GT: Mavericks vs Nets - Sunday, 03/19/17 12:00pm

[Ror1997]

This is getting bad. Its getting to the point where it seems like 75% of lin fans can't rationally think, and its pissing off everyone, including the cool lin fans. Something has gotta be done.

[13th Man]

Lin has never been injury prone until this year. Net's fans should be screaming about the performance team for limiting a players playing time in SECONDS not minutes.

Nobody is screaming about the performance team except you. Please quit blaming everybody else for Lin's woes. Lin sprained his ankle, got taken out of the game for precautionary measures. There's no conspiracy to limit his minutes, they're doing what they feel is best for him and for the team.

When they rushed him back earlier in the season, he got hurt not once but twice. Why would they dare to make the same mistake again? Geeezz....

Question is why are people not screaming about them? When you have to wait 42 seconds to put someone back in the game so they don't go over their allotted minutes then you have a serious problem.

You tell me if it made sense for KA to not put Lin in when there was a stoppage of play at 6:42 but send him to the scorers table with 6:00 left? As a result of this he did not get back in the game for about 4 minutes. Please explain to me why it made sense.

Cause that was from the Celtics game and has been debated to death. That thread turned ugly, do we really want to revisit that argument?

[Alpha 001]

I don't know whether Lin could have shaken off the ankle sprain and come back today. My opinion is that it didn't look serious and on any other team he would have at least tried to come back. My problem with the performance team is not about this game but based upon watching the team all season. They set up a rigid number of minutes before the game that is the max for that player. Then that number of minutes is rigidly adhered to by KA. I'm not against limiting players minutes based upon their condition, injuries etc. but there has to be some leeway. THIS IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. For example if KA was not so hampered by having to play Lin EXACTLY a certain number of minutes then Lin would have returned against the Celtics with 6:42 left in the game. Instead Kenny had to keep Lin out another 42 SECONDS so that he wouldn't go over his alloted minutes by 42 SECONDS. This kind of rigid, non-scientific nonsense has to end or it won't matter if you get 3 first rounders for Brook the team will always lose.

Why would a coach or anyone want Lin to return to a meaningless game in a lost season to play through injury and pain?
Didn't some fans awhile back question why Lin was left in a game after spraining his ankle that later led to reinjuring his hammy?

[JayJayFor3]

So is Lin injury not serious since I see some debating whether they should had brought him back and keeping him out was simply being conservative.

Keeping him out was the right call. A weakness in the ankle could easily transcend to the calves, knees, hamstrings. 3 quarters of Lin stats is not more important than the risk of him getting hurt for the rest of the season.

The second time Lin pulled his hamstring was exactly like you described earlier in the season. He kind of twisted his ankle first but was not very serious, he decided to stay in the game and probably over compensated and pull his hamstring again in the same game and out for long time.

[Pistolpete1947]

Why do you have to blame the nets for something you dont like? Lin is injury prone. Just because He's your favorite player doesn't mean He's immune to criticism. Stop blaming the nets for something you dont like. You're on a nets board not a lin board. Have some respect for the net fans.

Lin has never been injury prone until this year. Net's fans should be screaming about the performance team for limiting a players playing time in SECONDS not minutes.

The performance team correctly identified a player as a injury risk, and you're mad at them?

Dude. Your favorite player got injured. Deal with it. Don't act like an over protective mother, who wants to blame everybody else for her child's faults. Suck it up.

As I stated it's not this game but the whole season that I'm concerned with. It started with "resting" Brook the 3rd game of the season which we lost at the buzzer. All season it's been like that not just for Lin but for all players. I'm amazed that people on this board aren't realizing at this point that the Nets have a serious problem going forward with micro-managing player's minutes. There is NO scientific basis to say someone should play 24 minutes instead of 25.

[pastis]

very lame game. We just won because JJ Barea hit 4 straigth clutch buckets in the fourth. Unfortunatelly he will be MIA for the next 3-5 games - like always. Oh and yea 39 year old Dirk with 23 points. Oh well, Mavs just suck. Bad luck for the nets that Lin got injured. Lin would have easily outplayed YOGI and JJ.

[Paradise]

A video revealed that Lin was tripped on the play he sprained his ankle. So much for the "Lin is careless" judgement.

It was a terrible shot attempt in the first place. What's wrong with acknowledging he gets careless with the ball and sometimes forces things?


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[Pistolpete1947]

A video revealed that Lin was tripped on the play he sprained his ankle. So much for the "Lin is careless" judgement.

It was a terrible shot attempt in the first place. What's wrong with acknowledging he gets careless with the ball and sometimes forces things?


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Of course he makes bonehead plays like everyone. You implied it's something he does all the time which is why he got injured. I'm pointing out that he was tripped and that led to the injury not his "carelessness". You also stated Lin is injury prone which is not true (until he came to the Nets).

[milankovich]

So is Lin injury not serious since I see some debating whether they should had brought him back and keeping him out was simply being conservative.

Keeping him out was the right call. A weakness in the ankle could easily transcend to the calves, knees, hamstrings. 3 quarters of Lin stats is not more important than the risk of him getting hurt for the rest of the season.

The second time Lin pulled his hamstring was exactly like you described earlier in the season. He kind of twisted his ankle first but was not very serious, he decided to stay in the game and probably over compensated and pull his hamstring again in the same game and out for long time.

Agree with you. Team made right decision to protect player in this situation.

I feel bad for the Nets and Lin. Bad luck after bad luck. I will predict that Lin misses a week. Will not play without min limit for the rest of the season.

Hopefully things get better in the future.

[hood30]

I think it's probably time to shut down Lin for the rest of the season if it means keeping him on a 15 minute restriction the rest of the way....Lin already know the MO offense and guys like Goodwin and Daniel could use the extra free minutes.

[Pistolpete1947]

I think it's probably time to shut down Lin for the rest of the season if it means keeping him on a 15 minute restriction the rest of the way....Lin already know the MO offense and guys like Goodwin and Daniel could use the extra free minutes.

I hope they shut him down and trade him. Can't take the micro-management of minutes anymore.

[Ror1997]

I think it's probably time to shut down Lin for the rest of the season if it means keeping him on a 15 minute restriction the rest of the way....Lin already know the MO offense and guys like Goodwin and Daniel could use the extra free minutes.

I hope they shut him down and trade him. Can't take the micro-management of minutes anymore.

So then stop posting on a nets forum if you dont have any positive opinions on the nets. Nobody wants to read your anti net commentary.

[Pistolpete1947]

I think it's probably time to shut down Lin for the rest of the season if it means keeping him on a 15 minute restriction the rest of the way....Lin already know the MO offense and guys like Goodwin and Daniel could use the extra free minutes.

I hope they shut him down and trade him. Can't take the micro-management of minutes anymore.

So then stop posting on a nets forum if you dont have any positive opinions on the nets. Nobody wants to read your anti net commentary.

If you don't like me criticizing the performance team tough ****. I'm tired of people bashing Lopez a thousand times worse than any criticism I've ever done.

[Ror1997]

I hope they shut him down and trade him. Can't take the micro-management of minutes anymore.

So then stop posting on a nets forum if you dont have any positive opinions on the nets. Nobody wants to read your anti net commentary.

If you don't like me criticizing the performance team tough ****. I'm tired of people bashing Lopez a thousand times worse than any criticism I've ever done.

Difference is that its Net fans who've watched and cheered for Lopez his entire career that are criticizing him, while doing in in a nets forum. You're criticizing a team you aren't a fan of, a team you have only watched play for 1 year, a performance team that was just recently put together, and net fans in general soley because you don't want to criticize Jeremy Lin himself.

This is a nets forum. If you want to irrationally berate the Nets while praising Lin, that's fine I dont give a ****. Just don't do it here. This is a NETS forum. So **** off.

[NyCeEvO]

I don't know whether Lin could have shaken off the ankle sprain and come back today. My opinion is that it didn't look serious and on any other team he would have at least tried to come back. My problem with the performance team is not about this game but based upon watching the team all season. They set up a rigid number of minutes before the game that is the max for that player. Then that number of minutes is rigidly adhered to by KA. I'm not against limiting players minutes based upon their condition, injuries etc. but there has to be some leeway. THIS IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE. For example if KA was not so hampered by having to play Lin EXACTLY a certain number of minutes then Lin would have returned against the Celtics with 6:42 left in the game. Instead Kenny had to keep Lin out another 42 SECONDS so that he wouldn't go over his alloted minutes by 42 SECONDS. This kind of rigid, non-scientific nonsense has to end or it won't matter if you get 3 first rounders for Brook the team will always lose.

Pistol,

Lin is the only player getting injured so often. Every one else is fine.

There is absolutely no empirical evidence to go off of which suggests that the performance team is failing at its job.

This comes off as a preoccupation with Lin's health that never incorporates the biggest logical variable that Lin's body is not handling the rigors of this season well.

Unless we receive empirical data that makes it obvious that the performance team is responsible, this condemnation of the team needs to stop.



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