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Shaq rips front runner SVG 

Post#1 » by Pandev » Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:32 am

http://archive.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/47655

Seems like old habits die hard for our boy SVG...

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By PAUL CORO
Wed, Mar 04 2009 5:21 PM

But O'Neal unleashed on Van Gundy before tonight's game in Miami. He rarely speaks before games but did so to a group of reporters and then again to the Republic to send his message tonight.

First, here's what Van Gundy said, "“I was shocked, seriously, shocked. And very disappointed cause he knows what it’s like. Lets stand up and play like men, and I think our guy did that tonight.”

Now, here is O'Neal with some more profane moments retracted:

"He (Howard) came with the same old, stale Patrick Ewing move so I tried to stand there and take the charge. The new rules say if you come through, you fall. But as I fell, I realized that it was a flop and it reminded me of Coach Van Gundy’s whole coaching career. The one thing I despise is a frontrunner. First of all, none of his players like him. When it gets tough, he will become the master of panic like he did before and he will quit like he did before. The one thing I despise is frontrunners. Yeah, he’s got a young team playing good but don’t be a frontrunner. Him and his brother and even the legend on the bench ain’t done what I’ve done in my whole career. So flopping would be the wrong choice of words."

"I just tried to take a charge. The (expletive) rules say you can’t stand there and get hit. You’ve got to fall. The (expletive) got the same old stinking move that Patrick Ewing has been doing his whole career. I went down, got up and didn’t complain. I see him and Stan complaining the whole game because they’ve got to. Remember, I’ve done more than him, his brother and Patrick Ewing."

"Stan Van Gundy reminds me of a broke navigational system. He knows everything about everything but ain’t never been nowhere. Think about that. If I’m right here and I type in the address of where you’re going, I know where it’s at but I’m not going there."

"When a bum says some (stuff) about it and I respond, you can (expletive) cancel that cuz I know how he is in real life. We’ll see when the playoffs start and he (expletive) panics and quits like he did when he was here (in Miami). And you (expletive) print it just like that. Do I look soft to you like you can say something and I’m not going to say something?"

"Notice they didn’t play me straight up. We’ll see how far they go cuz I know Stan. I said this a long time ago but I was actually talking about him: 'When the general panics, the troops will panic. Like in business, when the head panics and takes out all his stock, what happens?"

"All the players hate him. The players don’t even like him. I hate frontrunners. I really do. I don’t like any frontrunners. There’s a pecking order involved. I’ve been there six times."

"I ain’t going to let no bum like him rip me and not say anything back. You can cancel that (expletive) all the way. Usually, I let (expletive) go. Not that. Not him. Hell no."
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Post#2 » by Pharaoh » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:10 pm

I get that people are frustrated with the season and SVG deserves plenty of blame but a 2009 article?

It's so long ago it's not even remotely relevant!

People change, the league changed, players change etc

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Post#3 » by BadMofoPimp » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:17 pm

And, that was the year SVG took the Magic to the finals with a lineup of:

Dwight
Shard Lewis
Hedo Turkoglu
Courtney Lee (as a rookie)
Jameer Nelson
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Post#4 » by Pandev » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:43 pm

LOL seriously???

Have you ever listened to SVG. The guy is an emotional wreck, and it's on full display for players.

He bags his team, the team he assembled telling them how garbage they are, and what do you think happens to a players confidence??

The negativity around the team is palpable and it's on SVG, his emotional swings and reactions are stuff high school kids would get tired of quick.
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Post#5 » by hoophabit » Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:58 pm

Shaq was upset about being called out for a flop:

http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=3955710

I won't quote it. Shaq does seem to be a sensitive soul. SVG is not without his flaws and deserves heat for the team's recent performances, but this is old news.
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Post#6 » by Pharaoh » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:46 pm

Pandev wrote:LOL seriously???

Have you ever listened to SVG. The guy is an emotional wreck, and it's on full display for players.

He bags his team, the team he assembled telling them how garbage they are, and what do you think happens to a players confidence??

The negativity around the team is palpable and it's on SVG, his emotional swings and reactions are stuff high school kids would get tired of quick.

I would be negative as **** too after:

Giving RJ everything he ever wanted only to see him fail

Giving Andre Drummond the Max only to still see him pout

Giving Mook the first real role and home in the NBA he ever had only to see him develop into a iso specialist

Giving Jon Boy $10+ mil a year and his first real home in the NBA only to see him run out of steam after 40 games

Choking Stanley Johnson's chain enough to still have him be unprepared half the time.

The only dudes you can really give a pass to are:

KCP - 100% effort almost every night

Harris - has shown improvements on both ends

Ish - fit like a glove and thrust into a larger role than anyone envisioned

Bull - injured most of the time

Baynes - at least brings effort almost every night

Everyone else has failed to capitalize on opportunities there for the taking

When that door opens you gotta run through it...not hope it's open later when you're "ready"

Team is mentally soft

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Post#7 » by Shady_ » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:00 pm

Shaq is the worst person to get knowledge / advice from.

He's an egotistical, sensitive, man child.
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Post#8 » by whitehops » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:10 pm

Shady_ wrote:Shaq is the worst person to get knowledge / advice from.

He's an egotistical, sensitive, man child.

I really hate that the "master of panic" nickname gained any kind of traction.

Shaq has had problems at pretty much every stop he's had in the NBA with players and coaches (even HOF ones). To this day he spends his time bickering with Charles Barkley and beefing with javale McGee. I don't know how anyone takes him seriously.
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Post#9 » by bballnmike » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:21 pm

Not only are you reposting an old article, but you're reposting an old article that has already been brought up here this season. Seems like this article dies hard.
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Post#10 » by JohnReese » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:26 pm

Some of you need to ask yourselves the big question: if we fire Stan, who will want to come to Detroit?

Give me some names.
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Post#11 » by RasheedTupac » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:51 pm

JohnReese wrote:Some of you need to ask yourselves the big question: if we fire Stan, who will want to come to Detroit?

Give me some names.

Take a shot in the dark... similar to how Boston got Brad Stevens.


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Post#12 » by coordinator0 » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:33 pm

It's always amusing to see how much stock somebody puts in the words that come out of Shaq's mouth. Especially those that are coming up on being a decade old.

RasheedTupac wrote:Take a shot in the dark... similar to how Boston got Brad Stevens.


Hiring one of the best coaches in college basketball was a shot in the dark?
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Post#13 » by flow » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:50 pm

Pharaoh wrote:
Pandev wrote:LOL seriously???

Have you ever listened to SVG. The guy is an emotional wreck, and it's on full display for players.

He bags his team, the team he assembled telling them how garbage they are, and what do you think happens to a players confidence??

The negativity around the team is palpable and it's on SVG, his emotional swings and reactions are stuff high school kids would get tired of quick.

I would be negative as **** too after:

Giving RJ everything he ever wanted only to see him fail

Giving Andre Drummond the Max only to still see him pout

Giving Mook the first real role and home in the NBA he ever had only to see him develop into a iso specialist

Giving Jon Boy $10+ mil a year and his first real home in the NBA only to see him run out of steam after 40 games

Choking Stanley Johnson's chain enough to still have him be unprepared half the time.

The only dudes you can really give a pass to are:

KCP - 100% effort almost every night

Harris - has shown improvements on both ends

Ish - fit like a glove and thrust into a larger role than anyone envisioned

Bull - injured most of the time

Baynes - at least brings effort almost every night

Everyone else has failed to capitalize on opportunities there for the taking

When that door opens you gotta run through it...not hope it's open later when you're "ready"

Team is mentally soft

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Well said. This post builds a great case for firing the coach and gm.
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Post#14 » by flow » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:54 pm

coordinator0 wrote:It's always amusing to see how much stock somebody puts in the words that come out of Shaq's mouth. Especially those that are coming up on being a decade old.

RasheedTupac wrote:Take a shot in the dark... similar to how Boston got Brad Stevens.


Hiring one of the best coaches in college basketball was a shot in the dark?


Successful college coaches don't often succeed in jumping to the pros, so it was taking a chance.
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Post#15 » by chrbal » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:19 pm

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Post#16 » by afroxnas » Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:48 pm

Isn't this one of the idiots that thinks the earth is flat? And he's babbling about navigational systems?
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Post#17 » by hoophabit » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:22 pm

afroxnas wrote:Isn't this one of the idiots that thinks the earth is flat? And he's babbling about navigational systems?


What's your point? The satellites hover over the disk of the earth, and the reason it takes a little while for your device to find them is the sun stirs them around as it orbits the earth. Simple
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Post#18 » by Snakebites » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:57 am

coordinator0 wrote:It's always amusing to see how much stock somebody puts in the words that come out of Shaq's mouth. Especially those that are coming up on being a decade old.

RasheedTupac wrote:Take a shot in the dark... similar to how Boston got Brad Stevens.


Hiring one of the best coaches in college basketball was a shot in the dark?

Yeah....

He's a shot in the dark which is why he cost so much.....

That was seen as an amazing hire at the time even with the deal they gave him. No clue where the shot in the dark notion came from.
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Post#19 » by Laimbeer » Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:28 pm

The <1k posters are really driving this forum into the crapper.
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy

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