2017 OKC Thunder Trade Discussion

oken · Post #1301 » by **oken** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:11 pm

I liked this Tyler Ullis guy very much from yesterdays game. Especially check his moves around 3:50. He is what everybody hoped Payne would be. As a 34th place draft I guess he has a lot of swagger. Possibly his height prevented him from going up.

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Post #1302 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:21 pm

oken wrote:I liked this Tyler Ullis guy very much from yesterdays game. Especially check his moves around 3:50. He is what everybody hoped Payne would be. As a 34th place draft I guess he has a lot of swagger. Possibly his height prevented him from going up.

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Ulis is one of the guys who probably would have gone lotto if not for his height.

Post #1303 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:42 am

If we can't land a number 2 scoring option to go alongside Westbrook, I'm ready to blow it up.

Pillendreher · Post #1304 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:53 am

Knrstz wrote:If we can't land a number 2 scoring option to go alongside Westbrook, I'm ready to blow it up.

Dipo and Adams not showing up in games like this is just so disheartening.

Post #1305 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:01 am

Pillendreher wrote:
Knrstz wrote:If we can't land a number 2 scoring option to go alongside Westbrook, I'm ready to blow it up.

Dipo and Adams not showing up in games like this is just so disheartening.

I agree. Vic wasn't horrible but he's not a number two scorer. He's a number three guy. I don't know what Adams is anymore.

Post #1306 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:39 am

5 game win streak, one loss and blowing it up

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Osirus89 · Post #1307 » by **Osirus89** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:40 am

Set your sights for the summer. Victor would be a really good third option, but the second option has not arrived in OKC yet.....
Articles from Eric Horne about bringing in more guys if anyone hasn't seen it
http://newsok.com/article/5542233

I don't know how enticing a single draft pick is. Maybe we can trade someone for a second pick and trade them together. IDK ....just spit balling. Gordon Hayward would be almost perfect, but I can't see him picking the Thunder over Boston even if he leaves utah. Paul george seems to be looking at Los Angeles. Jimmy Butler ? Carmelo isn't a spring chicken, but if he is the only guy available I would look into it. Blake if the Clippers implode. Its hard to say who will be out there until the season ends and things play out, but the thing that is certain is that Russ plus marginal role players will not be enough to sustain success. You can't succeed in the current NBA as a one man show. Paul george, Russ, and AD are finding that out the hard way. Well, AD WAS a one man show until recently...

spearsy23 · Post #1308 » by **spearsy23** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:26 am

Osirus89 wrote:Set your sights for the summer. Victor would be a really good third option, but the second option has not arrived in OKC yet.....
Articles from Eric Horne about bringing in more guys if anyone hasn't seen it
http://newsok.com/article/5542233

I don't know how enticing a single draft pick is. Maybe we can trade someone for a second pick and trade them together. IDK ....just spit balling. Gordon Hayward would be almost perfect, but I can't see him picking the Thunder over Boston even if he leaves utah. Paul george seems to be looking at Los Angeles. Jimmy Butler ? Carmelo isn't a spring chicken, but if he is the only guy available I would look into it. Blake if the Clippers implode. Its hard to say who will be out there until the season ends and things play out, but the thing that is certain is that Russ plus marginal role players will not be enough to sustain success. You can't succeed in the current NBA as a one man show. Paul george, Russ, and AD are finding that out the hard way. Well, AD WAS a one man show until recently...

Having a second superstar isn't putting us on the level where we don't get soundly beaten by Golden state. They have three superstar impact players plus the second best shooter in NBA history, if you're measuring us against them (and face it, after winning 5 of 6 any post saying to blow it up is reacting directly to last night's result.) then we're going to be found wanting unless we manage to add Kawhi and Anthony Davis..

Pillendreher · Post #1309 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:11 pm

Zach Lavine if Minny doesn't want to pay him. He might just become the SG version of Kanter. Also: Advanced/Impact stats kinda hate him.

Post #1310 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:18 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Zach Lavine if Minny doesn't want to pay him. He might just become the SG version of Kanter. Also: Advanced/Impact stats kinda hate him.

I like Lavine but he likely will miss most of next season and may not even be 100 percent until the following season. I would love to get him but it likely won't move the needle much next year. Thibs likes defensive guys so maybe he would want Roberson.

NaturalThunder · Post #1311 » by **NaturalThunder** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:43 am

So how good is HoopsRumors?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/03/and-ones-brown-johnson-porter-jr-thunder.html

Says we "could" make a blockbuster trade this summer. I mean that just sounds like speculation. Pretty much any team "could" make a blockbuster trade. I don't think they'd put it on their site, though, if they didn't have some inside information that our front office was at least planning on pursuing trades that could potentially land us another star to pair with Russ.

Post #1312 » by **bondom34** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:12 am

NaturalThunder wrote:So how good is HoopsRumors?

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2017/03/and-ones-brown-johnson-porter-jr-thunder.html

Says we "could" make a blockbuster trade this summer. I mean that just sounds like speculation. Pretty much any team "could" make a blockbuster trade. I don't think they'd put it on their site, though, if they didn't have some inside information that our front office was at least planning on pursuing trades that could potentially land us another star to pair with Russ.

They're linking to Horne's article from the last page in this thread it looks like.

Kizz Fastfists · Post #1313 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:44 pm

They are speculating that the Thunder's late first round pick is worth an all-star in trade, which seems highly unlikely. If that is the case then Portland should trade their 3 first rounders for a superstar. Keep in mind that everyone is laughing at the Kings' return for Cousins, but they got two lottery picks for him. So OKC is going to get an all-star that is not a head case for a pick in the 20s and Kanter? What planet does that make sense on? Portland would throw their three first round picks and Crabbe at the player and win the bidding war.

If OKC makes a blockbuster trade this off-season it will be trading Russ not trading Kanter for a 2nd star player. I'd love to be wrong and get Butler for Kanter, but I don't see that as realistic.

Post #1314 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:36 am

What would it take to get Kelly Oubre? Kanter + Grant?

Kizz Fastfists · Post #1315 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:33 am

Knrstz wrote:What would it take to get Kelly Oubre? Kanter + Grant?

Kanter and Grant for Mahinmi and Oubre. OKC shouldn't do it, but that is about what a deal would look like. You could go the Abrines or Sabonis for Oubre route, which would also work for Washington and not OKC. Washington might not even take Kanter with OKC taking back Mahinmi. Washington has no reason to give up Oubre on his rookie deal when they need cheap quality players since they are going to be having issues staying out of the tax after signing Porter this off-season.

Post #1316 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 1:11 pm

Kizz Fastfists wrote:
Knrstz wrote:What would it take to get Kelly Oubre? Kanter + Grant?

Kanter and Grant for Mahinmi and Oubre. OKC shouldn't do it, but that is about what a deal would look like. You could go the Abrines or Sabonis for Oubre route, which would also work for Washington and not OKC. Washington might not even take Kanter with OKC taking back Mahinmi. Washington has no reason to give up Oubre on his rookie deal when they need cheap quality players since they are going to be having issues staying out of the tax after signing Porter this off-season.

What about the posssibility of trading for Porter next season after he's extended with Washington? Washington wants to get rid of Mahinmi and Gortat will be 34. Would they be interested in Adams? It seems like small forward is the most coveted position in the league now. If we can trade for one like Porter, would it be easier to acquire another center? Let's say Porter is traded for Adams, you still have Kanter, Sabonis and Taj to pick from. I know Adams for Porter doesn't help our cap situation so Taj, Dre and Kanter likely wouldn't all return.

Post #1317 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:21 pm

I had this discussion with sportscrazy already, but Mudiay screams "Presti reclamation project" to me.

Post #1318 » by **bondom34** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:22 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:I had this discussion with sportscrazy already, but Mudiay screams "Presti reclamation project" to me.

Better than Semaj :dontknow:

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Kizz Fastfists · Post #1319 » by **Kizz Fastfists** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:11 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:I had this discussion with sportscrazy already, but Mudiay screams "Presti reclamation project" to me.

The question with Mudiay going into that draft was if he would ever learn how to shoot. That is the only real issue with his game. He needs to become a better defender also, but I think that is more likely than him becoming a decent shooter. The best case scenario is a Rondo light. That isn't a bad backup PG if you are putting shooters around him and OKC can do that with McDermott and Abrines. I'm not quite sure what it would cost to get him. It would be worth rolling the dice if he can be had cheap since OKC needs a backup PG. He would be better than Semaj, but that isn't really saying much.

Pillendreher · Post #1320 » by **Pillendreher** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:27 pm

Andre Roberstan wrote:I had this discussion with sportscrazy already, but Mudiay screams "Presti reclamation project" to me.

What discussion?