Bradley Beal - Part III

[tontoz]

On the season Beal is averaging 23.8 pts per 36 with an ORTG of 118 and a TS of 60.6%. If i hadn't seen it with my own eyes i wouldn't believe it.

[DCZards]

On the season Beal is averaging 23.8 pts per 36 with an ORTG of 118 and a TS of 60.6%. If i hadn't seen it with my own eyes i wouldn't believe it.

These are probably the main things that have come together for BB this season: improved confidence, better health, physical maturity, good coaching and a great work ethic.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Beal is now playing off wall...versus playing with wall...

He knows to get to his spots when the defense is tough on Wall vs getting close enough to get the ball for a quick pass..that's trust...he understands now...Wall can pass....
Let him work...

On top of playing with/off Wall; Bradley has quickly formed a real good two-man game with Bogs. He's driving and dishing well late in games. If teams don't collapse on him he's taking it to the rack and finishing. When they try and double Beal, Bogdanovic spots up for wide open threes.

It's a beautiful thing to see.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

On the season Beal is averaging 23.8 pts per 36 with an ORTG of 118 and a TS of 60.6%. If i hadn't seen it with my own eyes i wouldn't believe it.

These are probably the main things that have come together for BB this season: improved confidence, better health, physical maturity, good coaching and a great work ethic.

Bet a good woman in his life is part of the calculus.

[sfam]

I doubt you'll find anyone now who even remembers they had a problem with signing Beal to the Max. The dude is ballin. I really wish Beal had that last second shot in regulation yesterday instead of Wall.

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[Darko Miliminutes]

I remember being laughed at every time, in the previous Beal threads. It so nice to see his game coming together, and everyone now appreciating him.

All the suckage during the past couple/few seasons, was just him learning to do the things that he's doing now. Patience pays off...again.

[tontoz]

Jordanesque performance last night, 38 pts (70% TS) and 10 rebounds, with 21 pts coming in the 4th/OT.

[payitforward]

He's absolutely killing it. Truly a joy to see him realize all that potential!

[CobraCommander]

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Boom! Just like that Beal making the coaches see that they made a mistake picking Melo over him for an AllStar nod. Beal having that and getting the looks now that the Wiz winning. I think you can legitimately say that Beal has now elevated his game to the point where it isnt insane to say Wall and Beal could be the best back court in the NBA. I know Curry and Klay didnt break up...but you have to admit our boys shouldn't back down or bow down to any one. We have the best record in the NBA over a good period of time and its because Beal is bringing it.

I love the way Beal now accepts that Wall WILL get him the ball and its his job to score. Wall leads the team and Beal scores the rock...now that they have essentially established that (under Brooks) we are legit contenders.

Next year Beal will be a lock to play in Allstar game...and may start.

[Shanghai Kid]

I'm most impressed with Beal's consistency, in his first few years it was kind of on and off. But now you feel like you know what your getting out of him every night.

[nate33]

Bradley Beal has now posted an eFG% over 50% in 24 of the last 25 games. Ridiculous.

To put his improvement into perspective, consider that his season average ORtg in his first 4 seasons never exceeded 103. And now, he has posted an ORtg exceeding 103 in 17 of his last 18 games and 23 of his last 25. Literally every game he plays now is better than his average game from last year.

Another interesting development is his recent drop in turnovers. His career average over his first four seasons was 10.7%, which puts him in the middle of the pack among high usage players. This year, his TOV% has dropped to 9.3% which ranks him 5th among the 38 players with a USG% over 25. In his last 20 games, he has posted a TOV% of just 8.4%. That number would rank him 2nd behind only Harrison Barnes. (And Barnes doesn't really count. His TOV% is low because he gets no assists and does nothing off the bounce. Overall, his ORtg is a mediocre 108 because he doesn't take any risks to get to the rim or to feed his teammates the ball.)

[Kanyewest]

Beal's a blue chipper. He's better than Klay. He's better than Lillard too. He's the second best player from his draft class and the best perimeter player. Wall is the best player from his class. Between the two of them, there will probably come a point where they are the best players at their position in the league. Gonna have to wait for Harden and Curry and Paul to get old first though, so it might be several years from now.

Well Beal is heading there but I would still say he's 3rd behind Davis and Green.

[Kanyewest]

For this season, how does Beal rank in terms of shooting guards? I think Beal is making his case for #1 although a case could be made for DeRozan. Thompson may play better without Durant in the lineup.

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If we count Harden as a 2 then Beal would be 3rd in the league at worst. I think a case could be made that he is better than Klay. Beal is 3rd in RPM marginally behind Klay.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

I would say he is definitely better than Derozen, who is a weak defender and doesn't have much off the ball game.

Yeah I made this case to my friend a couple weeks ago, who was claiming that DeRozan was the best shooting guard in the NBA. I stated I would rather have Beal for this season, and the only one that I saw as his competition was Thompson (perhaps I'm overvaluing Thompson's 2016 playoffs including game 6 against OKC, although at this rate I am expecting Beal to put up big numbers in the playoffs given his past postseason success). At this point I consider Harden a point guard. I forgot about DeRozan's bad defense especially his poor lateral quickness.

[nate33]

For this season, how does Beal rank in terms of shooting guards? I think Beal is making his case for #1 although a case could be made for DeRozan. Thompson may play better without Durant in the lineup.

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If we count Harden as a 2 then Beal would be 3rd in the league at worst. I think a case could be made that he is better than Klay. Beal is 3rd in RPM marginally behind Klay.

http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/2

I would say he is definitely better than Derozen, who is a weak defender and doesn't have much off the ball game.

Yeah I made this case to my friend a couple weeks ago, who was claiming that DeRozan was the best shooting guard in the NBA. I stated I would rather have Beal for this season, and the only one that I saw as his competition was Thompson (perhaps I'm overvaluing Thompson's 2016 playoffs including game 6 against OKC, although at this rate I am expecting Beal to put up big numbers in the playoffs given his past postseason success). At this point I consider Harden a point guard. I forgot about DeRozan's bad defense especially his poor lateral quickness.

All else being equal, a player that can score efficiently from the perimeter helps his team more than a player who can score with equal efficiency from the paint, because it's easier to send double team help to the paint and still recover. How many alley oops and back-door-cuts do Morris, Gortat and Porter get per game all because the defense is so focused on Beal coming off a pick to nail a 3-pointer?

[tontoz]

Here is a list of players with a scoring rate => Beal and a TS => Beal

Towns
Curry
Durant
Lebron
Kawhi
Harden
IT
Giannis

That is pretty elite company. He has turned into a legit first option scorer.

Unfortunately Wall still takes more shots.

[pcbothwel]

Here is a list of players with a scoring rate => Beal and a TS => Beal

Towns
Curry
Durant
Lebron
Kawhi
Harden
IT

That is pretty elite company. He has turned into a legit first option scorer.

Unfortunately Wall still takes more shots.

I mostly agree, but Wall also plays 2 more minutes per game. Per 100 possessions, Wall has 24.8 FGA and Beal has 24.1 FGA.

I will say, its nice that Wall is having a career high in ORtg, eFg, and TS despite having a down year shooting the ball from 3. If he can play like he has this year across the board, but shoot the 3 with the efficiency and frequency of last year... oh man

[Kanyewest]

Seriously, how many players would you trade Beal straight up for, factoring age and contract, but ignoring fit? Can you name 20?

Would definitely trade Beal for:
Anthony Davis
James Harden
Kawhi Leonard
Kevin Durant
Giannis Antetotoumpko
Russell Westbrook
Karl Anthony-Towns
Rudy Gobert
Nikola Jokic

Would consider trading Beal for:
Stephen Curry
Jimmy Butler
John Wall
Kyrie Irving
Draymond Green
Joel Embiid

Anybody else?
Cousins?
Paul George?
Blake Griffin?

I don't think I'd do any of these after factoring age and attitude.

Time to add Devin Booker to one of those lists.

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[nate33]

Seriously, how many players would you trade Beal straight up for, factoring age and contract, but ignoring fit? Can you name 20?

Would definitely trade Beal for:
Anthony Davis
James Harden
Kawhi Leonard
Kevin Durant
Giannis Antetotoumpko
Russell Westbrook
Karl Anthony-Towns
Rudy Gobert
Nikola Jokic

Would consider trading Beal for:
Stephen Curry
Jimmy Butler
John Wall
Kyrie Irving
Draymond Green
Joel Embiid

Anybody else?
Cousins?
Paul George?
Blake Griffin?

I don't think I'd do any of these after factoring age and attitude.

Time to add Devin Booker to one of those lists.

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No doubt.

It's one thing to score 50 by making a lot of jumpers. I think guys like Brendon Jennings and Tracy Murray have demonstrated that scoring 50 doesn't mean you're destined to become a great player. But Booker scored 70! And he did it while getting to the FT line 26 times! That's no fluke.