, get a supply chain ready, etc. etc. It's not exactly easy and it's not chump change to do it.

[cpower]

pop the ball-on

[Pinkyring]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

Building a shoe company from the ground up isn't exactly easy. An endorsement is just that - putting your name on a product already designed, with a clear supply chain, etc. If Ball wants to start up his own shoe company, he needs to design a shoe, get a supply chain ready, etc. etc. It's not exactly easy and it's not chump change to do it.

Who said it was easy, anything great is work but the payoff will be a hell of a lot more than just being a slave to brands, people these days want easy money and i hate that, 25 years ago everybody wanted a record deal then a broke master p turned down a million dollar deal to build his own label and only used major labels for distribution, 500 million later, now if you're a hot artist you dont need a record deal, make a ton more independent, these companies rob kids, just like the insurance business, paying an auto premier every month u dont use so they can pocket the money or pay other peoples claims, ridiculous

[sacking123]

Can't wait for a pair of Blue Balls.

This is the funniest post ever...just end every thread
Love your work


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[sacking123]

Everyone here is thinking extremely shallow, ive wondered for years why guys wouldn't do this is, the shoe companies are only what they are because of the athlete endorsements. Picture this, durant got a 10 year 300 million deal from nike, the year before that they sold 300m in kd gear, so why wouldnt the big guns (kd, lebron, harden, westbrook, steph) put up 10m and build their own company, doesn't take that much to build a brand when you already are one. All they are doing is being slaves to corporations, the best designers dont all work from these brands, you can find awesome designers on social media. Do 500 million in sales, then you start signing athletes and build your own business

Because they know that their time will come on retirement too and then what? They signing guys just the same as Nike etc


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