Potential sleepers

Post #701 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:28 pm

Josh Hart.

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Rockmaninoff · Post #702 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:42 pm

Shamorie Ponds. High RCSI guy that had really nice stats as a freshman. Only 18.7 years old. With smaller guys producing under modern NBA rules, I'm surprised he isn't getting more buzz.

Post #703 » by **Nolan** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 6:51 pm

BigSlam wrote:Josh Hart.

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I really don't get why he isn't at least considered a late 1st rounder. His upside might be limited but at the very least he's a solid two way rotation player. Guys like him are seriously under valued.

doordoor123 · Post #704 » by **doordoor123** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:05 pm

Nolan wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Josh Hart.

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I really don't get why he isn't at least considered a late 1st rounder. His upside might be limited but at the very least he's a solid two way rotation player. Guys like him are seriously under valued.

This year especially I think teams are shooting for upside more than current skill. With 17 roster spots teams can now afford to gamble on someone with good intangibles (age included). I actually think more roster spots hurts the older players declaring unless they look like they have more upside. On the other hand, of a team thinks they could maximize an older player's potential right away a la Malcom Brogdon, I could see some going at the end of the first. But I don't think teams will be drafting for short term anymore.

Kalela · Post #705 » by **Kalela** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:05 pm

I am a bit biased as I am a UConn fan but I believe Jalen Adams is a sleeper if he declares.

Post #706 » by **BigSlam** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:27 pm

Nolan wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Josh Hart.

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I really don't get why he isn't at least considered a late 1st rounder. His upside might be limited but at the very least he's a solid two way rotation player. Guys like him are seriously under valued.

I feel he's this years Brogdon.

Like a poor mans Brandon Roy.

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RipCity71252 · Post #707 » by **RipCity71252** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:40 pm

BigSlam wrote:
Nolan wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Josh Hart.

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I really don't get why he isn't at least considered a late 1st rounder. His upside might be limited but at the very least he's a solid two way rotation player. Guys like him are seriously under valued.

I feel he's this years Brogdon.

Like a poor mans Brandon Roy.

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Brandon Roy? Even a poor man's version would need to have some sort of handle plus one on one creation ability which Hart has nearly zero of. He doesn't even have the pull up game unless he's in a pnr and the big drops.

He's a smaller, less athletic Danny Green to me. Doesn't have the craft, feel or advanced scoring sense to be much more than that offensively imo. He's also very predictable and outside of spot ups, he relies largely on his strength to score.

Patrick1978 · Post #708 » by **Patrick1978** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:34 pm

Semi ojeleye SMU
Rawle alkins Arizona
Alonzo trier Arizona
Tyler dorsey Oregon
Sindarius thornwell South Carolina
Pj dozier South Carolina
Cam Oliver Nevada

Coeur · Post #709 » by **Coeur** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:31 am

Trier is a stud. If he's really a 2nd round pick I hope it's the knicks that grab him

Upperclass · Post #710 » by **Upperclass** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:37 am

Trevon Blueitt clearly. I dont think Trier is an nba player actually. He cant do anything but score. He doesnt pass and has a horrible hoops IQ. I don't know how efficient he'll be scoring against more athletic, smarter defenders.

Ettorefm · Post #711 » by **Ettorefm** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:16 pm

Peter Jok.

twosevenstreet · Post #712 » by **twosevenstreet** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:47 pm

A nice 2nd rd sleeper, Jonah Bolden

Edit: probably should have read through the thread to see others had spoken about him. I guess he isn't as much of a sleeper as I thought.

No-Man · Post #713 » by **No-Man** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:39 pm

I knew people eventually will bring Bluiett, like he is alright, talented scorer, but too inconsistent and if he can't shoot regularly, and he hasnt shown that, numbers are alright, has good touch, slow mechanics, he just doesnt have enough going for him, typical jack-of-all-trades offensively that isnt there athletically.
Might make it with the right luck, but he feels like a guy that you can pick up from the dleague at any time, he is a 22.5 yo Junior also.

Upperclass · Post #714 » by **Upperclass** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:47 pm

PJ Dozier might have put himself on the map for the 2018 draft. He's a clone of current Shaun Livingston. Super solid 7th man type

No-Man · Post #715 » by **No-Man** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:51 pm

Upperclass wrote:PJ Dozier might have put himself on the map for the 2018 draft. He's a clone of current Shaun Livingston. Super solid 7th man type

It's too bad he can't shoot, but yeah, his poise is impressive, really good vision too, defensive tools are unreal.
Livingston was more creative, Dozier doesnt really go full downhill when he has a chance, Livingston loved those ones.
They have the similar midrange jumper from like a bit inside the elbow too.

If Dozier could shoot off-ball regularly he is a top15 prospect.

Upperclass · Post #716 » by **Upperclass** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:06 pm

^^ Really good analysis. And I agree with you. If someone grabs a hold of him over the summer, and teach's him how to use that handle he has, and touch, to be more aggressive offensively. He would indeed be a lotto candidate next year. His jumper has good form, just doesn't go in. He's horrendous from the free throw line as well

No-Man · Post #717 » by **No-Man** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:29 pm

Upperclass wrote:^^ Really good analysis. And I agree with you. If someone grabs a hold of him over the summer, and teach's him how to use that handle he has, and touch, to be more aggressive offensively. He would indeed be a lotto candidate next year. His jumper has good form, just doesn't go in. He's horrendous from the free throw line as well

Yeah touch aint there, he is better when he can get few feet in a tries with the midrange, normally money in those ones, just doesnt have the confidence on the 3s.
I think he is coming back, I had him like 12th or something in my Mock/Board back in January, but I took him off in the last one, he shot really well in non-conference play, came to earth hard in the 2nd half of the year.

He just isnt a good shooter, but other than that has a ton of tools, and hey, he can defend 1 through 3, so at least as back-up he is a guy you can mix with your starters more than let's say... Jawun Evans.

I think he is a top20 pick in my book if he declares, even with the shooting concerns.

BoyzNTheHood · Post #718 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:51 pm

Upperclass wrote:PJ Dozier might have put himself on the map for the 2018 draft. He's a clone of current Shaun Livingston. Super solid 7th man type

Would love to add him in Toronto to tag team with Delon Wright. Both amazing defenders who can't shoot though...

BoyzNTheHood · Post #719 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 9:59 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Any info on Reggie Upshaw from Middle Tennessee State? He seems to fit the mold of a sleeper. 6'8" 230 small forward with the clutch gene who has been the main factor in a Cinderella taking out Michigan State last year and Minnesota this year.

No info on this guy? Where are the gurus?

BoyzNTheHood · Post #720 » by **BoyzNTheHood** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:37 pm

Where would you guys take Tevin Mack?