OK ok here we go. Time to pick sides....

[Han Solo]

I want the Pistons to miss the playoffs not necessarily because I believe having a late lottery pick will help us but because it's not good for the game of basketball to have a group of players so lazy and uncommitted to winning be rewarded with more basketball. Hell, for these guys, it would be a punishment. They don't want to keep playing basketball and people don't want to watch them play basketball. Milwaukee and Miami respect the game and play hard. Even the Bulls completely outhustled Detroit. Let the teams that want it and deserve it be in the playoffs and let our guys hurry back to the recluse of their mansions ASAP.

Spot ****ing on.

[sfballa13]

I want the Pistons to miss the playoffs not necessarily because I believe having a late lottery pick will help us but because it's not good for the game of basketball to have a group of players so lazy and uncommitted to winning be rewarded with more basketball. Hell, for these guys, it would be a punishment. They don't want to keep playing basketball and people don't want to watch them play basketball. Milwaukee and Miami respect the game and play hard. Even the Bulls completely outhustled Detroit. Let the teams that want it and deserve it be in the playoffs and let our guys hurry back to the recluse of their mansions ASAP.

Spot ****ing on.

I feel the same way, this team doesnt deserve to make the playoffs and even if they did they would get swept by the Cavs

Remember LeBron historically (i Believe) has swept all 1st round series, again i could be wrong

Now we arent good enough to make the playoffs and arent bad enough to get a good pick = aka Joe Dumars era all over again

We are going into a new arena, i get SVG made some quality moves but those moves arent producing any results

Also motivation shouldnt be an issue when the team has been playing together for at least 1.5 seasons

If there was a problem about hustling and motivation and putting forth effort every night....THAT FALLS ON SVG

He has done a horrendous job coaching this season no matter how many people want to keep giving him passes and sugarcoating his time in Detroit

[Pharaoh]

He's done a poor job recognizing the changes that need ro be made and then making them

RJ shouldn't have come straight back - should have gave him a week or 2 off the bench

Jon has crapped the bed for ages...SJ isn't getting the consistent playing time he needs, KCP not getting the ball he needs etc

Maybe Charlotte fire Cliffy and we bring him in to coach?

Maybe we make a load of roster changes?

Maybe SVG thinks this is an anomaly and stays the course?

We'll find out soon enough

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[Pandev]

"Maybe SVG thinks this is an anomaly and stays the course?"

Nah think has been happening all season long. He's 100% lost these young players.

[Pharaoh]

"Maybe SVG thinks this is an anomaly and stays the course?"

Nah think has been happening all season long. He's 100% lost these young players.

That assumes that another voice can get them in the same page - I doubt that very much!

There are issues here that a coaching change will not fix because you'll still have the 2 halves that don't make 1 good whole

We are choosing between KCP & RJ here IMO & it's an easy choice

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[Pandev]

I'm pretty confident that a well respected voice ala Mark Jackson could get through to our young roster.

Warriors squad got better each year under him.

[sc8581]

This team has had dozens of stretches over the last couple years where it looked like they couldn't be beat and just as many, probably more, where it looked like not a single player belonged in the league. What does that say about a team?

I still fully back SVG but I'm not ruling out that he's the main culprit. Drummonds effort clearly has something to do with it but how much? KCP is my favorite player but can he be more than a hustle guy without the perfect backcourt mate? Tobias has some nice scoring outings but I can't see him as a starter without him adding something to his game. Mook could be a good glue guy if he were surrounded by better talent I think but on this team he's asked to do too much. Leuer is a solid 8th man, 3rd big, ok at everything, good at nothing. Stanley could be a nice role player moving forward, more of a specialist that's​ barely in the rotation though. Ish is obviously a nice change of pace off the bench, might be the only guy we have that we know what to do with.

All of that being said, it seems like if one guy is scoring well, everything kind of falls into place. Other guys feed off that on both ends eventually creating easy buckets for everyone which gives them more defensive energy and so on. What I'm saying is, even with these misfits could we actually just be one lethal scorer away from competing? Am I the only one that sees these things happening?

[DET_Athletics]

I change my mind on this every other game or sometimes every other quarter in games. At this point I don't even care what happens, id like us to get a lottery pick but I know this team is going to win enough just to sneak in and get killed by either the cavs or celtics.

the brooklyn and orlando games did it for me, there is no way a playoff team loses to those two teams, no matter what, especially a team stilling fighting to be in the playoffs.