2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread Volume 2

[Unbreakable99]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

[LloydFree]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I trust Monk's shooting and ability to score points at the next level. A couple game slump doesn't matter much, IMO. But you are right, at #6 or #7, he's a nice piece to add. You can''t​ waste a top 3-4 pick on what he brings though. But hopefully the 76ers are lucky enough to have a pick that high.

[Kobblehead]

Only having one Top 10 pick and spending it on such a flawed, likely bench player prospect like Malik Monk would be a disaster, in my eyes.

[Unbreakable99]

Only having one Top 10 pick and spending it on such a flawed, likely bench player prospect like Malik Monk would be a disaster, in my eyes.

Well be prepared to be disastered lol. If we aren't picking in the top 4 I think Fox has a very good chance to be the pick. I think BC would pick Monk over DSJ. And as much as you want another Center in Williams there is no way BC does that even if we get the Lakers pick. Let's just hope we get in the top 4. After 4 there will be so many other ways people would want to go. If we do get Monk I'm going to buy you a Monk jersey though lol.

[Unbreakable99]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I trust Monk's shooting and ability to score points at the next level. A couple game slump doesn't matter much, IMO. But you are right, at #6 or #7, he's a nice piece to add. You can''t​ waste a top 3-4 pick on what he brings though. But hopefully the 76ers are lucky enough to have a pick that high.

If Monk can be as good as Booker I'll be ok with it even if people say Booker is overrated. Monk is somewhat scary though. I would be nervous.

[Sixerscan]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I trust Monk's shooting and ability to score points at the next level. A couple game slump doesn't matter much, IMO. But you are right, at #6 or #7, he's a nice piece to add. You can''t​ waste a top 3-4 pick on what he brings though. But hopefully the 76ers are lucky enough to have a pick that high.

If Monk can be as good as Booker I'll be ok with it even if people say Booker is overrated. Monk is somewhat scary though. I would be nervous.

Wonder how well booker would have done in monks role as a freshman.

Booker didn't score more than 12 points in a game in the month of march. Never had a 20 point game in college. Maybe he would have busted out given a bigger role, or maybe there would have been the same concerns as about Monk. Maybe moreso.

[Negrodamus]

I have a feel if we don't get lucky, we're going to trade a kings ransom for Lonzo.

[Sixerscan]

I have a feel if we don't get lucky, we're going to trade a kings ransom for Lonzo.

I have a feeling that there will be rumors about that from lottery until draft day and then it won't happen.

[Negrodamus]

I have a feel if we don't get lucky, we're going to trade a kings ransom for Lonzo.

I have a feeling that there will be rumors about that from lottery until draft day and then it won't happen.

Maybe, but Colangelo was enamored with Steve Nash in both Phoenix and in Toronto. Ball feels like that type of player.

Here's an opportunity to have three ridiculously good passers (Simmons, Saric, Ball) and the shelves are stocked. For our sake, I hope we win the damn lottery, but I could see us landing at 5 and Colangelo packaging the 5 + Lakers pick+ something else to get Ball. I definitely feel like we'll be hellbent on leaving this draft with a PG.

[Sixersftw]

I have a feel if we don't get lucky, we're going to trade a kings ransom for Lonzo.

I have a feeling that there will be rumors about that from lottery until draft day and then it won't happen.

Maybe, but Colangelo was enamored with Steve Nash in both Phoenix and in Toronto. Ball feels like that type of player.

Here's an opportunity to have three ridiculously good passers (Simmons, Saric, Ball) and the shelves are stocked. For our sake, I hope we win the damn lottery, but I could see us landing at 5 and Colangelo packaging the 5 + Lakers pick+ something else to get Ball. I definitely feel like we'll be hellbent on leaving this draft with a PG.

I don't see the Nash - Ball connection. I don't know if he is hellbent on getting a point guard. Inquiring into KCP and all the endless discussion about Simmons being a PG gives me the feeling that they are more open to a non-traditional lineup. I'm probably wrong and he's going to make some nausea inducing trade.

[LloydFree]

Only having one Top 10 pick and spending it on such a flawed, likely bench player prospect like Malik Monk would be a disaster, in my eyes.

Yeah, I totally get that point of view. Monk likely will be a bench player (on anybody except the 76ers). But I think all of the players outside of the top 3 or so are very flawed, so I don't have a problem with Monk at that part of the draft. You don't get complete players at #7 in most drafts, unless a bunch of teams make serious​ mistakes at the top. It's true that Monk is likely only a one-tool player, but I'm confident that his one-tool will project well to the NBA. And as Unbreakable mentioned, there is zero chance that Colangelo selects Robert Williams, if the 76ers only have one lottery pick. So at that point, if the 76ers aren't going to select the more impactful type player, I'm OK with taking the flawed guy that will fit with what they have. Markkenen, Fox and Frank N, either don't fit or aren't any better than Monk, so at that point it wouldn't be a disaster, IMO.

[Negrodamus]

I have a feeling that there will be rumors about that from lottery until draft day and then it won't happen.

Maybe, but Colangelo was enamored with Steve Nash in both Phoenix and in Toronto. Ball feels like that type of player.

Here's an opportunity to have three ridiculously good passers (Simmons, Saric, Ball) and the shelves are stocked. For our sake, I hope we win the damn lottery, but I could see us landing at 5 and Colangelo packaging the 5 + Lakers pick+ something else to get Ball. I definitely feel like we'll be hellbent on leaving this draft with a PG.

I don't see the Nash - Ball connection. I don't know if he is hellbent on getting a point guard. Inquiring into KCP and all the endless discussion about Simmons being a PG gives me the feeling that they are more open to a non-traditional lineup. I'm probably wrong and he's going to make some nausea inducing trade.

You don't see the connection? Both are exceptional passers that shoot, or shot, very well from three and run an incredibly uptempo offense. And they both don't play defense to boot. They aren't carbon copies, but they play a similar style than, say, Kyrie Irving. Colangelo definitely wants to, in some way, replicate that type of style.

[Sixersftw]

You don't see the connection? Both are exceptional passers that shoot, or shot, very well from three and run an incredibly uptempo offense. And they both don't play defense to boot. They aren't carbon copies, but they play a similar style than, say, Kyrie Irving. Colangelo definitely wants to, in some way, replicate that type of style.

The main difference in my eyes is the fact that Nash constantly eluded his man and got to the key whereas Lonzo, thus far, hasn't shown the ability to consistently breakdown the defense. Also, Lonzo is decidedly more athletic and because of this has a bit more defensive upside. Hell I've seen him play defense, I can't quite say the same for Nash.

Part of the problem may be I'm comparing a prospect to a fully formed MVP caliber player. I wasn't exactly watching basketball critically when Nash was a prospect so I can't speak to how close prospect Nash was to Lonzo.

[Negrodamus]

You don't see the connection? Both are exceptional passers that shoot, or shot, very well from three and run an incredibly uptempo offense. And they both don't play defense to boot. They aren't carbon copies, but they play a similar style than, say, Kyrie Irving. Colangelo definitely wants to, in some way, replicate that type of style.

The main difference in my eyes is the fact that Nash constantly eluded his man and got to the key whereas Lonzo, thus far, hasn't shown the ability to consistently breakdown the defense. Also, Lonzo is decidedly more athletic and because of this has a bit more defensive upside. Hell I've seen him play defense, I can't quite say the same for Nash.

Part of the problem may be I'm comparing a prospect to a fully formed MVP caliber player. I wasn't exactly watching basketball critically when Nash was a prospect so I can't speak to how close prospect Nash was to Lonzo.

Right, and I'm not comparing the two. Note, I said type of player. Distributing, 3pt shooting point guard. There are top PGs in this draft that don't fit this mold: Fultz, Smith, Fox, etc.

[76ciology]

Josh Jackson please

Josh Jackson, RoCo and Embiid on D.

[Unbreakable99]

Josh Jackson please

Josh Jackson, RoCo and Embiid on D.

I would love him. I would hate going up against him. It's better to play with him than against him. Can you imagine the Celtics with him? They would put him on Simmons and neutralize him

Jackson would make the Celtics impossible to score on from the perimeter

Jackson is the Simmons stopper. Ugh.

[LloydFree]

At the trade deadline I thought it would have been a good​ move for the Celtics to trade their Brooklyn picks for Paul George. They didn't do it, but now they are about to get the next Paul George (Josh Jackson) on a rookie contact​... Plus keep the other Brooklyn pick... plus keep their CAP space. Unreal.

[76ciology]

Josh Jackson please

Josh Jackson, RoCo and Embiid on D.

I would love him. I would hate going up against him. It's better to play with him than against him. Can you imagine the Celtics with him? They would put him on Simmons and neutralize him

Jackson would make the Celtics impossible to score on from the perimeter

Jackson is the Simmons stopper. Ugh.

Then have a PG screen Simmons, force them to switch (or the other way around). That or have Embiid screen Simmons and let JJ take Embiid at the post.

[HankTheTank]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I trust Monk's shooting and ability to score points at the next level. A couple game slump doesn't matter much, IMO. But you are right, at #6 or #7, he's a nice piece to add. You can''t​ waste a top 3-4 pick on what he brings though. But hopefully the 76ers are lucky enough to have a pick that high.

I feel like a broken record with Monk, but the reality it's a 7 game slump, and he brings little else when he's not shooting well. Combine that with his questionable NBA size and build and I'm not all that interested.

Jackson is the real deal. I see some Pippen in him, though I may get ripped for saying that. Jackson or Ball, and get the floats ready.

[LloydFree]

Monk is a nice prospect but over the last few games he has struggled to score. His shooting percentage is not that great. He still makes plays here and there. I would rather not draft him but if we are picking 6 7 or 8 he might be BPA. It's best if we get a top 4 pick so I don't have to worry about it.

Yeah, I trust Monk's shooting and ability to score points at the next level. A couple game slump doesn't matter much, IMO. But you are right, at #6 or #7, he's a nice piece to add. You can''t​ waste a top 3-4 pick on what he brings though. But hopefully the 76ers are lucky enough to have a pick that high.

I feel like a broken record with Monk, but the reality it's a 7 game slump, and he brings little else when he's not shooting well. Combine that with his questionable NBA size and build and I'm not all that interested.

Jackson is the real deal. I see some Pippen in him, though I may get ripped for saying that. Jackson or Ball, and get the floats ready.

I agree the top 2 players are Jackson or Ball, but after that I don't have enough strong feelings about any of the other guys to discount Monk. Who's your top 10-15?