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Re: Future draft classes 

Post#1621 » by No-Man » Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:35 pm

Bagley isnt a SF in any world, he will play more 5 than 3 in the league, book that.
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Post#1622 » by Brauer » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:02 pm

I am personally super high on Bamba. But to be fair, I am in love by uber athletic big men with ridiculously large wingspans. I was high on Drummond and Whiteside and their experiences show that players like Bamba have a ridiculously high floor. Their tools alone make them effective players with potential to be stars. Rudy Gobert comparisons are often thrown around for him but Whiteside might be better at the moment.
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Post#1623 » by The-Power » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:25 pm

Brauer wrote:I am personally super high on Bamba. [...] Rudy Gobert comparisons are often thrown around for him but Whiteside might be better at the moment.

I think neither is a good comparison actually unless we're talking about measurements only.

Bamba has a solid shooting touch out to the 3pt-line, something neither Whiteside nor Gobert have. On the other hand, both are dominant rebounders and this is an area of improvement for Bamba. He relies on size right now and hasn't shown the mentality to crash the defensive glass at the HS level - I hope he works on positioning and mentality to be a dominant defensive rebounder. That must be his priority. After that he should be looking to improve his hands as they aren't bad but not great either. Compared to Gobert and especially Whiteside I feel much more comfortable with Bamba contesting Guards at the perimeter in defensive PnR situations, though.

Bamba is one of the best defensive prospects over the past ten years, imo.
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Post#1624 » by Brauer » Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:36 pm

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Brauer wrote:I am personally super high on Bamba. [...] Rudy Gobert comparisons are often thrown around for him but Whiteside might be better at the moment.

I think neither is a good comparison actually unless we're talking about measurements only.

Bamba has a solid shooting touch out to the 3pt-line, something neither Whiteside nor Gobert have. On the other hand, both are dominant rebounders and this is an area of improvement for Bamba. He relies on size right now and hasn't shown the mentality to crash the defensive glass at the HS level - I hope he works on positioning and mentality to be a dominant defensive rebounder. That must be his priority. After that he should be looking to improve his hands as they aren't bad but not great either. Compared to Gobert and especially Whiteside I feel much more comfortable with Bamba contesting Guards at the perimeter in defensive PnR situations, though.

Bamba is one of the best defensive prospects over the past ten years, imo.


Given how you just described him, I am certain we will hear a bunch of Anthony Davis comparisons if he goes to Kentucky.
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Post#1625 » by The-Power » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:08 pm

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Brauer wrote:I am personally super high on Bamba. [...] Rudy Gobert comparisons are often thrown around for him but Whiteside might be better at the moment.

I think neither is a good comparison actually unless we're talking about measurements only.

Bamba has a solid shooting touch out to the 3pt-line, something neither Whiteside nor Gobert have. On the other hand, both are dominant rebounders and this is an area of improvement for Bamba. He relies on size right now and hasn't shown the mentality to crash the defensive glass at the HS level - I hope he works on positioning and mentality to be a dominant defensive rebounder. That must be his priority. After that he should be looking to improve his hands as they aren't bad but not great either. Compared to Gobert and especially Whiteside I feel much more comfortable with Bamba contesting Guards at the perimeter in defensive PnR situations, though.

Bamba is one of the best defensive prospects over the past ten years, imo.


Given how you just described him, I am certain we will hear a bunch of Anthony Davis comparisons if he goes to Kentucky.

Perhaps, yes. It's unlikely that he develops like Davis offensively but offense, as we all know, wasn't Davis calling card back then. Bamba could have a chance to approach Davis' block numbers although that's really tough to do. He's very mobile for his size but if i had to guess I'd say that he prevents opponents from penetrating more but ultimately won't block as many shots as Davis due to stylistic differences.

I can only recommend to watch full games of Westtown on youtube. Not only Bamba but also Anthony Randolph (#34 on ESPN, 4* Arizona commit) and Cameron Reddish (#4 on ESPN for 2018) play there. Bamba really doesn't care for rebounding enough for my liking unless it's in his vicnity but he can block anyone anywhere - his inside presence is huge but he regularly blocks players on close-outs at the perimter as well. And on offense his soft touch really stands out - though not much offense is run through him in the high or low post.
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Post#1626 » by No-Man » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:22 pm

Watched the MAA scrimmage, super quick thoughts;

Quade Green is gonna be a good pro, dunno to what level, but the guy is rock solid.
Bamba is unreal long and plays hard, he ate Ayton's lunch, not that it matters in a practice or w/e, but the guy is active, his shooting doesnt look good, flat and misses short and bad, doesnt get much lift vertically but with his arms, who cares, looks stronger than last time I saw him.
Not liking Sexton, other than in the open floor he doesnt look to pass, like ever.
PJ Washington is pretty unathletic, looks storng and maybe has that old man's game to score, touch looked good, but meh, Vanderbilt looked like a better prospect, handles is super fluid for his heigth, they said that the shooting has come along, we will have to see I guess.
Ayton and Porter didnt do much from what I've seen of the scrimmage, just 0 flashes.
Mitchell Robinson has a superweird body, thin, no lower body strength, damn quick feet, but low awareness, got beat by the ball all the time, jumps at every opportunity to get a steal/block, super long, awkward, lanky, has a hunchback in the way he moves, clearly there is some potential there, but he needs a ton of work.
Jaron Jackson was the best shooter out there, fluid mechanics, a bit low release, but can hit it for sure.
Billy Preston seems ready to step in Lawrence and play from day 1, looks solid physically, can put it on the floor too, typical Self big.

The rest didnt really jump out to me, If I were to bet, the East Team is gonna kick the West Team ass bad tomorrow.
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Post#1627 » by Marcus » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:24 pm

The-Power wrote:
Brauer wrote:
The-Power wrote:I think neither is a good comparison actually unless we're talking about measurements only.

Bamba has a solid shooting touch out to the 3pt-line, something neither Whiteside nor Gobert have. On the other hand, both are dominant rebounders and this is an area of improvement for Bamba. He relies on size right now and hasn't shown the mentality to crash the defensive glass at the HS level - I hope he works on positioning and mentality to be a dominant defensive rebounder. That must be his priority. After that he should be looking to improve his hands as they aren't bad but not great either. Compared to Gobert and especially Whiteside I feel much more comfortable with Bamba contesting Guards at the perimeter in defensive PnR situations, though.

Bamba is one of the best defensive prospects over the past ten years, imo.


Given how you just described him, I am certain we will hear a bunch of Anthony Davis comparisons if he goes to Kentucky.

Perhaps, yes. It's unlikely that he develops like Davis offensively but offense, as we all know, wasn't Davis calling card back then. Bamba could have a chance to approach Davis' block numbers although that's really tough to do. He's very mobile for his size but if i had to guess I'd say that he prevents opponents from penetrating more but ultimately won't block as many shots as Davis due to stylistic differences.

I can only recommend to watch full games of Westtown on youtube. Not only Bamba but also Anthony Randolph (#34 on ESPN, 4* Arizona commit) and Cameron Reddish (#4 on ESPN for 2018) play there. Bamba really doesn't care for rebounding enough for my liking unless it's in his vicnity but he can block anyone anywhere - his inside presence is huge but he regularly blocks players on close-outs at the perimter as well. And on offense his soft touch really stands out - though not much offense is run through him in the high or low post.


Reddish was pretty impressive the one time I got a chance to watch him.
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Post#1628 » by The-Power » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:56 pm

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Reddish was pretty impressive the one time I got a chance to watch him.

Yeah, great tools. Really solid athlete, potentially a great passer with ideal size. If he wants to keep being the primary playmaker at the next level - he plays PG for Westtown - he needs to tighten up his handles or else he'll have (even more) trouble in traffic. Has the tools to be a consistent shooter but has still much room to improve. Throws some lazy passes and his defense is really poor at the perimeter as he gets easily beaten by basically anybody. Could be a lack of effort and focus, though. They are vastly more talented than almost anybody else after all.
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Post#1629 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:58 pm

Marcus wrote:
The-Power wrote:
Brauer wrote:
Given how you just described him, I am certain we will hear a bunch of Anthony Davis comparisons if he goes to Kentucky.

Perhaps, yes. It's unlikely that he develops like Davis offensively but offense, as we all know, wasn't Davis calling card back then. Bamba could have a chance to approach Davis' block numbers although that's really tough to do. He's very mobile for his size but if i had to guess I'd say that he prevents opponents from penetrating more but ultimately won't block as many shots as Davis due to stylistic differences.

I can only recommend to watch full games of Westtown on youtube. Not only Bamba but also Anthony Randolph (#34 on ESPN, 4* Arizona commit) and Cameron Reddish (#4 on ESPN for 2018) play there. Bamba really doesn't care for rebounding enough for my liking unless it's in his vicnity but he can block anyone anywhere - his inside presence is huge but he regularly blocks players on close-outs at the perimter as well. And on offense his soft touch really stands out - though not much offense is run through him in the high or low post.


Reddish was pretty impressive the one time I got a chance to watch him.


Reddish is a really skilled kid. 6'8 but plays a good amount of PG or point forward, he moves very well as well and has a really good jumper. His explosiveness though may come into question as he gets to college and the NBA.
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Post#1630 » by The-Power » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:24 pm

Fischella wrote:Not liking Sexton, other than in the open floor he doesnt look to pass, like ever.

Sexton can be fun to watch. Flashy, quick, creative, aggressive and skilled. But he plays streetball out there and likes to play the crowd and take on what he feels like are personal challenges within games. If he doesn't change his approach drastically he's not going to get very far. Is Alabama the right place to do so? I have my doubts but who knows.
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Post#1631 » by Disposable Hero » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:16 am

watching the McDonald's All American game I dvr'd. Everyone is performing as I expected. The announcers keep saying they see barely any one and dones but they're crazy. This class is loaded. Maybe not with guards (though there are a few) but everywhere else it is. All the size has me wondering if the top guards are undersized lol because they look so short out there in comparison to these 6'10"/6'11" monsters. I can't believe my Cs might get one of these bigs. Crazy
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Post#1632 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:22 am

The-Power wrote:
Fischella wrote:Not liking Sexton, other than in the open floor he doesnt look to pass, like ever.

Sexton can be fun to watch. Flashy, quick, creative, aggressive and skilled. But he plays streetball out there and likes to play the crowd and take on what he feels like are personal challenges within games. If he doesn't change his approach drastically he's not going to get very far. Is Alabama the right place to do so? I have my doubts but who knows.


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Post#1633 » by No-Man » Tue Apr 4, 2017 2:24 pm

Hopefully with the championship Knox leans towards UNC, I am afraid that both Berry and Pinson will jump ship after this, they are both fringe guys that are probably better off starting already with their dleague journey, also they probably will feel weird and left-out if JJ and the Senior group leave and they stay behind.

UNC got basically this;

Felton/Woods
Woods/Platek
Williams/Robinson
Maye/Manley
Bradley/Huffman

We obviously could use Knox.
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I am not really sure how is Self gonna make it work, if we assume Graham, Newman, Svi, maybe Vick, maybe Azubuike, are out, is Dedric gonna play the 5 next to Preston? Preston doesnt look like a OAD to me, I mean,...that'd be unprecedented for him, no Center? :lol: Bill Self?

And if not he is gonna have to play one of those 2 either at the 3 or from the bench, which is as weird.
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Post#1636 » by jonjames » Tue May 2, 2017 12:31 pm

Kansas reloading. Lawson brothers and Charlie Moore pg out of cal was a real nice pick up for them. Reminds lil of yogi ferrell. A lil inexperienced but I think this team is loaded enough to bring a title.

Devonte Graham/Charlie Moore
Malik Newman/Lagerald Vick
Svi Myhkailuk/ Sam Cunliffe
Dedrick Lawson/Billy Preston/KJ lawson
Udoka Azubuike/Dwight coleby
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Post#1637 » by TheSuzerain » Tue May 2, 2017 4:50 pm

jonjames wrote:Kansas reloading. Lawson brothers and Charlie Moore pg out of cal was a real nice pick up for them. Reminds lil of yogi ferrell. A lil inexperienced but I think this team is loaded enough to bring a title.

Devonte Graham/Charlie Moore
Malik Newman/Lagerald Vick
Svi Myhkailuk/ Sam Cunliffe
Dedrick Lawson/Billy Preston/KJ lawson
Udoka Azubuike/Dwight coleby

Graham and Svi won't overlap with Moore and the Lawsons.
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Post#1638 » by No-Man » Tue May 2, 2017 5:44 pm

jonjames wrote:Kansas reloading. Lawson brothers and Charlie Moore pg out of cal was a real nice pick up for them. Reminds lil of yogi ferrell. A lil inexperienced but I think this team is loaded enough to bring a title.

Devonte Graham/Charlie Moore
Malik Newman/Lagerald Vick
Svi Myhkailuk/ Sam Cunliffe
Dedrick Lawson/Billy Preston/KJ lawson
Udoka Azubuike/Dwight coleby

Moore and the Lawsons won't play next year, they got;

Graham-Garrett
Newman-Cunliffe
Mykhailiuk-Vick
Preston-Lightfoot
Azubuike-Coleby

Graham, Svi, and probably Preston, Newman, Vick and Udoka would be gone after next year, so Moore, the Lawsons and the new recruiting class will take over.
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