Political Roundtable Part XIII

[gtn130]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

[dckingsfan]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Huh? D's can have proposals? (just having fun - back at you )

The context - way earlier in the thread - was that the ACA needed tweaks. When asked, Ds haven't proposed solutions.

A bit like the Rs when the Ds were in power.

Hence that comment "Where is that third party again?"

Come on gtn, keep up

[Kanyewest]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Republicans have obstructed anything the Democrats have wanted to do since 2010 when they have controlled the House. It seemed like Republicans were more aligned with opposing Obama then suggesting anything positive. Yes healthcare costs are still going up but at least the rate of these increases have been less inflationary with the ACA. There is still work to be done, and I'm hoping everyone can come to an agreement what the problems are and common sense solutions.

[dckingsfan]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Republicans have obstructed anything the Democrats have wanted to do since 2010 when they have controlled the House. It seemed like Republicans were more aligned with opposing Obama then suggesting anything positive. Yes healthcare costs are still going up but at least the rate of these increases have been less inflationary with the ACA. There is still work to be done, and I'm hoping everyone can come to an agreement what the problems are and common sense solutions.

No argument there. Rs were most definitely obstructionists. Ds are quickly falling in line with the same playbook.

Where is that third party?

[Kanyewest]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Huh? D's can have proposals? (just having fun - back at you )

The context - way earlier in the thread - was that the ACA needed tweaks. When asked, Ds haven't proposed solutions.

A bit like the Rs when the Ds were in power.

Hence that comment "Where is that third party again?"

Come on gtn, keep up

The Democrats are pretty divided on health care themselves. They don't want to acknowledge the split among Clinton and Sanders camps between the existing affordable care and expanding single payer. Proposals by Bernie Sanders also attempted to cap profits for the pharma industry/raising taxes. Clinton seemed to be just more about expanding the ACA while lowering deductibles as well as capping profits on some companies that didn't see much competition while having more moderate tax increases. Of course there are economic reasons to not support a single payer, but the fact that Democratic politicians as well Republicans take donations from industries has created skepticism among Sander's supporters that needs to be addressed. You are right that the Democrats are staying quiet in this debate which might be a good short term strategy but probably a bad long term one.

[Wizardspride]

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[bealwithit]

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So much winning.

[gtn130]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Huh? D's can have proposals? (just having fun - back at you )

The context - way earlier in the thread - was that the ACA needed tweaks. When asked, Ds haven't proposed solutions.

A bit like the Rs when the Ds were in power.

Hence that comment "Where is that third party again?"

Come on gtn, keep up

So I think this is another case where you're presuming the Republicans are acting in good faith. Healthcare isn't this grand enigma requiring maximum effort and brain power to solve.

For the millionth time, Republicans want to repeal ACA because:

1. Tax breaks for their donors.
2. Optics / political victory / they backed themselves into this corner

If the 'problem' they actually want to solve was simply that they want to provide cheaper, better, more accessible healthcare to more Americans, they wouldn't need these massive deliberations. They'd just do it.

Reality is that the various segments of the Republican party all have very different goals regarding this bill. The House Freedom Caucus seems to only care about the full repeal of ACA in the name of FREEDOM and CHOICE, and they have very little to say about actual health coverage.

The starting point for this whole healthcare ISSUE really has little to do with health coverage. The Republicans as a whole don't care about that. They care about tax breaks and, I guess, FREEDOM (maybe? I dunno), and then they still have those whiny constituents (damn them!!!) who care about things like Medicaid, which really throws a wrench into things.

Republicans want to fully repeal ACA while presenting a huge tax break to their donors, but their constituents still want Medicaid and don't want to be kicked off their coverage. Those two sides can't really be reconciled, and that's where the problem is - it has nothing to do with broad ideas about healthcare or desire to get things done. There is no reaching across the aisle here.

[FAH1223]

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So much winning.

I guess they'll try for tomorrow

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[Zonkerbl]

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Republicans have obstructed anything the Democrats have wanted to do since 2010 when they have controlled the House. It seemed like Republicans were more aligned with opposing Obama then suggesting anything positive. Yes healthcare costs are still going up but at least the rate of these increases have been less inflationary with the ACA. There is still work to be done, and I'm hoping everyone can come to an agreement what the problems are and common sense solutions.

No argument there. Rs were most definitely obstructionists. Ds are quickly falling in line with the same playbook.

Where is that third party?

Karma's a bitch. What goes around comes around so don't complain or karma will slap you upside the head even harder. Speaking from experience.

[Zonkerbl]

Here's a Dem proposal for you: single payer.

That's better than what the Republicans came up with.

[bealwithit]

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The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know "for sure" whether President Donald Trump or members of his transition team were even on the phone calls or other communications now being cited as partial vindication for the president’s wiretapping claims against the Obama administration, according to a spokesperson.

"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the [intelligence community] about this before he knows for sure," a spokesperson for Nunes said Thursday. Nunes was a member of the Trump transition team executive committee.

Dis dude... LOL

[FAH1223]

Anyone hear the latest on the AHCA??

Figured we would hear something from the Ds on how to fix ACA by now - crickets.

Where is that third party again?

Huh? Republicans control congress that last I checked.

Huh? D's can have proposals? (just having fun - back at you )

The context - way earlier in the thread - was that the ACA needed tweaks. When asked, Ds haven't proposed solutions.

A bit like the Rs when the Ds were in power.

Hence that comment "Where is that third party again?"

Come on gtn, keep up

You have people like these who want the status quo

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Against people like Bernie and many Dems in the House pushing single payer

[Wizardspride]

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The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Devin Nunes, R-Calif., does not know "for sure" whether President Donald Trump or members of his transition team were even on the phone calls or other communications now being cited as partial vindication for the president’s wiretapping claims against the Obama administration, according to a spokesperson.

"He said he'll have to get all the documents he requested from the [intelligence community] about this before he knows for sure," a spokesperson for Nunes said Thursday. Nunes was a member of the Trump transition team executive committee.

Dis dude... LOL

[dckingsfan]

Here's a Dem proposal for you: single payer.

That's better than what the Republicans came up with.

Agreed. But... we would still need to address those underlying problems that are bankrupting the system. Long conversation earlier about this.

But please Zonk - don't make me defend the Rs on this one

[dckingsfan]

Republicans have obstructed anything the Democrats have wanted to do since 2010 when they have controlled the House. It seemed like Republicans were more aligned with opposing Obama then suggesting anything positive. Yes healthcare costs are still going up but at least the rate of these increases have been less inflationary with the ACA. There is still work to be done, and I'm hoping everyone can come to an agreement what the problems are and common sense solutions.

No argument there. Rs were most definitely obstructionists. Ds are quickly falling in line with the same playbook.

Where is that third party?

Karma's a bitch. What goes around comes around so don't complain or karma will slap you upside the head even harder. Speaking from experience.

So, you joining that third-party with me Zonk?

[DCZards]

Former POTUS Barack Obama wrote this in a mass email to followers on the seventh anniversary of signing ACA into law:

"I’ve always said we should build on this law, just as Americans of both parties worked to improve Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid over the years. So if Republicans are serious about lowering costs while expanding coverage to those who need it, and if they’re prepared to work with Democrats and objective evaluators in finding solutions that accomplish those goals — that’s something we all should welcome. But we should start from the baseline that any changes will make our health care system better, not worse for hard-working Americans.”

[AFM]

god damn trump cracks me up




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[montestewart]

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