Offseason Thread: Perry/Bennett/Kendricks

[bdpecore]

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If you're going to hang your hat on the "draft and develop" thing this is less than ideal.

No need to continue paying for your original mistake in an attempt to save face. At least Ted has the discipline and balls to walk away when the price doesn't match the production.

True, but when you use the draft and develop philosophy to build your roster you can't afford to have some many draft picks walk. Very little room for error this year.

We tend to have a bit more wiggle room then most teams since we also do a great job developing UDFA like Elliott who will likely be taking Jones' snaps.


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[Turk Nowitzki]

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If you're going to hang your hat on the "draft and develop" thing this is less than ideal.

No need to continue paying for your original mistake in an attempt to save face. At least Ted has the discipline and balls to walk away when the price doesn't match the production.

True, but when you use the draft and develop philosophy to build your roster you can't afford to have some many draft picks walk. Very little room for error this year.

Yeah, I'm pretty ok with our decisions on letting those players walk, just pointing out it's not great execution on your strategy when your draft class from 3 years ago is all but gone.

[ReasonablySober]

Gonna be curious to see what Jones signed for. He's a guy I wanted back.

[Iheartfootball]

No need to continue paying for your original mistake in an attempt to save face. At least Ted has the discipline and balls to walk away when the price doesn't match the production.

True, but when you use the draft and develop philosophy to build your roster you can't afford to have some many draft picks walk. Very little room for error this year.

We tend to have a bit more wiggle room then most teams since we also do a great job developing UDFA like Elliott who will likely be taking Jones' snaps.


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Agreed. I updated my post to reflect that. The list of UDFA's from 2013 wasn't glowing though. Did get Taylor which is pretty good. Mulumba, Stoneburner, and White all played a few years as well.

[Cactus Jack]

Hawks fan, wanted to drop by & get your take on Lacy. Seems to be a good fit in Seattle. Your thoughts?

[bdpecore]

True, but when you use the draft and develop philosophy to build your roster you can't afford to have some many draft picks walk. Very little room for error this year.

We tend to have a bit more wiggle room then most teams since we also do a great job developing UDFA like Elliott who will likely be taking Jones' snaps.


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Agreed. I updated my post to reflect that. The list of UDFA's from 2013 wasn't glowing though. Did get Taylor which is pretty good. Mulumba, Stoneburner, and White all played a few years as well.

Nice update. To me it's a toss up between Jones and Elliott. Jones is a bit more versatile but Elliott seems more apt to make plays. So I guess it all comes down to what Jones got paid and what we do with the money saved from letting him walk.

[Iheartfootball]

Hawks fan, wanted to drop by & get your take on Lacy. Seems to be a good fit in Seattle. Your thoughts?

He likes China food so he upgraded there.

He's got talent, good north/south runner (for some reason the Packers got him outside too often). If you guys have your line fixed he will be okay. Unless he eats up all the China food. Then you're in for injuries and/or lots of sideline rest at the end of games. He needs conditioning to be effective come the latter part of the season.

I like Lacy, hate the Hawks. Hope he has a great season and you guys miss the playoffs?

[bizarro]

Hawks fan, wanted to drop by & get your take on Lacy. Seems to be a good fit in Seattle. Your thoughts?

He's a decent back when motivated, in shape, and focus - decent but limited - but regardless of what Carrol says, his weight is a big issue. He got cut in last year's off-season by working out with Tony Horton (?) but had gained the weight back by the early season. It affects his ability to hit holes, break away (where he consistently is caught from behind), and stay healthy - he's ended season's early due to lingering injuries. He also has some concussion history. Is he truly motivated to be a dominant NFL player? I don't think so. He's a great guy, from all impressions, and a fun personality. However, when you can't stay healthy due to ongoing weight issues and you aren't really a threat catching passes from the backfield, you're really looking at a classic big back who should have a very limited role.

[Kerb Hohl]

It's pretty crazy that every Wilde, McGinn, etc. tweet is followed with 50 "what are they doing this offseason?" replies.

I'd have liked to have Jones and Hyde back cheap and of course Lang/Tretter are good players. In all cases (Jones TBD), given replaceable position or player, I have zero problem with any of these guys leaving.

[Iheartfootball]

We tend to have a bit more wiggle room then most teams since we also do a great job developing UDFA like Elliott who will likely be taking Jones' snaps.


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Agreed. I updated my post to reflect that. The list of UDFA's from 2013 wasn't glowing though. Did get Taylor which is pretty good. Mulumba, Stoneburner, and White all played a few years as well.

Nice update. To me it's a toss up between Jones and Elliott. Jones is a bit more versatile but Elliott seems more apt to make plays. So I guess it all comes down to what Jones got paid and what we do with the money saved from letting him walk.

They both are kind of 'meh' to me. I want an upgrade. I hope they find it in the draft but I'm not holding my breath. Those type of guys aren't easy to find.

Maybe in this second wave of FA's TT will find something. Who knows?

[bdpecore]

It's pretty crazy that every Wilde, McGinn, etc. tweet is followed with 50 "what are they doing this offseason?" replies.

I'd have liked to have Jones and Hyde back cheap and of course Lang/Tretter are good players. In all cases (Jones TBD), given replaceable position or player, I have zero problem with any of these guys leaving.

Of the players who left, to me, Hyde is the one they will miss the most due to his versatility in the secondary. Otherwise no one was irreplaceable. I still reserve my final judgement on this offseason until I see who else we sign and/or draft.

[Kerb Hohl]

Datone's contract very similar to Lacy's. 1-year, 3.75 mm guaranteed, up to 5 mm.

[bdpecore]

Datone's contract very similar to Lacy's. 1-year, 3.75 mm guaranteed, up to 5 mm.

I was hoping for something closer to $3-4MM total but it still seems fair based on his age and the fact he was a former first round pick.

[El Duderino]

We tend to have a bit more wiggle room then most teams since we also do a great job developing UDFA like Elliott who will likely be taking Jones' snaps.

I hope not.

Elliot is a very good special teams guy, fringe player at best as an OLB. I only want him getting a bunch of snaps on defense in an absolute emergency because injuries strike at one time.

It would help a ton if Fackrell after an offseason in the weight room and honing his skills can contribute quite a bit this year because depth at OLB for now at least is paper thin and he was a 3rd round pick. Can't have another draft bust on defense.

[rilamann]

Hawks fan, wanted to drop by & get your take on Lacy. Seems to be a good fit in Seattle. Your thoughts?

I've always been high on Lacy and have been saying for years that if you put Eddie Lacy on a team and with a head coach that actually knows how to utilize his talents/skills (The Packers were clueless in this regard) he could be a big time impact player.I think Lacy will finally have that chance with Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks.Other than Seattle's offensive line being suspect I think the Seahawks are a great fit for Lacy.


Now obviously the big question is,will Eddie Lacy show up in August in shape and ready to play some serious football and be the impact player he was in Green Bay back in the 2014 season.

If you guys get the in the shape 2014 version of Lacy your chances of of representing the NFC in Super Bowl 52 just improved dramatically.

I'm nervous that not re-signing Lacy could potentially bite the Packers in the ass big time.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Gonna be curious to see what Jones signed for. He's a guy I wanted back.

I wanted him back and would have been fine paying him $3.5m. But not exactly crying myself to sleep over it. Packers need to challenge themselves to get better on d and hopefully his snaps go to someone whos an upgrade.

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[Turk Nowitzki]

Hawks fan, wanted to drop by & get your take on Lacy. Seems to be a good fit in Seattle. Your thoughts?

He's so **** talented if he ever got in shape he would a total monster. Good luck with that, the Packers never found a way.

The fact that he was even a decent to good NFL RB at the size was playing at is a credit to his talent. Also I'm guessing your coach won't be dumb enough to run toss sweeps and other dumb plays that have him trying to get to the edge like McCarthy did.

[MickeyDavis]

Hard to blame MM too much for not knowing how to use him when he shows up fat and out of shape IN HIS CONTRACT YEAR.

Nobody complained about MM's usage in 2014 when Lacy was in decent shape.

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[emunney]

Lacy had a really bad ankle injury last year, had a toe fused at Alabama, and is huge. Just doesn't seem like a good bet to me. We know how joint fusions stress adjacent joints and we know how being overweight stresses joints and we know how being an NFL running back stresses everything. I really don't understand him getting that kind of offer, other than the 1 year part.