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Pablo Novi wrote:Did anybody see how Westbrook and Harden treated each other after their head-to-head match-up? They hugged like the long-time true friends they are.
Besides each of them is giving us, the fans, MAXIMUM entertainment (and beautiful b-ball to boot).
Why the BLEEP do their FANS need to hate either of them?
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bondom34 wrote:Pablo Novi wrote:Did anybody see how Westbrook and Harden treated each other after their head-to-head match-up? They hugged like the long-time true friends they are.
Besides each of them is giving us, the fans, MAXIMUM entertainment (and beautiful b-ball to boot).
Why the BLEEP do their FANS need to hate either of them?
TBH, I don't. Durant I do, Harden's cool by me.
heatwillbeback wrote:People are going to look back and wonder how three top 20 players of all time were (1) on the same team and (2) didn't win a title together. It's crazy how good that OKC team looks now.
CobraCommander wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:People are going to look back and wonder how three top 20 players of all time were (1) on the same team and (2) didn't win a title together. It's crazy how good that OKC team looks now.
I agree that you have to blame it on the GM, the owner and the coach and their shot sightedness and lack of patience
3 in the top 20???? Wow thats a bold pronouncement.
I dont know if Durant is going to be counted as one of the all time greats because no matter what he doesnt seem like a true "warrior". Someone who is driven to win and willing to drag his team to the mountain top. teaming up with a 2 time MVP while they are both in thier primes makes me and a lot of people question his heart.
Harden is all offense and if you gonna call him top 20 then you gotta throw Nique in there!
Westbrook is all time great by virtue of avg a triple double...when you one of two men to do something as difficult as avg a triple double for the season...there is a special place in the halls of Valhalla!
bondom34 wrote:michaelm wrote:RightToCensor wrote:I've seen plenty of overreactions in this thread after single games, this will blow over soon.
I just want to repeat that Harden leads the league in APG, leads the league in points created, and is second in PPG. We don't have the 3rd best record in the league without him, we're not in the playoffs without him. The player keeping the Rockets in playoff position for the past five seasons is James Harden.
I would personally even argue that their pattern of play which is based on Harden is more team oriented that that of the Thunder, and hence holds together better when he is not on the court.
A pattern of play based on admittedly heroic individual efforts from Westbrook is completely bereft when he sits.
I'd argue there's 1 other ball handler on the entire roster and his backup has been bad at every level of pro basketball.
CobraCommander wrote:heatwillbeback wrote:People are going to look back and wonder how three top 20 players of all time were (1) on the same team and (2) didn't win a title together. It's crazy how good that OKC team looks now.
I agree that you have to blame it on the GM, the owner and the coach and their shot sightedness and lack of patience
3 in the top 20???? Wow thats a bold pronouncement.
I dont know if Durant is going to be counted as one of the all time greats because no matter what he doesnt seem like a true "warrior". Someone who is driven to win and willing to drag his team to the mountain top. teaming up with a 2 time MVP while they are both in thier primes makes me and a lot of people question his heart.
Harden is all offense and if you gonna call him top 20 then you gotta throw Nique in there!
Westbrook is all time great by virtue of avg a triple double...when you one of two men to do something as difficult as avg a triple double for the season...there is a special place in the halls of Valhalla!
Pablo Novi wrote:Did anybody see how Westbrook and Harden treated each other after their head-to-head match-up? They hugged like the long-time true friends they are.
Besides each of them is giving us, the fans, MAXIMUM entertainment (and beautiful b-ball to boot).
Why the BLEEP do their FANS need to hate either of them?
K_chile22 wrote:
Coxy wrote:I think with a PG like George Hill, they'd be better than current.
NaturalThunder wrote:K_chile22 wrote:
Isn't "needing crazy comebacks against bad teams" somewhat a plus for Westbrook? Isn't it a testament to how poor his supporting cast that Russ needs crazy stat lines and impossibly clutch fourth quarters for the Thunder to eek out close wins over bad teams? Oladipo is their second best player and he's wildly inconsistent. Kanter has been outplaying Adams (who's been trash) for two months, the rest of OKC's roster other than Taj is awful, and Billy Donovan is a moron. I mean Donovan has given Semaj "I Might Be The Worst Player In The NBA" Christon 17 MPG over OKC's last 11 games.
michaelm wrote:bondom34 wrote:michaelm wrote:I would personally even argue that their pattern of play which is based on Harden is more team oriented that that of the Thunder, and hence holds together better when he is not on the court.
A pattern of play based on admittedly heroic individual efforts from Westbrook is completely bereft when he sits.
I'd argue there's 1 other ball handler on the entire roster and his backup has been bad at every level of pro basketball.
That may well be true, I don't watch either team enough to know.
Both teams were not rated before the season and both are doing much better than expected, but Harden's team to a greater extent, as I have previously said.
You are quite likely correct that the Thunder's Westbrook focused approach is of necessity, but I don't see that the rest of Harden's team, who were not I believe really rated any higher as a supporting cast than Westbrook's before the season, playing more cohesively/better, even when he sits, than the Thunder supporting cast is any argument against Harden. I am stunned that Harden has proved to be so effective playing basically as Houston's point guard, btw.
(EDIT As I was going to add anyway, perhaps it comes down to Harden's supporting cast being better coached, again hardly a knock on Harden. Like the following poster, I wonder what that coach could have done with all 3 of Westbrook, KD and Harden).
RightToCensor wrote:Pablo Novi wrote:Did anybody see how Westbrook and Harden treated each other after their head-to-head match-up? They hugged like the long-time true friends they are.
Besides each of them is giving us, the fans, MAXIMUM entertainment (and beautiful b-ball to boot).
Why the BLEEP do their FANS need to hate either of them?
I can't +1 this enough
Pablo Novi wrote:michaelm wrote:bondom34 wrote:I'd argue there's 1 other ball handler on the entire roster and his backup has been bad at every level of pro basketball.
That may well be true, I don't watch either team enough to know.
Both teams were not rated before the season and both are doing much better than expected, but Harden's team to a greater extent, as I have previously said.
You are quite likely correct that the Thunder's Westbrook focused approach is of necessity, but I don't see that the rest of Harden's team, who were not I believe really rated any higher as a supporting cast than Westbrook's before the season, playing more cohesively/better, even when he sits, than the Thunder supporting cast is any argument against Harden. I am stunned that Harden has proved to be so effective playing basically as Houston's point guard, btw.
(EDIT As I was going to add anyway, perhaps it comes down to Harden's supporting cast being better coached, again hardly a knock on Harden. Like the following poster, I wonder what that coach could have done with all 3 of Westbrook, KD and Harden).
Seeing as I was "the following poster"; is this kind of, sort of, maybe a compliment to me? lol
The same back to you. lol