2017 Draft

[skywalker33]

Can't say I've seen/know enough to take a rick on Hartenstein, seems our scouting staff should though. Love your Dream Scenario Isaac could easily replace Gallo IMO

Hartstien can shoot it, pass it, finish at the rim. Athletic for a euro big. Decent shot blocker, looks competent guarding on the perimeter. Kinda had that Nurkic edge to him. Looks like a good fit next to Jokic, but like you said, I'll defer to our scouting group on whether or not he'll be good in the league.

Sounds a little like Cornelie. If we unstash him and keep Plumlee, there's redundancy and with Malone's lack of rookie playing time, it seems a waste of a pick. He'll get buried too deep.

Except Cornilie weighs 210 vs the 242 that Hartenstein weighs. He's more of a PF/C while I can see Cornelie can play PF/SF/C IMO. I can see SoCal's intrigue with the bigman, kinda in the Dirk/Porzingas mold.

[NuggetsWY]

Hartstien can shoot it, pass it, finish at the rim. Athletic for a euro big. Decent shot blocker, looks competent guarding on the perimeter. Kinda had that Nurkic edge to him. Looks like a good fit next to Jokic, but like you said, I'll defer to our scouting group on whether or not he'll be good in the league.

Sounds a little like Cornelie. If we unstash him and keep Plumlee, there's redundancy and with Malone's lack of rookie playing time, it seems a waste of a pick. He'll get buried too deep.

Except Cornilie weighs 210 vs the 242 that Hartenstein weighs. He's more of a PF/C while I can see Cornelie can play PF/SF/C IMO. I can see SoCal's intrigue with the bigman, kinda in the Dirk/Porzingas mold.

Agreed - somewhat - I still think we need to focus on a SF with our draft pick - but I wouldn't be upset with Hartstien

[skywalker33]

There's my boy Anunoby !!! But realistically it will depend on our free agen/tradet targets/acquisitions. If we sign Porter ore resign Gallo,

[SoCalNuggsFan]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

[NuggetsWY]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

Agree with the logic Don't agree with the order

[SoCalNuggsFan]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

Agree with the logic Don't agree with the order

What would you change?

[Acountant_Z]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

I both agree and disagree.
What our team needs more than anything is a good point guard. Mudiey did not work out, Murray is not a PG at least not for a while and Nelson is not an answer.
I would not want to draft a point guard I would like a vet PG, I'd go after George Hill.
Drafting an SF is no brainer.

[NuggetsWY]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

Agree with the logic Don't agree with the order

What would you change?

If you promise not to tell Skywalker, I'd put Anuoby first.
From the rest of your list, I wouldn't argue too much against any of them but my order would probably be:

Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
John Collins
Isiah Hartstien

[NuggetsWY]

I think the pick has to be a SF or PF this year. Even if we get the #1 pick, bringing Fultz or Ball in just crowds the back court and will create a Jokic/Nurkic situation where one of Murray/Harris or the draft pick will need to be moved in a year or 2.

So I'd target, in order:
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
Jayson Tatum
Isiah Hartstien
John Collins
OG Anuoby

Then look to fill the other forward spot in FA, and if that can't be done keep either chandler or faried.

I both agree and disagree.
What our team needs more than anything is a good point guard. Mudiey did not work out, Murray is not a PG at least not for a while and Nelson is not an answer.
I would not want to draft a point guard I would like a vet PG, I'd go after George Hill.
Drafting an SF is no brainer.

Don't drink the kool aid - Murray was a PG all of his life, including the Canadian National team until his only year at Kentucky and this year in Denver. He's exactly what the modern PG should be. He can drive & finish. He can spot up and he can create and pass. All he needs is a chance to play PG. He's certainly better than Nelson and Barton.

There is still hope that Mudiay can develop into the player he was projected to be and it's too early to give up on him IMO. Beasley & Harris could both make an emergency appearance at PG but a 3rd PG, especially veteran would be nice. But we all know Nelson will be Malone's starter next year.

I vote strongly against drafting a PG for the 3rd year in a row - just wish this was a democracy and my vote counted.

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Agree with the logic Don't agree with the order

What would you change?

If you promise not to tell Skywalker, I'd put Anuoby first.
From the rest of your list, I wouldn't argue too much against any of them but my order would probably be:

Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
John Collins
Isiah Hartstien

Wow that high on OG? I like him. Would've been a little higher on that list if not for the injury. But his offensive celing is really low. Josh Jackson has every bit the defensive upside while also having the potential to develop into a 20 point scorer and one of the best passing wings in the league.

[psimanic1]

What would Bos ask for BKN 2018 1st? It would be nice to get Luka Doncic, if not, i wouldn't mind Dzanan Musa to pair with Muray, Harris, Jokic..

[NuggetsWY]

What would you change?

If you promise not to tell Skywalker, I'd put Anuoby first.
From the rest of your list, I wouldn't argue too much against any of them but my order would probably be:

Jayson Tatum
Josh Jackson
Johnathan Isaac
John Collins
Isiah Hartstien

Wow that high on OG? I like him. Would've been a little higher on that list if not for the injury. But his offensive celing is really low. Josh Jackson has every bit the defensive upside while also having the potential to develop into a 20 point scorer and one of the best passing wings in the league.

I hear you and totally get it. I just think Anouby has the potential and more important, I think he'll fit in perfectly with Jokic, Hernangomez, and Murray. He's the kind of player that can cut and finish at the hoop.

[NuggetsWY]

What would Bos ask for BKN 2018 1st? It would be nice to get Luka Doncic, if not, i wouldn't mind Dzanan Musa to pair with Muray, Harris, Jokic..

I doubt Boston would let Denver have the Brooklyn 2018 1st for anything less than Jokic. They have plenty of young assets that match everything the Nuggets have, more or less, except for Jokic (and maybe Murray).

[skywalker33]

Wow, this thread has been drifting off to fantasy land. There is literally no way we're getting close to being able to draft Jackson, Tatum and probably Isaac either.....I have a better chance of dating Alyssa Milano than the Nuggets moving up to drafting one of those guys Anunoby, Collins and another name name I'd like to get some feedback on, Miles Bridges, are within our range. We've been lucky so far, having Murray and Mudiay drop to us in the draft let's hope we get lucky one more time.

[NuggetsWY]

Wow, this thread has been drifting off to fantasy land. There is literally no way we're getting close to being able to draft Jackson, Tatum and probably Isaac either.....I have a better chance of dating Alyssa Milano than the Nuggets moving up to drafting one of those guys Anunoby, Collins and another name name I'd like to get some feedback on, Miles Bridges, are within our range. We've been lucky so far, having Murray and Mudiay drop to us in the draft let's hope we get lucky one more time.

Yeah, you're probably right, but then again, nobody thought Mudiay would drop to #7 and it was a little surprising Murray dropped to #7. But Jackson & Tatum seem extremely unlikely to drop to even #15 or so. But I don't know, there's something about Anunoby that I just really like. Sorta like Justice WInslow, I really really wanted him.

[skywalker33]

Wow, this thread has been drifting off to fantasy land. There is literally no way we're getting close to being able to draft Jackson, Tatum and probably Isaac either.....I have a better chance of dating Alyssa Milano than the Nuggets moving up to drafting one of those guys Anunoby, Collins and another name name I'd like to get some feedback on, Miles Bridges, are within our range. We've been lucky so far, having Murray and Mudiay drop to us in the draft let's hope we get lucky one more time.

Yeah, you're probably right, but then again, nobody thought Mudiay would drop to #7 and it was a little surprising Murray dropped to #7. But Jackson & Tatum seem extremely unlikely to drop to even #15 or so. But I don't know, there's something about Anunoby that I just really like. Sorta like Justice WInslow, I really really wanted him.

Agreed there's a possibility, but the PROBABILITY drops immensely when going from 6 teams in front of you to having 11 in front of you. This is a deep draft and teams like SAC and ORL ahead of us doesn't hurt, but even so, the BEST scenario would be Isaac, Fox or the German PG dropping to us.

[SoCalNuggsFan]

Wow, this thread has been drifting off to fantasy land. There is literally no way we're getting close to being able to draft Jackson, Tatum and probably Isaac either.....I have a better chance of dating Alyssa Milano than the Nuggets moving up to drafting one of those guys Anunoby, Collins and another name name I'd like to get some feedback on, Miles Bridges, are within our range. We've been lucky so far, having Murray and Mudiay drop to us in the draft let's hope we get lucky one more time.

As it stands, we have a 2.2% chance to end up in the top 3 to get Jackson, Tatum or issac. If you have better than a 2.2% chance at dating Alyssa Milano, .... respect.

As for bridges, not a fan. He seems like a bad tweener. Not big and strong enough to play 4, not enough perimeter skills to play 3. Michael Beasley-esque.

[skywalker33]

Hahahahaha...these are the Nuggets we're talking about, the NBA never will allow us to move up. Even when we've had the worst record, the best we ever did was move down to 3rd. So that 2.2% is more realistically looks like .000001% from what I experienced in my 45 years of watching the Nuggets. (which closer reflects my shot with Alyssa, ptc not the age )

Got to say I haven't been enamored with Bridges, but he comes from a great program, can score but I agree exactly with your description as a tweener and I've never been a fan of tweeners. Just food for thought. Still on the OG bandwagon, think he's a great fit with Jokic

[SoCalNuggsFan]

I think I've fount my favorite under the radar player of this years class. Cameron Oliver from Nevada. He's basically a 3 point shooting, shot blocking Kenneth Faried. If he pans out, basically exactly what I want next to Jokic, rim protector whose also agile enough to guard stretch 4s, and a finisher for playing off Jokic on offense.

Maybe OG with our first, then trade chandler or Barton to jump back into the first to grab Oliver? Make everyone happy.

[skywalker33]

I think I've fount my favorite under the radar player of this years class. Cameron Oliver from Nevada. He's basically a 3 point shooting, shot blocking Kenneth Faried. If he pans out, basically exactly what I want next to Jokic, rim protector whose also agile enough to guard stretch 4s, and a finisher for playing off Jokic on offense.

Maybe OG with our first, then trade chandler or Barton to jump back into the first to grab Oliver? Make everyone happy.

Most mocks that I've seen have him as a mid-to-late 2nd, I can't see him going in the 1st. He look like a solid player though. Good comparison as a Faried who can score.