WWE WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017)

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WWE WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#1 » by iMoreland » Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:51 am

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1. Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal
2. Cruiserweight Championship: Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries
3. Intercontinental Championship: Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin

WrestleMania 33:

1. AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon
2. United States Championship: Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens
3. Raw Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks
4. Raw Tag Team Championships Ladder Match: Karl Anderson and Luke Gallows (c) vs. Big Cass and Enzo Amore vs. The Bar vs. The Hardy Boys
5. John Cena and Nikki Bella vs. Maryse and The Miz
6. Unsanctioned Match: Seth Rollins vs. Triple H w/ Stephanie McMahon
7. WWE Championship: Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton
8. Universal Championship: Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar w/ Paul Heyman
9. SmackDown Women's Championship: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. Becky Lynch vs. Carmella vs. Mickie James vs. Natalya vs. Naomi
10. Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#2 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:40 pm

Aries/Neville and KO/Jericho are compelling and should be great. Could not care less about the rest of the card.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#3 » by Dunthreevy » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:14 pm

I'm interested in the following matches:

Aries vs. Neville
Ambrose vs. Corbin (not because of the build but because I like Corbin and feel like he's being built the right way)
Jericho vs. Owens
Smackdown Women's title match (because I think Asuka debuts there)
AJ vs. Shane (because they've done a slow build and last night really hooked me. AJ can carry Shane to an entertaining match)
Rollins vs. HHH
Cena & Nikki vs. The Mizanins (because the story has been told well)


That's 50% of the matches, so I'm looking forward to Mania.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#4 » by 2009NBAChamps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:04 pm

On paper, with the exception of the main event, and Shane/AJ, the matches are fairly compelling.

Story line leaves a lot to be desired from them in general though.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#5 » by Flames24Rulz » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:18 pm

I can't believe this is in less than 3 weeks. Sure doesn't feel like it.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#6 » by studcrackers » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:23 pm

2009NBAChamps wrote:On paper, with the exception of the main event, and Shane/AJ, the matches are fairly compelling.

Story line leaves a lot to be desired from them in general though.


I think the AJ/Shane story went up a bunch of notches last night.

I'm looking forward to most the matches and have enjoyed a decent amount of the stories
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#7 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:11 am

Dunthreevy wrote:Smackdown Women's title match (because I think Asuka debuts there)


Good catch on that, easy to insert someone into that match like Asuka.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#8 » by LittleOzzy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:13 am

I'm pretty interested in most of the matches, just not Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker

Taker is done, and Roman can't carry the match on his own. I have a feeling it will be a real dud. Brock vs. Goldberg will be short too so hard to look forward to that.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#9 » by Rhettmatic » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:35 am

LittleOzzy wrote:I'm pretty interested in most of the matches, just not Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker

Taker is done, and Roman can't carry the match on his own. I have a feeling it will be a real dud. Brock vs. Goldberg will be short too so hard to look forward to that.


Yeah I don't care about Brock-Goldberg either, but I actually think Roman-Taker could wind up pretty great. If Taker can go at least as much as Big Show -- whom I thought Reigns carried to a great, hard-hitting match at Extreme Rules last year -- that plus the white-hot anti-Reigns crowd could lead to something pretty memorable.

But if he still moves like he did at the Rumble we could be in for a dud.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#10 » by improper » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:05 am

Rhettmatic wrote:Yeah I don't care about Brock-Goldberg either, but I actually think Roman-Taker could wind up pretty great. If Taker can go at least as much as Big Show -- whom I thought Reigns carried to a great, hard-hitting match at Extreme Rules last year -- that plus the white-hot anti-Reigns crowd could lead to something pretty memorable.

But if he still moves like he did at the Rumble we could be in for a dud.


I worry more if the match is just a straight one on one with no stipulations, because those always seem to be the worst Reigns matches. His limited offense really stands out in those types of matches, whereas when there are stipulations involved they can mask that with weapons and crazy table spots and such.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#11 » by iMoreland » Thu Mar 16, 2017 6:09 am

Reigns has had great match after great match yet people still think he's incapable of wrestling. His character is his only weakness. His promos are getting more and more solid every time he talks and his ring work is amazing.

If Reigns wrestled on the indies like Ambrose or Rollins he'd be universally praised for his work.

It's Cena all over again. Cena's been a great wrestler for 10+ years yet people failed to realize.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#12 » by improper » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:32 am

iMoreland wrote:Reigns has had great match after great match yet people still think he's incapable of wrestling. His character is his only weakness. His promos are getting more and more solid every time he talks and his ring work is amazing.

If Reigns wrestled on the indies like Ambrose or Rollins he'd be universally praised for his work.

It's Cena all over again. Cena's been a great wrestler for 10+ years yet people failed to realize.


He's had a lot of great stipulation matches, but I've found his regular matches to be largely underwhelming. The main problem is that, like Cena in his prime, he only does about four or five moves per match. Every damn match is just him spamming the superman punch a dozen times with the occasional Samoan drop or drive-by sprinkled in before he spears his way to victory. There was a time when he seemed to be adding new moves to his repertoire (that crucifix powerbomb was cool), but that time seems to have passed and he's actually regressed it seems. I assume Vince told him he was being too ostentatious out there or something.

Again, I don't think he's incapable of wrestling. I just find his matches to often be, like Cena's, boring because of how predictable they are. He also doesn't sell well at all, which is another thing he learned from Cena. He'll be getting the crap beat out of him all match only to suddenly be fine when it's time to drop a couple of superman punches and spear for the win.

If Reigns wrestled in the indies, I'd expect he'd have learned a lot of extra moves and, thus, his regular one-on-one matches would be better. Ambrose, by the way, has gotten a lot of flack for how lazy he's gotten over the past year. I've been highly critical of him for ages now. His move set sucks, that middle rope rebound clothesline is the worst move in wrestling, and the dude hasn't had a great match in forever. I'd take Reigns over him all day every day right now if we're solely judging by in-ring performance. Ambrose is a much better talker and has more charisma, though. Reigns has the charisma of a particularly uncharismatic bag of wet dog sh*t, though, so that's not exactly a monumental accomplishment.

As for Cena, I think saying he's been a great wrestler for ten years is a bit of a stretch. Five years? Sure. But ten? I don't know, man. Personally, I think Cena really hit his stride in the ring during his US Championship open challenge a year or two ago. Prior to that, he was a good big match guy (although, again, his matches often fell into the same finisher-fest formula that he still relies on), but his week to week work wasn't great.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#13 » by 2009NBAChamps » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:04 pm

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2009NBAChamps wrote:On paper, with the exception of the main event, and Shane/AJ, the matches are fairly compelling.

Story line leaves a lot to be desired from them in general though.


I think the AJ/Shane story went up a bunch of notches last night.

I'm looking forward to most the matches and have enjoyed a decent amount of the stories


My main gripe is misusing AJ for where he could really put on a show against a legit wrestler. Love Shane, but just don't have the same amount of excitement for this as I would with just about any other matchup AJ could have been slotted in.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#14 » by Dunthreevy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:37 pm

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studcrackers wrote:
2009NBAChamps wrote:On paper, with the exception of the main event, and Shane/AJ, the matches are fairly compelling.

Story line leaves a lot to be desired from them in general though.


I think the AJ/Shane story went up a bunch of notches last night.

I'm looking forward to most the matches and have enjoyed a decent amount of the stories


My main gripe is misusing AJ for where he could really put on a show against a legit wrestler. Love Shane, but just don't have the same amount of excitement for this as I would with just about any other matchup AJ could have been slotted in.


As X-Pac said recently, AJ having a spot with Shane at Mania is one of the biggest matches he could have. It's not going to be some wrestling clinic but it's a huge spot for AJ and shows that Vince has a ton of faith in him.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#15 » by Wo1verine » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 pm

Goldberg vs. Lesnar
Taker vs. POS
Shane vs. Styles. Hopefully Shane does some crazy stunt.
Rollins vs. HHH

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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#16 » by studcrackers » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:16 pm

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2009NBAChamps wrote:On paper, with the exception of the main event, and Shane/AJ, the matches are fairly compelling.

Story line leaves a lot to be desired from them in general though.


I think the AJ/Shane story went up a bunch of notches last night.

I'm looking forward to most the matches and have enjoyed a decent amount of the stories


My main gripe is misusing AJ for where he could really put on a show against a legit wrestler. Love Shane, but just don't have the same amount of excitement for this as I would with just about any other matchup AJ could have been slotted in.


Oh definitely. AJ is the MVP of the company the last year and I think he should've closed the show. I'd have put off Cena/AJ til mania instead of the rumble
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#17 » by pduh01 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:20 pm

For me the matches I'm looking forward to the most are...

Roman Regins vs Undertaker

I admit that I am concerned Taker can pull off a good match because of his health on paper his have potential wondering if Vince finally decided to turn Roman heel. I have my doubts though

KO vs Chris Jericho

Seth/Triple H segment or a match if Seth is ready by then interesting how this transpire at WM.

Neville vs Aries if they give those two some time this could be a very good match

AJ Styles vs Shane McMahon

Smackdown Woman Championship match I wonder if other past Divas may show up like a one time deal someone like Lita or possible a return like Kelly Kelly or the debut of Askua

Ortiz vs Bray because the story and did a great job building this up.

Those are the matches I'm looking forward the most.
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#18 » by iMoreland » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:01 am

Gonna take a shot at predicting the match order and winners...

1P. Cruiserweight Championship: Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries
2P. André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal, Winner: Braun Strowman
3P. SmackDown Women's Championship: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. "Every Available Woman on SmackDown Live"

1. Raw Tag Team Championships Ladder Match: Gallows and Anderson (c) vs. Cesaro and Sheamus vs. Enzo and Cass
2. Intercontinental Championship: Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin
3. AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon
4. Seth Rollins vs. Triple H (with Stephanie McMahon)
5. Raw Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte Flair vs. Nia Jax vs. Sasha Banks
6. John Cena and Nikki Bella vs. Maryse and The Miz
7. United States Championship: Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens
8. Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker
9. WWE Championship: Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton
10. Universal Championship: Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman)
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#19 » by Spens1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:08 am

• Cruiserweight Championship: Neville (c) vs. Austin Aries

• SmackDown Tag Team Championships: American Alpha (c) vs. The Uso's

• Raw Tag Team Championships: Gallows and Anderson (c) vs. Cesaro and Sheamus vs. Enzo and Cass

• Intercontinental Championship: Dean Ambrose (c) vs. Baron Corbin

• United States Championship: Chris Jericho (c) vs. Kevin Owens

• SmackDown Women's Championship: Alexa Bliss (c) vs. "Every Available Woman on SmackDown Live" (*cough*Asuka*cough)

• Raw Women's Championship: Bayley (c) vs. Charlotte vs. Sasha Banks

• André the Giant Memorial Battle Royal (Strowman)

AJ Styles vs. Shane McMahon

John Cena and Nikki Bella vs. Maryse and The Miz

Seth Rollins vs. Triple H (with Stephanie McMahon)

Roman Reigns vs. The Undertaker

• WWE Championship: Bray Wyatt (c) vs. Randy Orton

• Universal Championship: Goldberg (c) vs. Brock Lesnar (with Paul Heyman)
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Re: WrestleMania 33 (April 2nd, 2017) 

Post#20 » by Shemy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:54 am

yes shane being in match against AJ kinda sucks, but at the same time as safi? said its a "big name" match cause its shane mcmahon and AJ deserves a big match at WM, maybe it shows that vince and co. buy into him, think meltzer apparently said that AJ will be moving to RAW during the draft and plan on building the show around him
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