Some underrated FA targets..

[DET_Athletics]

Actually I have and you're wrong, and have been in every post you try to explain how the Pistons can't go over the cap to sign Baynes. Otherwise LeBron James wouldn't have been able to resign in Cleveland (no Miami didn't sign and trade him, are you serious?), and Durant won't be able to resign in Golden State once he opts out this summer. You should actually research Bird rights when discussing them.

well im glad i have a fan, didnt know what that was like till now. but i have done the research, and im not going to do more research efforts for this argument. if you wish to post what "you know" about it, then we can talk about that.

Cool story bro. "I was wrong" could've saved you a lot of meaningless words you typed.

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )

"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...

Maximum cap space we can create without trades= Detroit $4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,
you seriously wasted 5 minutes of my life that i wont get back, worse fan ever...

[BadMofoPimp]

well im glad i have a fan, didnt know what that was like till now. but i have done the research, and im not going to do more research efforts for this argument. if you wish to post what "you know" about it, then we can talk about that.

Technically, the Pistons could go over the cap to resign Baynes if they wanted to. Just sign Bayens first then go over the cap to resign KCP.

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

[BadMofoPimp]

Technically, the Pistons could go over the cap to resign Baynes if they wanted to. Just sign Bayens first then go over the cap to resign KCP.

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

#DropsMic

[Pharaoh]

FFS! Ricky Rubio - not a free agent but he deserves the #dropsmic #pipebomb crapola going on here

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[DetroitSho]

well im glad i have a fan, didnt know what that was like till now. but i have done the research, and im not going to do more research efforts for this argument. if you wish to post what "you know" about it, then we can talk about that.

Cool story bro. "I was wrong" could've saved you a lot of meaningless words you typed.

im not saying that, you still havent gone on record about any facts regarding bird rights, just saying.

Are you dense? You seriously think the only way to go the cap to resign a free agent is full Bird Rights? I've provided you actual examples in LeBron and Durant but you choose ignorance (claiming to not know about Cleveland's WELL DOCUMENTED salary situation and speculating that Miami traded LeBron to Cleveland) as a defense. Full Bird rights comes after playing for 3 years without being waived. Then you have non Bird rights after 1 year (see Kevin Durant this summer). And early Bird rights after 2 years (see Aron f'ing Baynes).

Simply stated, the Pistons will have the ability to go over the cap to resign Baynes starting around $11 million in the first year. Stop stating otherwise.

#drops mic

[Pharaoh]

Can one of you please post the link to the relevant section on Larry Coon's FAQ site that relates to Early Bird free agents?

If you both search for the link then maybe you could both post it

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[DET_Athletics]

Technically, the Pistons could go over the cap to resign Baynes if they wanted to. Just sign Bayens first then go over the cap to resign KCP.

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

thats a big assumption, the only contracts that are up this offseason is bullock and KCP? and i doubt we trade anyone we signed last offseason.

[DET_Athletics]

Technically, the Pistons could go over the cap to resign Baynes if they wanted to. Just sign Bayens first then go over the cap to resign KCP.

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

you only make move when there are better options out there, since you want to speculate, who is getting trade and who are we picking up, or does your crystal ball not see that far into the future?

[BadMofoPimp]

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

thats a big assumption, the only contracts that are up this offseason is bullock and KCP? and i doubt we trade anyone we signed last offseason.

You never know when someone is about to be moved with SVG. It just happens. Baynes could easily be kept is what I am saying even with a pay raise.

[BadMofoPimp]

" To qualify as a Bird free agent, a player must have played three seasons without being waived or changing teams as a free agent."( https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS732US732&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=nba+bird+rights&* )
"The deal will contain a player option after year two, according to Stein. He reports that it could be worth as much as $20 million."(July 2nd, 2015, http://www.si.com/nba/2015/07/02/detroit-pistons-aron-baynes-deal-free-agency-grades-san-antonio-spurs# )
he opts out after year 2, never plays the third season so we dont have his bird rights...
Maximum cap sapce we can create without trades= Detroit

$4,570,001

actual projected:Detroit (22,270,917)

#DropsMic,

FYI, you are looking at things as if the Pistons will make NO moves and roster stands as is. Players can be traded to create room. There will be roster moves.

you only make move when there are better options out there, since you want to speculate, who is getting trade and who are we picking up, or does your crystal ball not see that far into the future?

Wait, I thought we were debating the Pistons being able to sign Baynes. As far as roster moves, just wait and see what happens as SVG can be creative.

[tmorgan]

Why any of you are talking into a mic while typing on a keyboard is beyond me.