College basketball and 2017 draft - One more poll after last game

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

The reason Ball is so obvious is because of his ceiling. If he worked out, with this team, he could make ours an elite offense. Defense be damned, but you can figure out the details down the line.

I wouldn't be shocked if we drafted him #1 or if he fell to us at #3. I'd be shocked if he fell any further. Fultz-Ball-Jackson seems the most likely draft order.

[nashrambler13]

While I wait for us to be screwed in the lottery, I can't even bear to compare Fultz/Ball/Jackson. I just want one of those three, that's all I know.

[ATTL]

I'm ready to move on from bledsoe. I know our team stinks without him but I think one of bal or fultz will mitigate that, along with the return of Tyson, youth improvement, and whatever we get for bledsoe.

[BrianFitz11]

I'm ready to move on from bledsoe. I know our team stinks without him but I think one of bal or fultz will mitigate that, along with the return of Tyson, youth improvement, and whatever we get for bledsoe.

I'd only be willing to do that for Fultz or Dennis Smith Jr. Both of them are explosive and can score at will while putting up typical assist numbers for a PG. For Bled, I definitely want a top 10 (preferably top 5) pick in this draft and another first for next year. Imagine Fultz, Booker, one of either Jackson/Tatum and Warren, Chriss, Chandler with Bender and Williams off the bench. Add that to the huge amount of money we can spend in the offseason if we choose to go for it, and thise team could be heading for the 2018 playoffs


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[King4Day]

I'm ready to move on from bledsoe. I know our team stinks without him but I think one of bal or fultz will mitigate that, along with the return of Tyson, youth improvement, and whatever we get for bledsoe.

I'd only be willing to do that for Fultz or Dennis Smith Jr. Both of them are explosive and can score at will while putting up typical assist numbers for a PG. For Bled, I definitely want a top 10 (preferably top 5) pick in this draft and another first for next year. Imagine Fultz, Booker, one of either Jackson/Tatum and Warren, Chriss, Chandler with Bender and Williams off the bench. Add that to the huge amount of money we can spend in the offseason if we choose to go for it, and thise team could be heading for the 2018 playoffs


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It'd be pretty difficult to nab a top 5 for EB this year, nevermind another pick on top of that. IF we did get a top 5 for EB, I'd be more than OK with that.

Long term, I want the goal to be to have money for Anthony Davis when he's a FA again in a few years. We could have a team that is ready to win and him being the final piece could be attractive to him.

[RaisingArizona]

Ball just because him next to Booker, Chriss and Warren would really help their development. Plus last year we drafted two big men so I'd go ball over Issac and Tatum although I like them all.

[bwgood77]

Well, clearly Ball ranks at worst 3rd among the group, at least consensus wise, as the vote was 22-3, not including mine, because I am not sure yet, so now I'd like to see who the majority would want at #2 if Fultz is gone.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Alot of these polls end up voting for best fit, I'm still at a loss at how popular Kaminsky was 2 years ago.

[RaisingArizona]

Tough but Ball if we can Move Bled for another pick. Might be able to still get Tatum or Issac if they slip

[MathiasPW]

Well, clearly Ball ranks at worst 3rd among the group, at least consensus wise, as the vote was 22-3, not including mine, because I am not sure yet, so now I'd like to see who the majority would want at #2 if Fultz is gone.

I believe people have Ball, Fultz and Jackson as game changers, with maybe different order of preference among them, and different risk profiles.

After that, Tatum, Isaac, Smith, Fox and Monk are all good pieces to add to a team, but not good enough to build around.

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[Mulhollanddrive]

I have Ball and Jackson more in the elite role player category like a Rondo or Iguodala, All-Star calibre but maybe not the guy that changes your franchise.

That's why it's important to me to know whether you build around Booker as your no.1-2 or if we're still looking for that player, you can take a potential lead scorer with other options.

[bwgood77]

I have Ball and Jackson more in the elite role player category like a Rondo or Iguodala, All-Star calibre but maybe not the guy that changes your franchise.

That's why it's important to me to know whether you build around Booker as your no.1-2 or if we're still looking for that player, you can take a potential lead scorer with other options.

It's still too early to decide that. It almost matters just HOW good he becomes offensively and if you care about defense. Harden for example is the #1 option, but doesn't play much defense. He is most like #2 on a championship team, but it will be extremely tough to come across a #1. Maybe Josh Jackson is that guy. Maybe Fultz is. I don't know. Obviously too early to know on them.

[AtheJ415]

I have a feeling we're going to take Tatum or Isaac, even if it means trading down to do so. Not sure why I just do.

[Qwigglez]

Josh Jackson so he can be our Pippen/Odom.
I project Josh Jackson's floor to be MKG. Hoping for him to at least reach Otto Porter status, and maybe his ceiling is a Kawhi Leonard.

[Mulhollanddrive]

No wing has reached that star level shooting 56% FT, Josh Smith as a floor comparison was even at 63%.

[NTB]

Josh Jackson so he can be our Pippen/Odom.
I project Josh Jackson's floor to be MKG. Hoping for him to at least reach Otto Porter status, and maybe his ceiling is a Kawhi Leonard.

or Marion.

Nash/Marion/Amare

Booker/Jackson/Chriss

Of course they can't be compared at the moment and Nash and Booker is different but still..

[jcsunsfan]

http://www.thasportsjunkies101.com/lonzo-ball-top-pick/

Interesting for all you numbers geeks. They say Ball is significantly better than Fultz on both offense and defense and back it up with stats. Not sure what to make of it

[MrMiyagi]

Part of me really wants Jackson, but another part really wants Ball. I know people worry about Ball's ability to play pick and roll, but the guy is just a hell of a passer and knows how to move without the ball. I think he'd elevate Chriss, TJ, Bender, and Booker. Jackson improves ball movement as well, and should be damn good defender, which I think we really need (Bender might be that guy, but we still don't know for sure, and 2 versatile defenders is never a bad thing). I don't think there is really a wrong choice here and would be happy with both, but I think I'll give Ball the slight edge.

[Zelaznyrules]

http://www.thasportsjunkies101.com/lonzo-ball-top-pick/

Interesting for all you numbers geeks. They say Ball is significantly better than Fultz on both offense and defense and back it up with stats. Not sure what to make of it

Yeah, I've never understood the concerns over Ball or the argument for number one. I think he's clearly the easiest call to make as far as on court performance goes. There might be a surprise superstar or two that vault over everyone down the road (such as Giannis or Jokic) but among the known quantities, Ball is superior now and probably in the future. It can be difficult to play at your highest level when there is an air of defeat around the program so perhaps Fultz has another level that's yet to reveal itself but Lonzo has outplayed him by quite a margin IMO.

All that said, I'm not sure I'd take Ball if I were drafting first. I just wouldn't want to deal with the father, our franchise has enough public relations problems already. I've suggested a trade-down many times although it might be hard to find a deal that makes sense to us unless Philly helps push the Lakers out of the top 3. And the situation with Josh Jackson will need to be evaluated closely. He has serious holes in his offensive game and if the background investigation and face to face interviews don't answer enough questions about the holes in his private life, we might have to look past him too (not a prediction, merely a concern). But still, that leaves us what? Tatum?

[MrMiyagi]

Yeah, I've never understood the concerns over Ball or the argument for number one. I think he's clearly the easiest call to make as far as on court performance goes. There might be a surprise superstar or two that vault over everyone down the road (such as Giannis or Jokic) but among the known quantities, Ball is superior now and probably in the future. It can be difficult to play at your highest level when there is an air of defeat around the program so perhaps Fultz has another level that's yet to reveal itself but Lonzo has outplayed him by quite a margin IMO.

All that said, I'm not sure I'd take Ball if I were drafting first. I just wouldn't want to deal with the father, our franchise has enough public relations problems already. I've suggested a trade-down many times although it might be hard to find a deal that makes sense to us unless Philly helps push the Lakers out of the top 3. And the situation with Josh Jackson will need to be evaluated closely. He has serious holes in his offensive game and if the background investigation and face to face interviews don't answer enough questions about the holes in his private life, we might have to look past him too (not a prediction, merely a concern). But still, that leaves us what? Tatum?