Terrance Ferguson

[GimmeDat]

If he had played in the U.S. there would be talk of him as a top 5 pick if not #1. He's a world class athlete. Offensively he can do it all. He's a great shooter, can put it on the floor and get to the hoop and has back to the basket post moves as well. Plus, unlike Monk, he has great size and defense. If Ainge plans on signing Isaiah Thomas to an extension, TF would be a candidate with their pick no matter where it falls. He's a perfect fit for Brad Steven's system and would allow them to let AB leave after next season. I can't see Ainge taking a SF since he has Brown, a PG if he plans on signing IT and also having Smart and Rozier, a big man because there isn't anyone worth it plus he has Yabusele and Zizic coming over. So that leaves SG. He has superstar potential. Put it this way, he's a better SG than Monk in every way and most have Monk in the top half of the lottery.

If Ainge does NOT plan on signing IT than he'll probably go PG and it could be any of the top 5 PGs that is his pick.

I don't dislike Ferguson, but I strongly disagree with this. I watched Ferguson all season in Australia and he is not as prolific a shooter, does not shoot off the dribble nearly as well, can't create for himself at this stage and has no where near the handles that Monk has, and that's an area for improvement for Monk, which says a lot.

Seems like elite role player potential, not superstar like you suggest. I've seen Terrence Ross mentioned and I think that's a decent comparison.

Only thing Ferguson has on Monk at this stage is size (which results in better defensive upside, rebounding, slashing and open court potential, etc.). That's very important, but Monk's really proven himself as a dynamic offensive weapon that Ferg isn't quite yet.

I don't think there's a massive difference, because Monk will end up dropping a bit because of his size, but I do think he still gets the edge over Ferguson. I think Monk is like 8-11 range, Ferguson 13-17.

[jonjames]

If he had played in the U.S. there would be talk of him as a top 5 pick if not #1. He's a world class athlete. Offensively he can do it all. He's a great shooter, can put it on the floor and get to the hoop and has back to the basket post moves as well. Plus, unlike Monk, he has great size and defense. If Ainge plans on signing Isaiah Thomas to an extension, TF would be a candidate with their pick no matter where it falls. He's a perfect fit for Brad Steven's system and would allow them to let AB leave after next season. I can't see Ainge taking a SF since he has Brown, a PG if he plans on signing IT and also having Smart and Rozier, a big man because there isn't anyone worth it plus he has Yabusele and Zizic coming over. So that leaves SG. He has superstar potential. Put it this way, he's a better SG than Monk in every way and most have Monk in the top half of the lottery.

If Ainge does NOT plan on signing IT than he'll probably go PG and it could be any of the top 5 PGs that is his pick.

I don't dislike Ferguson, but I strongly disagree with this. I watched Ferguson all season in Australia and he is not as prolific a shooter, does not shoot off the dribble nearly as well, can't create for himself at this stage and has no where near the handles that Monk has, and that's an area for improvement for Monk, which says a lot.

Seems like elite role player potential, not superstar like you suggest. I've seen Terrence Ross mentioned and I think that's a decent comparison.

Only thing Ferguson has on Monk at this stage is size (which results in better defensive upside, rebounding, slashing and open court potential, etc.). That's very important, but Monk's really proven himself as a dynamic offensive weapon that Ferg isn't quite yet.

I don't think there's a massive difference, because Monk will end up dropping a bit because of his size, but I do think he still gets the edge over Ferguson. I think Monk is like 8-11 range, Ferguson 13-17.

How do you like his chances of becoming an all star given his age and room for improvement esp. His handles.

[GimmeDat]

If he had played in the U.S. there would be talk of him as a top 5 pick if not #1. He's a world class athlete. Offensively he can do it all. He's a great shooter, can put it on the floor and get to the hoop and has back to the basket post moves as well. Plus, unlike Monk, he has great size and defense. If Ainge plans on signing Isaiah Thomas to an extension, TF would be a candidate with their pick no matter where it falls. He's a perfect fit for Brad Steven's system and would allow them to let AB leave after next season. I can't see Ainge taking a SF since he has Brown, a PG if he plans on signing IT and also having Smart and Rozier, a big man because there isn't anyone worth it plus he has Yabusele and Zizic coming over. So that leaves SG. He has superstar potential. Put it this way, he's a better SG than Monk in every way and most have Monk in the top half of the lottery.

If Ainge does NOT plan on signing IT than he'll probably go PG and it could be any of the top 5 PGs that is his pick.

I don't dislike Ferguson, but I strongly disagree with this. I watched Ferguson all season in Australia and he is not as prolific a shooter, does not shoot off the dribble nearly as well, can't create for himself at this stage and has no where near the handles that Monk has, and that's an area for improvement for Monk, which says a lot.

Seems like elite role player potential, not superstar like you suggest. I've seen Terrence Ross mentioned and I think that's a decent comparison.

Only thing Ferguson has on Monk at this stage is size (which results in better defensive upside, rebounding, slashing and open court potential, etc.). That's very important, but Monk's really proven himself as a dynamic offensive weapon that Ferg isn't quite yet.

I don't think there's a massive difference, because Monk will end up dropping a bit because of his size, but I do think he still gets the edge over Ferguson. I think Monk is like 8-11 range, Ferguson 13-17.

How do you like his chances of becoming an all star given his age and room for improvement esp. His handles.

I don't think Ferguson has realistic all star potential. If I had to guess, 13-14ppg guy that'll board, defend, make the right simple play, and run the break effectively. I think his handle will improve, but never to the degree he'll be a creator.

He could be more, could be less. He's a fair ways off imo, would like to reassess in a couple of years when he's refined his offense a bit more and put on some muscle. Could be a great 3-5th starter.

[zike_42]

I know it doesn't mean much at this stage of the year but draftexpress has Ferguson at #14 right now.

[vincecarter4pres]

I don't dislike Ferguson, but I strongly disagree with this. I watched Ferguson all season in Australia and he is not as prolific a shooter, does not shoot off the dribble nearly as well, can't create for himself at this stage and has no where near the handles that Monk has, and that's an area for improvement for Monk, which says a lot.

Seems like elite role player potential, not superstar like you suggest. I've seen Terrence Ross mentioned and I think that's a decent comparison.

Only thing Ferguson has on Monk at this stage is size (which results in better defensive upside, rebounding, slashing and open court potential, etc.). That's very important, but Monk's really proven himself as a dynamic offensive weapon that Ferg isn't quite yet.

I don't think there's a massive difference, because Monk will end up dropping a bit because of his size, but I do think he still gets the edge over Ferguson. I think Monk is like 8-11 range, Ferguson 13-17.

How do you like his chances of becoming an all star given his age and room for improvement esp. His handles.

I don't think Ferguson has realistic all star potential. If I had to guess, 13-14ppg guy that'll board, defend, make the right simple play, and run the break effectively. I think his handle will improve, but never to the degree he'll be a creator.

He could be more, could be less. He's a fair ways off imo, would like to reassess in a couple of years when he's refined his offense a bit more and put on some muscle. Could be a great 3-5th starter.

Admittedly, I know nothing about him other than youtube highlights, reading stuff here and other draft sites, but I can't help but see some freshman year at Fresno Paul George. I see Terrence Ross, but from what I read he is a reasonably smart player and plays within himself, especially for his age, where as Ross can often be a JR Smith level BBIQ copycat. Also, is it me, or do I see him being better as a small forward for the long term? I doubt he'll ever have a heavy frame, but once he puts on a natural 20ish pounds just from maturing, he could be wiry strong and excel at the 3.

The other 3 players who immediately come to mind are Martell Webster, Corey Brewer with a jumper and Kerry Kittles.

If a lot of what you and others writes is true though, he seems like a safe prospect with a high floor and the outside shot he is just so young and raw, that 4 years down the line his game has seriously expanded and he winds up a very high level player.

He could be the perfect type of player for a team like Brooklyn to target if they can move up in the draft to the mid teens.

[GimmeDat]

How do you like his chances of becoming an all star given his age and room for improvement esp. His handles.

I don't think Ferguson has realistic all star potential. If I had to guess, 13-14ppg guy that'll board, defend, make the right simple play, and run the break effectively. I think his handle will improve, but never to the degree he'll be a creator.

He could be more, could be less. He's a fair ways off imo, would like to reassess in a couple of years when he's refined his offense a bit more and put on some muscle. Could be a great 3-5th starter.

Admittedly, I know nothing about him other than youtube highlights, reading stuff here and other draft sites, but I can't help but see some freshman year at Fresno Paul George. I see Terrence Ross, but from what I read he is a reasonably smart player and plays within himself, especially for his age, where as Ross can often be a JR Smith level BBIQ copycat. Also, is it me, or do I see him being better as a small forward for the long term? I doubt he'll ever have a heavy frame, but once he puts on a natural 20ish pounds just from maturing, he could be wiry strong and excel at the 3.

The other 3 players who immediately come to mind are Martell Webster, Corey Brewer with a jumper and Kerry Kittles.

If a lot of what you and others writes is true though, he seems like a safe prospect with a high floor and the outside shot he is just so young and raw, that 4 years down the line his game has seriously expanded and he winds up a very high level player.

He could be the perfect type of player for a team like Brooklyn to target if they can move up in the draft to the mid teens.

Potentially. What I see right now feels more limited though - Ross was a more dynamic prospect, though as you said, lacks the IQ.

I guess while I see shades of something that could potentially become something greater, I also see shades of McLemore - picture perfect form, elite athleticism, but limited offensive game outside of that and can end up quite invisible out on the court at times as a result.

Of course, there's some major distinctions between Ferg and Ben Mac as well - an IQ, for one, and Ferguson is just generally a higher motor player. I just think he's not showing glimpses of tools that make him the big ceiling prospect some people are suggesting (and this is with me thinking he can turn in to a starter).

I have him right on the fringe of the lottery at the end of the day, so I do like him. I just don't see him developing an extremely advanced offensive game - 3 point shooter with elite straight line athleticism that will make the right pass, board and play D. Realistically, a great 4th option seems like a great outcome for him.

Just my opinion. He's raw, and we'll be able to say a lot more in a few years.

[WalterBenjamin]

Hezonja?

[Disposable Hero]

I don't think Ferguson has realistic all star potential. If I had to guess, 13-14ppg guy that'll board, defend, make the right simple play, and run the break effectively. I think his handle will improve, but never to the degree he'll be a creator.

He could be more, could be less. He's a fair ways off imo, would like to reassess in a couple of years when he's refined his offense a bit more and put on some muscle. Could be a great 3-5th starter.

Admittedly, I know nothing about him other than youtube highlights, reading stuff here and other draft sites, but I can't help but see some freshman year at Fresno Paul George. I see Terrence Ross, but from what I read he is a reasonably smart player and plays within himself, especially for his age, where as Ross can often be a JR Smith level BBIQ copycat. Also, is it me, or do I see him being better as a small forward for the long term? I doubt he'll ever have a heavy frame, but once he puts on a natural 20ish pounds just from maturing, he could be wiry strong and excel at the 3.

The other 3 players who immediately come to mind are Martell Webster, Corey Brewer with a jumper and Kerry Kittles.

If a lot of what you and others writes is true though, he seems like a safe prospect with a high floor and the outside shot he is just so young and raw, that 4 years down the line his game has seriously expanded and he winds up a very high level player.

He could be the perfect type of player for a team like Brooklyn to target if they can move up in the draft to the mid teens.

Potentially. What I see right now feels more limited though - Ross was a more dynamic prospect, though as you said, lacks the IQ.

I guess while I see shades of something that could potentially become something greater, I also see shades of McLemore - picture perfect form, elite athleticism, but limited offensive game outside of that and can end up quite invisible out on the court at times as a result.

Of course, there's some major distinctions between Ferg and Ben Mac as well - an IQ, for one, and Ferguson is just generally a higher motor player. I just think he's not showing glimpses of tools that make him the big ceiling prospect some people are suggesting (and this is with me thinking he can turn in to a starter).

I have him right on the fringe of the lottery at the end of the day, so I do like him. I just don't see him developing an extremely advanced offensive game - 3 point shooter with elite straight line athleticism that will make the right pass, board and play D. Realistically, a great 4th option seems like a great outcome for him.

Just my opinion. He's raw, and we'll be able to say a lot more in a few years.

it makes me think you haven't seen much on him then. Those are just talking points really. He's shown the ability to shoot the 3, mid range pull up, back to the basket fade away turn around (like Kobe and MJ) and can finish above the rim. What else is there? I get that there hasn't been a whole lot of tape beyond flashes but that's because he played overseas with men. I really feel come workouts he will be shooting up boards and could be the first SG taken.

[Duke4life831]

If he had played in the U.S. there would be talk of him as a top 5 pick if not #1. He's a world class athlete. Offensively he can do it all. He's a great shooter, can put it on the floor and get to the hoop and has back to the basket post moves as well. Plus, unlike Monk, he has great size and defense. If Ainge plans on signing Isaiah Thomas to an extension, TF would be a candidate with their pick no matter where it falls. He's a perfect fit for Brad Steven's system and would allow them to let AB leave after next season. I can't see Ainge taking a SF since he has Brown, a PG if he plans on signing IT and also having Smart and Rozier, a big man because there isn't anyone worth it plus he has Yabusele and Zizic coming over. So that leaves SG. He has superstar potential. Put it this way, he's a better SG than Monk in every way and most have Monk in the top half of the lottery.

If Ainge does NOT plan on signing IT than he'll probably go PG and it could be any of the top 5 PGs that is his pick.

I don't dislike Ferguson, but I strongly disagree with this. I watched Ferguson all season in Australia and he is not as prolific a shooter, does not shoot off the dribble nearly as well, can't create for himself at this stage and has no where near the handles that Monk has, and that's an area for improvement for Monk, which says a lot.

Seems like elite role player potential, not superstar like you suggest. I've seen Terrence Ross mentioned and I think that's a decent comparison.

Only thing Ferguson has on Monk at this stage is size (which results in better defensive upside, rebounding, slashing and open court potential, etc.). That's very important, but Monk's really proven himself as a dynamic offensive weapon that Ferg isn't quite yet.

I don't think there's a massive difference, because Monk will end up dropping a bit because of his size, but I do think he still gets the edge over Ferguson. I think Monk is like 8-11 range, Ferguson 13-17.

Agree with basically all of this. I really like Ferguson's shot, I think it is picture perfect and is so repeatable. But he doesnt really bring much when it comes to creating his own shot off the dribble, I also think he has potential as a defender but hes not a lock down defender either at this point. I think he can be that perfect 3rd option scorer on a team with his ability to shoot and with his athleticism in the open court.

I actually think Ferguson is going to be a starter while I think Monk is going to be best coming off the bench but as a high volume bench scorer along the lines of like a Crawford, Lou and so on. I just think Monk's lack of size and defense will make him best as a 6th man. I think hes going to be the next guy that has his name in contention each year as a 6 MOY.

[No-Man]

What the hell is all this about Ferguson finishing? he can't dribble, how is he gonna get there in the 1st place.