Marc Stein - Doc Rivers or Pat Garrity to Replace Hennigan?

[PennytoShaq]

Do you believe that Skiles had a better roster? even though a lot of the young core is 1 year older under Vogel? If you do then there really not much to argue about, Rob deserved to be fired on the spot.

i believe Skiles had a better overall fit for roster. we have been looking for a SF since the season began.

Then Rob failed right? Honestly I don't know whether Rob is a good gm or not, but so far with the magic he hasn't done enough to consider a good gm, we're pretty much back to where we started. Maybe Martins and Devos interfered too much, maybe he didn't get lucky in the draft, its probably doesn't matter anymore, we will have to move on.

So you basically are now seeing everything we just said over the last 2 pages of posts. Excellent, we are all on the same page.

[Optimus_Steel]

Man i hope we'll pick the right GM this summer, even if it turns out to be just pure luck, kinda how Stan got the job with us.

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[MagicFan4Lyfe]

Man i hope we'll pick the right GM this summer, even if it turns out to be just pure luck, kinda how Stan got the job with us.

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Just hoping for some good luck anywhere- lottery, free agency, GM. We can't be this out of luck all the time!

[DiplomaticMagic]

Man i hope we'll pick the right GM this summer, even if it turns out to be just pure luck, kinda how Stan got the job with us.

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Just hoping for some good luck anywhere- lottery, free agency, GM. We can't be this out of luck all the time!

I thought we got lucky when Skiles out of nowhere quit and Vogel suddenly became available. But now I'm hoping Vogel pulls a Skiles

[SOUL]

[fendilim]

Man i hope we'll pick the right GM this summer, even if it turns out to be just pure luck, kinda how Stan got the job with us.

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Just hoping for some good luck anywhere- lottery, free agency, GM. We can't be this out of luck all the time!

I thought we got lucky when Skiles out of nowhere quit and Vogel suddenly became available. But now I'm hoping Vogel pulls a Skiles

Vogel pulling a Skiles would be very very bad for this team.

Not only will it have implications on our player development but also have Free Agency implications.

[Bensational]

Vogel is safe as houses in my opinion. The team will back him and give him time.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

In a general sense what things has hennigan done that a better gm might have done differently? Most of these draft we have been in a spot where the most successful players were taken ahead or well behind our pick. You could add oladipo and Tobias and we wouldn't be much better, still out of playoffs and considering firing our gm. The only options I see is we could've spent money on free agents from the very beginning to compete or done the exact opposite and completely bottomed out, best case scenario we would be the sixers which still isn't a great place to be. It's hard as hell to build a great NBA team, there's a lot more luck involved

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I agree to an extent, but really these two exact options you said are not that hind-sighted.

1, For all of the talk of trying to be like the Spurs model of sustained success, the FO never did it.
An even bigger sign was that it was really clear to project these past five years as a league-high tanking trend. Super terrible time to be trying to tank.
Plus, we actually had some phenomenal pieces already, who wanted to stay here too. Pieces like JJ and Ryno to help us bridge the gap into a new era playoff team. The Spurs-like sustained success would have come from sneaky good middle draft picks and surprise FA signings.

2, With the obvious nature of the tanking trend, the FO could have also tried to bottom out better. They made two mistakes to me. Using assets on a starter PG with no shooting, over a star draft player like KP, and not trying to mesh the roster better with picks and other moves (no good shooters at all, too many bigs, too many vets over getting youngsters who fit together, etc.).

I don't think we have a bad FO, I think they are learning and adapting too. So I'd be ok with Hennigan staying on, but if there is someone new, I'd feel even better about the direction of the team.

Honestly, I know tanking harder is considered I viable option, but until it actually works for the sixers I hesitate to consider that a "better" option. Tanking fosters a losing culture that's hard to get rid of. How many players on this team do think are just waiting to jump to another team? I would bet 80% of this team doesn't want to be here.

If I am to find faults in how this regime attempted to make a team, my main pet peeves would the emphasis on hitting a home run by getting athletic high ceiling/low skill guys. Maybe part of the problem is we just suck at developing guys. Regardless, if that's the case I'd like to see a focus going forward on basketball skill over athleticism

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[Max Power]

The way to improve this team is to bring in a regime that is aggressive about getting this team better, not the water drip till the sink is full mentality that Hennigan has been working with. First things first, we need a strong basketball base in the front office, and yes a strong leader like a Doc Rivers or Grant Hill etc can help immensely just from an appearances and player pov standpoint.

Next we need to draft well with what we do have, and see above on who shouldn't be involved in that process anymore. We really need to find a lead dog in this draft, and another Jameer Nelson type guy late like '04. In '04 we found a superstar and a leader in the same draft. We need a repeat of that. Tanking should never be the goal going into a season, but after February, if you're out of contention just stay out.

Lastly, we need to make playing in Orlando appealing again for free agents, which goes back to the first thing. Who's in charge. It's arguable Hennigan had some mojo going till the Skiles hire happened. The lineup was young and ripe for potential. But we need to attract game changers and have a strong NBA regime is key to this, we still have great weather, no state tax and a sparkling new arena. Guys not coming here is purely about its winning prospects so we turn that around and the rest should take care of itself.





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