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510TWSS · Post #1861 » by **510TWSS** » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:36 pm

So Fultz declared to the surprise of no one. I haven't done much research into the draft, but the top two guys look like future stars to me in Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball. Lamar is a huge pill, but I really like Lonzo. He looks like Zach LaVine with better BBIQ at 18 and a wet af jump shot. He's a good passer too.

Fultz reminds me of a future Harden just all-world scorer but definitely not a pg because his scoring ability is so good.

If I have a Top-2 pick this spring, i'm sitting pretty cause I wouldn't mind either guy falling to my lap.

and1GS · Post #1862 » by **and1GS** » Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:33 am

510TWSS wrote:So Fultz declared to the surprise of no one. I haven't done much research into the draft, but the top two guys look like future stars to me in Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball. Lamar is a huge pill, but I really like Lonzo. He looks like Zach LaVine with better BBIQ at 18 and a wet af jump shot. He's a good passer too.

Fultz reminds me of a future Harden just all-world scorer but definitely not a pg because his scoring ability is so good.

If I have a Top-2 pick this spring, i'm sitting pretty cause I wouldn't mind either guy falling to my lap.

Wet jumpshot? Have you seen his release?

I like Lonzo, but that release is a massive red flag. Very smart player though so you bet on work ethic and IQ with him.

510TWSS · Post #1863 » by **510TWSS** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:16 am

and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:So Fultz declared to the surprise of no one. I haven't done much research into the draft, but the top two guys look like future stars to me in Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball. Lamar is a huge pill, but I really like Lonzo. He looks like Zach LaVine with better BBIQ at 18 and a wet af jump shot. He's a good passer too.

Fultz reminds me of a future Harden just all-world scorer but definitely not a pg because his scoring ability is so good.

If I have a Top-2 pick this spring, i'm sitting pretty cause I wouldn't mind either guy falling to my lap.

Wet jumpshot? Have you seen his release?

I like Lonzo, but that release is a massive red flag. Very smart player though so you bet on work ethic and IQ with him.

Yeah he shoots sideways from the hip but it's super quick.

He also is shooting well % wise from 3pt range and from well behind the line.

It's kinda like Kevin Martin from Sac, very unorthodox but it gets results.

Pretty smart bbiq from what it looks like. I'd question his defense but he's got quick feet and loads of tools to work with.

The main red flag to me is honestly LaVar. But I'd still draft him with his crazy dad. Makes Klay's dad look meek by comparison.

and1GS · Post #1864 » by **and1GS** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:46 am

510TWSS wrote:
and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:So Fultz declared to the surprise of no one. I haven't done much research into the draft, but the top two guys look like future stars to me in Markelle Fultz and Lonzo Ball. Lamar is a huge pill, but I really like Lonzo. He looks like Zach LaVine with better BBIQ at 18 and a wet af jump shot. He's a good passer too.

Fultz reminds me of a future Harden just all-world scorer but definitely not a pg because his scoring ability is so good.

If I have a Top-2 pick this spring, i'm sitting pretty cause I wouldn't mind either guy falling to my lap.

Wet jumpshot? Have you seen his release?

I like Lonzo, but that release is a massive red flag. Very smart player though so you bet on work ethic and IQ with him.

Yeah he shoots sideways from the hip but it's super quick.

He also is shooting well % wise from 3pt range and from well behind the line.

It's kinda like Kevin Martin from Sac, very unorthodox but it gets results.

Pretty smart bbiq from what it looks like. I'd question his defense but he's got quick feet and loads of tools to work with.

The main red flag to me is honestly LaVar. But I'd still draft him with his crazy dad. Makes Klay's dad look meek by comparison.

Martin is a good comparison. Let's hope he goes more that direction than what happened to Brandon Jennings - just never fixes it and can't really control rhythm of the shot.

A good point I heard brought up on a ringer podcast is that Ball will have trouble pulling up for a J off the dribble because he raises with a hitch. Just makes it easier to predict and potentially get blocked.

If Mychal Thompson is meek compared to LaVar...Where does that leave Draymond's mom :lol:

HiRez · Post #1865 » by **HiRez** » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:39 pm

So Larry Sanders to Cavs. He's a wildcard for sure, hard to tell if he'll help them or hurt them honestly.

510TWSS · Post #1866 » by **510TWSS** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:19 am

and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:
and1GS wrote:
Wet jumpshot? Have you seen his release?

I like Lonzo, but that release is a massive red flag. Very smart player though so you bet on work ethic and IQ with him.

Yeah he shoots sideways from the hip but it's super quick.

He also is shooting well % wise from 3pt range and from well behind the line.

It's kinda like Kevin Martin from Sac, very unorthodox but it gets results.

Pretty smart bbiq from what it looks like. I'd question his defense but he's got quick feet and loads of tools to work with.

The main red flag to me is honestly LaVar. But I'd still draft him with his crazy dad. Makes Klay's dad look meek by comparison.

Martin is a good comparison. Let's hope he goes more that direction than what happened to Brandon Jennings - just never fixes it and can't really control rhythm of the shot.

A good point I heard brought up on a ringer podcast is that Ball will have trouble pulling up for a J off the dribble because he raises with a hitch. Just makes it easier to predict and potentially get blocked.

If Mychal Thompson is meek compared to LaVar...Where does that leave Draymond's mom

LaVar is already doing "research" into making his own shoe brand to go with his Big Baller Brand he created.

He hired a film crew to cover his son's lives in case it gets picked up. Call him a genius or call him insane his son is gonna be a top 5 pick.

I think I heard the same pod, also coach nick has a good breakdown of Fulds and Ball on YouTube. Ball has issues lining himself up when he goes right to pull up. He's either pull up from left or drive to the rack from right.

He's definitely got stuff to work on but the real main drawback doesn't seem to come from him, it's his dad.

and1GS · Post #1867 » by **and1GS** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:53 am

510TWSS wrote:
and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:
Yeah he shoots sideways from the hip but it's super quick.

He also is shooting well % wise from 3pt range and from well behind the line.

It's kinda like Kevin Martin from Sac, very unorthodox but it gets results.

Pretty smart bbiq from what it looks like. I'd question his defense but he's got quick feet and loads of tools to work with.

The main red flag to me is honestly LaVar. But I'd still draft him with his crazy dad. Makes Klay's dad look meek by comparison.

Martin is a good comparison. Let's hope he goes more that direction than what happened to Brandon Jennings - just never fixes it and can't really control rhythm of the shot.

A good point I heard brought up on a ringer podcast is that Ball will have trouble pulling up for a J off the dribble because he raises with a hitch. Just makes it easier to predict and potentially get blocked.

If Mychal Thompson is meek compared to LaVar...Where does that leave Draymond's mom

LaVar is already doing "research" into making his own shoe brand to go with his Big Baller Brand he created.

He hired a film crew to cover his son's lives in case it gets picked up. Call him a genius or call him insane his son is gonna be a top 5 pick.

I think I heard the same pod, also coach nick has a good breakdown of Fulds and Ball on YouTube. Ball has issues lining himself up when he goes right to pull up. He's either pull up from left or drive to the rack from right.

He's definitely got stuff to work on but the real main drawback doesn't seem to come from him, it's his dad.

I think he'll be what people wanted D'Angelo Russell to be. And they may end up as teammates!

Quazza · Post #1868 » by **Quazza** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:22 am

and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:
and1GS wrote:
Martin is a good comparison. Let's hope he goes more that direction than what happened to Brandon Jennings - just never fixes it and can't really control rhythm of the shot.

A good point I heard brought up on a ringer podcast is that Ball will have trouble pulling up for a J off the dribble because he raises with a hitch. Just makes it easier to predict and potentially get blocked.

If Mychal Thompson is meek compared to LaVar...Where does that leave Draymond's mom

LaVar is already doing "research" into making his own shoe brand to go with his Big Baller Brand he created.

He hired a film crew to cover his son's lives in case it gets picked up. Call him a genius or call him insane his son is gonna be a top 5 pick.

I think I heard the same pod, also coach nick has a good breakdown of Fulds and Ball on YouTube. Ball has issues lining himself up when he goes right to pull up. He's either pull up from left or drive to the rack from right.

He's definitely got stuff to work on but the real main drawback doesn't seem to come from him, it's his dad.

I think he'll be what people wanted D'Angelo Russell to be. And they may end up as teammates!

I agree with the call on his release . It's really low

It's pretty much why Dell yanked Steph from his team and re-taught his entire mechanics. Turned out ok for Steph.....

510TWSS · Post #1869 » by **510TWSS** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:03 pm

Quazza wrote:
and1GS wrote:
510TWSS wrote:
LaVar is already doing "research" into making his own shoe brand to go with his Big Baller Brand he created.

He hired a film crew to cover his son's lives in case it gets picked up. Call him a genius or call him insane his son is gonna be a top 5 pick.

I think I heard the same pod, also coach nick has a good breakdown of Fulds and Ball on YouTube. Ball has issues lining himself up when he goes right to pull up. He's either pull up from left or drive to the rack from right.

He's definitely got stuff to work on but the real main drawback doesn't seem to come from him, it's his dad.

I think he'll be what people wanted D'Angelo Russell to be. And they may end up as teammates!

I agree with the call on his release . It's really low

It's pretty much why Dell yanked Steph from his team and re-taught his entire mechanics. Turned out ok for Steph.....

This is funny to me, but what if Lonzo is like a rich man's Austin Rivers? lol

and1GS · Post #1870 » by **and1GS** » Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:53 pm

510TWSS wrote:
Quazza wrote:
and1GS wrote:
I think he'll be what people wanted D'Angelo Russell to be. And they may end up as teammates!

I agree with the call on his release . It's really low

It's pretty much why Dell yanked Steph from his team and re-taught his entire mechanics. Turned out ok for Steph.....

This is funny to me, but what if Lonzo is like a rich man's Austin Rivers? lol

IMO we've seen enough of Austin for a lifetime, no need to reincarnate him.

Coxy · Post #1871 » by **Coxy** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 12:47 am

What you guys think of Richaun Holmes in Philly? He looks like he's going to have a great backup sort of career, with an absolute max out potential of a Paul Millsap type. Wish we nabbed him before his breakout somehow.

watch1958 · Post #1872 » by **watch1958** » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:21 pm

Coxy wrote:What you guys think of Richaun Holmes in Philly? He looks like he's going to have a great backup sort of career, with an absolute max out potential of a Paul Millsap type. Wish we nabbed him before his breakout somehow.

Yeah, like drafting him instead of Looney. On the Philly board earlier this year, when they still had all the centers, there was talk of trying to trade him for McCaw.

I'd love to have him playing with a small lineup. They could use him on offense like they do Javale, and he could handle switching on the perimeter decently I think.

StepBackCrack · Post #1873 » by **StepBackCrack** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:17 pm

Read on Twitter

lol at this article. Stats are more important than winning I guess.

BG · Post #1874 » by BG » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:56 pm

i think royce young was the only person acting more childish than russel himself after KD left OKC, so an article like this is no surprise i guess

Mylie10 · Post #1875 » by **Mylie10** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:23 am

Sanders to the D league lol

While it might be good for him, it still makes me chuckle. And Boston is close to catching them. And while I don't wish injury on anyone...since it happened already, I'm glad Bogut was wearing a Cavs jersey when it happened, lol.

Post #1876 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:50 am

KD_Steph wrote:

Read on Twitter

lol at this article. Stats are more important than winning I guess.

I'm still convinced he's gone by the time his deal is up. Either by trade or he straight up leaves (OKC) in free agency. I certainly am looking forward to that day lol. :wink:

Coxy · Post #1877 » by **Coxy** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:11 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
KD_Steph wrote:

Read on Twitter

lol at this article. Stats are more important than winning I guess.

I'm still convinced he's gone by the time his deal is up. Either by trade or he straight up leaves (OKC) in free agency. I certainly am looking forward to that day lol.

I'm not. OKC fans don't really deserve to be belted again by their franchise player bolting them.

Post #1878 » by **Cactus Jack** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:35 am

Coxy wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
KD_Steph wrote:

Read on Twitter

lol at this article. Stats are more important than winning I guess.

I'm still convinced he's gone by the time his deal is up. Either by trade or he straight up leaves (OKC) in free agency. I certainly am looking forward to that day lol.

I'm not. OKC fans don't really deserve to be belted again by their franchise player bolting them.

Spoiler:

The-Power · Post #1879 » by **The-Power** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:03 pm

Coxy wrote:I'm not. OKC fans don't really deserve to be belted again by their franchise player bolting them.

Considering how they treated Durant when he came back - and I don't mean the booing - some absolutely do. But yeah, I don't wish it on them and frankly couldn't care less what happens with Westbrook after his current deal. Staying, leaving, retiring - whatever he wants to do.

Coxy · Post #1880 » by **Coxy** » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:25 pm

Was just looking through he league leading season stats for all players, and just noticed the turnovers per game for Westbrook and Harden. Steph averages a shade over 3 turnovers per game, and think about how frustrated we get with his behind the back turnovers. Well, imagine Steph turned the ball over 5.78 times per game, which is what Harden is averaging. Wetsook just behind him at 5.36 per game.

Those 2 are turning the ball over at an all time historic rate. Quite comical.