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Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader

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Re: Draftees 2016 – Brown, Yabusele, Žižić, Jackson, Nader 

Post#1001 » by Parliament10 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:07 pm

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Post#1002 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:10 pm

Red Claws clinch the Atlantic Division title with a win. Not that any of us care lol. We're not the Raptors.
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Post#1003 » by Parliament10 » Sun Mar 26, 2017 5:18 pm

CrowderKeg wrote:Red Claws clinch the Atlantic Division title with a win. Not that any of us care lol. We're not the Raptors.

Hope Yabusele can get on there, by the Playoffs.
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Post#1004 » by ConstableGeneva » Sun Mar 26, 2017 8:22 pm




Mickey with 22p, 8r, 2a, 3b in 37 mins. Nader with 29p (5/12 from 3), 8r, 3a, 2b in 38 mins. Claws lose to Reno, 128-115.
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Post#1006 » by _UnderScore » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:06 am

I know Nader is a D-league star but what do y'all think his ceiling in the pros is?
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Post#1007 » by 15th overall » Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:05 am

I realize this is hyperbolic but does anybody else think KlayKlone when watching this Nader kid? More smoothness factor than me pretending to look at stat comparisons or ya'know--- anything factual.

Either way I loved him in SL the first time around. Legit excited to see him the next go around. Got legit potential to be an 8+yr vet if he plays his cards right IMO. This league is made for guys like that ATM.

EDIT: I used "legit" in back2back sentences here. Choosing to just highlight this vs "fixing" it.
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Post#1008 » by cl2117 » Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:02 am

_UnderScore wrote:I know Nader is a D-league star but what do y'all think his ceiling in the pros is?

I'd say an Evan Turner/Jared Dudley type hybrid.

I keep comparing his old-man style to Pierce, but you need to be particularly special player in order to make that type of game work at an all-star level or higher, and as much as I like the kid he's not on that level. Those are two guys who have a similar style that are more in his league talent-wise.

I think he can be some combo of Dudley/Turner if he reaches his ceiling. A better shooter than Turner, but worse ball-handler and distributor (not as much of a point-forward). He's closer to Dudley's level of shooting, probably a little worse, but with better ball skills. Similar defense (meaning just OK) to both.

That's a steal though with the 58th pick. He can be a very reliable guy off the bench.

Ideally you get the best of both worlds and you end up with ET-lite, but who can operate without the ball in his hands and hit 3's as well as he does long 2's / Dudley-lite who can be more offensively than just a spot-up shooter and who can take it to the rack.
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Post#1011 » by sam_I_am » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:20 pm

15th overall wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic but does anybody else think KlayKlone when watching this Nader kid? More smoothness factor than me pretending to look at stat comparisons or ya'know--- anything factual.

Either way I loved him in SL the first time around. Legit excited to see him the next go around. Got legit potential to be an 8+yr vet if he plays his cards right IMO. This league is made for guys like that ATM.

EDIT: I used "legit" in back2back sentences here. Choosing to just highlight this vs "fixing" it.


I do see Klay light but with much less shooting brilliance.... which is what makes Klay so good.
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Post#1012 » by coach mang » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:54 pm

can dancing bear become pre-injury eric williams? si or no?
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Post#1013 » by Homerclease » Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:58 pm

coach mang wrote:can dancing bear become pre-injury eric williams? si or no?

I hope so except E couldn't shoot a lick. I have a totally unreasonable hatred for Williams, never liked the guy and never had any particular reason why either
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Post#1014 » by Gant » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:52 pm

The Red Claws coach Scott Morrison on Yabusele:

“I don’t think the film did justice to his physical prowess,” Morrison said. “He’s a big guy who can move around and has good skills.”

Morrison said he plans to use Yabusele as both a power forward and center, adding that the positions are mostly interchangeable in Maine’s offense. Morrison said the Red Claws’ next two opponents feature smaller, more perimeter-oriented frontcourt players, so they will offer a good challenge for the 6-foot-8-inch, 240-pound Frenchman.

“I’m sure a player of his caliber will not hurt our chances to move on,” Morrison said. “But at the end of the day, our job is to develop players, including those who have ties to Boston. I hope we can get in the postseason so we have a couple of games to get him comfortable.”


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Post#1015 » by mbsnmisc » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:00 pm

15th overall wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic but does anybody else think KlayKlone when watching this Nader kid? More smoothness factor than me pretending to look at stat comparisons or ya'know--- anything factual.

Either way I loved him in SL the first time around. Legit excited to see him the next go around. Got legit potential to be an 8+yr vet if he plays his cards right IMO. This league is made for guys like that ATM.

EDIT: I used "legit" in back2back sentences here. Choosing to just highlight this vs "fixing" it.

Legit analysis. Really legit. :D
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Post#1016 » by jfs1000d » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:13 am

Should be interesting. I like yabs a lot as a prospect.


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Post#1017 » by 31to6 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:24 am

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coach mang wrote:can dancing bear become pre-injury eric williams? si or no?

I hope so except E couldn't shoot a lick. I have a totally unreasonable hatred for Williams, never liked the guy and never had any particular reason why either


Loved Eric Williams. Interesting comparison (not sure if I see it, but interesting).
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Post#1018 » by greenroom31 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:55 am

15th overall wrote:I realize this is hyperbolic but does anybody else think KlayKlone when watching this Nader kid? More smoothness factor than me pretending to look at stat comparisons or ya'know--- anything factual.

Either way I loved him in SL the first time around. Legit excited to see him the next go around. Got legit potential to be an 8+yr vet if he plays his cards right IMO. This league is made for guys like that ATM.

EDIT: I used "legit" in back2back sentences here. Choosing to just highlight this vs "fixing" it.


Klay comp might be hyperbole, but I think he is legit better than Young, Jerebko and Green right now.
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Post#1019 » by 12buckets » Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:30 am

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coach mang wrote:can dancing bear become pre-injury eric williams? si or no?

I hope so except E couldn't shoot a lick. I have a totally unreasonable hatred for Williams, never liked the guy and never had any particular reason why either


Loved Eric Williams. Interesting comparison (not sure if I see it, but interesting).


I still like Markieff Morris as a comp. Mobile PF, shoots the 3, can put it on the floor and get momentum behind a drive to the hoop, who mixes it up with bigger guys when he needs to (at least he used to).

Both are tweeners in that SF/PF role who will end up playing much more PF than SF when it's all said and done.
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Post#1020 » by Parliament10 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:22 am

12buckets wrote:
31to6 wrote:
Homerclease wrote:I hope so except E couldn't shoot a lick. I have a totally unreasonable hatred for Williams, never liked the guy and never had any particular reason why either


Loved Eric Williams. Interesting comparison (not sure if I see it, but interesting).


I still like Markieff Morris as a comp. Mobile PF, shoots the 3, can put it on the floor and get momentum behind a drive to the hoop, who mixes it up with bigger guys when he needs to (at least he used to).

Both are tweeners in that SF/PF role who will end up playing much more PF than SF when it's all said and done.

In the NBA, Nader would be more of a SF/SG/(PG); a 3-2-1. -- He's not so much a PF, on NBA terms.
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