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College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

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If we have the 1st or 2nd pick, and take Ball, how will you feel

Feel VERY good about the pick
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17%
OK with the pick
14
34%
Not particularly happy with it
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20%
Pissed
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22%
OK at 2, but at one 1 am not happy and will explain this pick in thread
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7%
 
Total votes: 41

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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1461 » by Marcus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:28 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:I'm not a superfan of Ball, but think Ball + Ulis PG rotation would be pretty awesome. Their teams only had 3 and 5 turnovers (from memory) in their last game, that's like 10 less than usual.

Some of Josh Jackson's offense today was next level, if he can do that regularly he'd probably be worth the no.1.

I don't see us taking Tatum, as he's not the high upside athlete that McDonough acquires 90% of the time, but him playing well in the last month might help us get one of the other guys if we slip in the lotto.

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Pick 1-3: 46%
Pick 4-6: 54%

I think there's a chance we have Jackson no.1, as you have to see it as a combination with Bledsoe-Jackson, it's a high bar to beat if you're going to acquire 2 new players in the Draft Pick (Ball, Fultz, Fox) and the Bledsoe Trade Player (Whoever).


Josh can do that regularly. There's so much more to his get buckets game than what his 3rd option status at Kansas will allow you to see this year. Josh and DSJ are the two guys I think you can give the rock to day one and live and die by how they get you buckets. I think Fultz gives you that eventually but not right away and Lonzo can help manufacture buckets but he won't necessarily be the one scoring for you.

Josh been number one on my board since his junior year in HS. Highest floor in the class I feel.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1462 » by Qwigglez » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:30 am

I know we should be going BPA, but if we draft Josh Jackson what do we do about Bender? Is he the odd man out? Or are we hoping he becomes a new stretch 5 hybrid?
I'd love for Bender to gain enough strength as well as Chriss to be able to do this, but part of me is unsure if that is the best move. I guess if we keep Len we should be fine defensively at the 5.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1463 » by Funky Tut » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:44 am

Boys, honestly if we land a top 3 draft pick its time to get excited. Whether its Fultz/Ball/Jackson, they are all game changers. MCD has made some dumb moves but sitting Bled for the tank was smart. We absolutely need a top 3 pick in a loaded draft.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1464 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:17 am

Qwigglez wrote:I know we should be going BPA, but if we draft Josh Jackson what do we do about Bender? Is he the odd man out? Or are we hoping he becomes a new stretch 5 hybrid?
I'd love for Bender to gain enough strength as well as Chriss to be able to do this, but part of me is unsure if that is the best move. I guess if we keep Len we should be fine defensively at the 5.

Let him develop and find out what he is, as was always the plan. You don't cut bait with him just because we get Jackson. I personally think he'll be the 4 with Chriss essentially playing the 5. Chriss will probably be stronger than Bender, and will at least offer resistance against "true" centers. Hopefully Jackson and Bender are good help-side defenders who can poke the ball away or contest a shot and we'll hopefully have a quickness advantage on the offensive end. I think they'll figure it out. I don't think we need to conform to standard lineups, but find lineups that work for us. And who knows, maybe Bender gets crazy swole and becomes a 5.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1465 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:42 am

Draft odds chart for new poll...stay at #3...highest individual odds of pick is 5th..

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Post#1466 » by Kerrsed » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:14 am

I have the feeling we end up with the 5th pick. :nonono:
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Post#1468 » by Saberestar » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:34 am

Kerrsed wrote:I have the feeling we end up with the 5th pick. :nonono:

I really do not care. There is no clear #1 player in this draft, there is not a LeBron type of player out there waiting for us so I do not care.

People saying that is gonna be 1-4 with Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Tatum ..come on, ALWAYS in May/June everything changes before the draft.

One or probably two of those players are gonna be available at #5, every year someone goes down just before the draft. It is a science.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1469 » by Qwigglez » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:38 am

Best case scenario, we get No 1 pick, Celtics get No 2, Philly gets No 3, and then Philly gets No 4 from Lakers. :D
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Post#1470 » by Qwigglez » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:45 am

Oh and 56 more days until the NBA draft lottery.
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Post#1471 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:55 pm

This is a great poll question.
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Post#1472 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:14 pm

Qwigglez wrote:Best case scenario, we get No 1 pick, Celtics get No 2, Philly gets No 3, and then Philly gets No 4 from Lakers. :D


I just put a thread about this on the GB, however, it was about if your team doesn't get top 3 who would you want to get them? For me it is the Magic, Knicks and Hornets.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1473 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:16 pm

Don't like this scenario.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1474 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:17 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.


It's a tough one for me between Isaac and Dennis Smith Jr. I'll have to see darealjuice's write ups as I haven't watched enough. Isaac might have extremely high upside though with defense, length, etc.

But Bledsoe worries me....Rich Paul wanting that $170 million deal, injury possibilities, etc. I imagine Dennis Smith Jr is more ready to contribute from day one though, and if we trade Bledsoe we could potentially get a nice return.

Kerrsed wrote:I have the feeling we end up with the 5th pick. :nonono:


Well, the bright side is that even though the individual odds of 1, 2, 3 or 4 are each lower, the combined odds of top 3 are almost 47%, so it's almost a coin toss we get top 3, and about equal chance for 1, 2 or 3. And more than a coin toss if you add 4 on top of it.



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Post#1475 » by kennydorglas » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:40 pm

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Post#1476 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:46 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.


It's a tough one for me between Isaac and Dennis Smith Jr. I'll have to see darealjuice's write ups as I haven't watched enough. Isaac might have extremely high upside though with defense, length, etc.

But Bledsoe worries me....Rich Paul wanting that $170 million deal, injury possibilities, etc. I imagine Dennis Smith Jr is more ready to contribute from day one though, and if we trade Bledsoe we could potentially get a nice return.

Yeah its a tough call between isaac and Smith. But ultimately either one is a nice worst case scenario consolidation prize. I've thought for a while that smiths skill set seems like one that will easily translate to the pick and roll heavy nba. Issac is kind of hard to pin down because on one hand you would like to see him dominate more often but i do like that he can help a team in so many ways other than scoring.

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Post#1477 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:55 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:
cosmofizzo wrote:This is a great poll question.


It's a tough one for me between Isaac and Dennis Smith Jr. I'll have to see darealjuice's write ups as I haven't watched enough. Isaac might have extremely high upside though with defense, length, etc.

But Bledsoe worries me....Rich Paul wanting that $170 million deal, injury possibilities, etc. I imagine Dennis Smith Jr is more ready to contribute from day one though, and if we trade Bledsoe we could potentially get a nice return.

Yeah its a tough call between isaac and Smith. But ultimately either one is a nice worst case scenario consolidation prize. I've thought for a while that smiths skill set seems like one that will easily translate to the pick and roll heavy nba. Issac is kind of hard to pin down because on one hand you would like to see him dominate more often but i do like that he can help a team in so many ways other than scoring.

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Smith, to me, just seems like another Bledsoe.
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Post#1478 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:24 pm

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It's a tough one for me between Isaac and Dennis Smith Jr. I'll have to see darealjuice's write ups as I haven't watched enough. Isaac might have extremely high upside though with defense, length, etc.

But Bledsoe worries me....Rich Paul wanting that $170 million deal, injury possibilities, etc. I imagine Dennis Smith Jr is more ready to contribute from day one though, and if we trade Bledsoe we could potentially get a nice return.

Yeah its a tough call between isaac and Smith. But ultimately either one is a nice worst case scenario consolidation prize. I've thought for a while that smiths skill set seems like one that will easily translate to the pick and roll heavy nba. Issac is kind of hard to pin down because on one hand you would like to see him dominate more often but i do like that he can help a team in so many ways other than scoring.

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Smith, to me, just seems like another Bledsoe.

I see more Damian Lillard in smith than bledsoe. Both in a good and bad way. Fox actually reminds me more of Bledsoe as a prospect, crazy athletic and a good defender but very raw. Now bledsoe has evolved to a little different player but that was his profile coming out.

I like fox but its hard to say if he will be john wall or elfid payton... or somewhere in between.

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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1479 » by sunsbum » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:00 pm

I don't want another PG like bledsoe. We have too many weapons on this team that aren't being used at maximum efficiency when bled/knight are at PG. If we don't get ball or fultz then we draft BPA.
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Re: College basketball and 2017 draft 

Post#1480 » by bwgood77 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:09 pm

sunsbum wrote:I don't want another PG like bledsoe. We have too many weapons on this team that aren't being used at maximum efficiency when bled/knight are at PG. If we don't get ball or fultz then we draft BPA.


Unless best player available is Dennis Smith, Jr?

Although I don't know if he is like Bledsoe. He scores quite a bit, but he averages the second most assists in college basketball behind Ball.

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