Trade Ideas thread

[Merc_Porto]

I would expect LaVine plays on a minutes restriction next year as well.

Yeah right, minutes restriction with Thibs.

[Mattya]

Wiggins(18)/LaVine(25)/Dunn leftovers
Defensive player(30)/Wiggins(18)

Unless you think LaVine is going to come back from an ACL injury and play full minutes.

[Mattya]

I would expect LaVine plays on a minutes restriction next year as well.

Yeah right, minutes restriction with Thibs.

Oh right I forgot its also Thibs fault LaVine is injured as well right?

[Merc_Porto]

Which is role player minutes. So what is the matter with 24-28 minutes per game?

24-28 minutes for a role player only, that´s ok.
The problem is, there is Dunn, there is a draft pick in the range of 7-10 that most likely is going to be a SF.
And goodbye to the PJ Tucker (that you wanted so bad) or Sefolasha signings.

[Mattya]

Derrick Rose was given more time to recover from his injury and still got less minutes than he did before his injury, but no peddle me this Zach LaVine won't be on a minutes restriction because "Thibs" nonsense.

[Mattya]

Which is role player minutes. So what is the matter with 24-28 minutes per game?

24-28 minutes for a role player only, that´s ok.
The problem is, there is Dunn, there is a draft pick in the range of 7-10 that most likely is going to be a SF.
And goodbye to the PJ Tucker (that you wanted so bad) or Sefolasha signings.

Why goodbye to PJ Tucker or Sefolosha? Why not take away Tyus Jones and our draft picks minutes?

[Merc_Porto]

Derrick Rose was given more time to recover from his injury and still got less minutes than he did before his injury, but no peddle me this Zach LaVine won't be on a minutes restriction because "Thibs" nonsense.

Yeah, lets make like Zach Lavine after 10-15 games after recover from his injury is going to be on minutes restriction for the entire season. Under Thibs. Yeah, yeah. And lets also make like this going to last forever. To make it work for the defensive wing play 24-28 minutes. And the max contract players Wiggins and Lavine getting 28 minutes each.

Now, let's wake the **** up a little bit.

Why goodbye to PJ Tucker or Sefolosha? Why not take away Tyus Jones and our draft picks minutes?

And play Dunn as backup PG, when he clearly is not a PG. OK.

[Mattya]

Yeah, lets make like Zach Lavine after 10-15 games after recover from his injury is going to be on minutes restriction for the entire season. Under Thibs. Yeah, yeah. And lets also make like this going to last forever. To make it work for the defensive wing play 24-28 minutes. And the max contract players Wiggins and Lavine getting 28 minutes each.

Now, let's wake the **** up a little bit.

That is over a month of the season, and LaVine likely won't be back at the beginning of the season.

I agree, you do need to wake up.

And play Dunn as backup PG, when he clearly is not a PG. OK.

You want to improve the defense, take away the minutes from the weakest defenders, or trade for Jabari Parker like you said.

[Note30]

We trade the pick plus cole for crowder and zeller.

I'd love Crowder's fit and great contract, but it helps Boston achieve it's unstated goal to own the draft by getting every team's pick.

If we happen to win a top three pick, I don't think I'd even deal it for Jimmy Butler. Jimmy has a player option after two years. That new CBA could get you a great player for his entire career.

If we get a top 3 pick its different discussion but atm we're 8 or 9? In any case, I'd trade the 8th pick for Crowder. If we help Boston get Butler, and they sign hayward they might be more willing to part with another decent part in facilitation (maybe a traded down pick or our 2nd back?)

If we sign two tough SF/PF to the bench we should have some depth. We have 47ish mill in capspace if we take the trade, waive Pek and don't keep Bazz or Hill. Signing two decent players shouldn't be an issue here.

Andre Iguodala/Tony allen (2 year deal at high pay) / Tucker / Porter

and Green/Allen/Randolph (Memphis)

A FA (one/two of the 7 above) and crowder combo would be enough depth to the point where we could make the playoffs.

Rubio/Jones/Dunn
Wiggins / LaVine
Crowder /
/Bjelica
Towns / Dieng /Zeller

[rugbyrugger23]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Parker, although injured, solves the LaVine-Wiggins dilemma. (And I don't think a real resolution is moving one to bench...thread in itself).

Maker is better rim protector vs. anyone at 8-10 in draft.

After this trade, 8-10 can be BPA. If Dunn sent out in trade, probably a SG/PG type. If not, a SF who can play multiple positions.

So ask yourself, which core is better:
C: Towns
F: Dieng
F: 2017 1st/Wiggins
G: Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

OR

C: Towns/Dieng
F: Maker/Parker
F: Parker/2017 1st
G: LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

[Krapinsky]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Wiggins for Parker and Maker?????

And WE add more value?????????????????????????????????

[rugbyrugger23]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Wiggins for Parker and Maker?????

And WE add more value?????????????????????????????????

They won't discount Parker much for injury. Just as we wouldn't for LaVine. As Philly won't for Embiid.

I think prior to injury, as on non Wolves board, many had Parker and Wiggins very close in value. Some even Parker > Wiggins. Maker is not a throw-in.

With that said, if Thibs can get more value from Bucks, makes it a no brainer for me.

[HitmanCapone]

We don't have the advantage of being a free agent destination like Boston, Miami, or Los Angeles. Our only path to a championship is to have 'home grown' players like other small market teams that have won championships or at least got somewhat close (OKC, Memphis). It's a long shot, sure, but that's the reality of being a small market team.

If we trade one of them, we still have two home-grown stars.

What's better, two stars and depth or three stars and no depth? I'd lean towards the first.

How'd that work out for OKC?

It would have worked out great if they made the correct choice in keeping Harden over Ibaka

[Worm Guts]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Parker, although injured, solves the LaVine-Wiggins dilemma. (And I don't think a real resolution is moving one to bench...thread in itself).

Maker is better rim protector vs. anyone at 8-10 in draft.

After this trade, 8-10 can be BPA. If Dunn sent out in trade, probably a SG/PG type. If not, a SF who can play multiple positions.

So ask yourself, which core is better:
C: Towns
F: Dieng
F: 2017 1st/Wiggins
G: Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

OR

C: Towns/Dieng
F: Maker/Parker
F: Parker/2017 1st
G: LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

If the Wiggins/Lavine dilemma is that neither can play defense, then how does Parker help that? I'm also not going to trade Wiggins for a guy coming back from his 2nd ACL.
You have to figure this is pretty much tanking next year while Parker and Lavine get healthy.

[Raymond437]

Wiggins+2017 pick for George

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[GopherIt!]

may not need to make any big trades, to win this offseason. land Tatum in the draft and sign Gibson and Tucker & pups are looking very good. need tough glue vets, hopefully at least one of which is a Thibs guy.

RR/Tyus
Wiggs/Dunn/(Zach)
Tucker/Tatum
Gibson/Dieng
KAT/Dieng

[Sugarless]

Would love to land Tatum in the draft and sign Gibson and Tucker. We need tough vets, hopefully at least one of which is a Thibs guy.

RR/Tyus
Wiggs/Dunn/(Zach)
Tucker/Tatum
Gibson/Dieng
KAT/Dieng/Cole

I really like this depth chart.

Swap Gibson for Pat Pat, who's younger, not that overrated and brings some much needed 3-pt shooting, and we have a deal.

That would be an excellent summer for the Timberwolves.

[rugbyrugger23]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Parker, although injured, solves the LaVine-Wiggins dilemma. (And I don't think a real resolution is moving one to bench...thread in itself).

Maker is better rim protector vs. anyone at 8-10 in draft.

After this trade, 8-10 can be BPA. If Dunn sent out in trade, probably a SG/PG type. If not, a SF who can play multiple positions.

So ask yourself, which core is better:
C: Towns
F: Dieng
F: 2017 1st/Wiggins
G: Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

OR

C: Towns/Dieng
F: Maker/Parker
F: Parker/2017 1st
G: LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

If the Wiggins/Lavine dilemma is that neither can play defense, then how does Parker help that? I'm also not going to trade Wiggins for a guy coming back from his 2nd ACL.
You have to figure this is pretty much tanking next year while Parker and Lavine get healthy.

No the dilemma is both are SG's. As I think this thread has been subject to, I for one think 21/22yo's under Thibs will learn better defense. Add Maker, a much better rim protector (in theory) vs. Dieng, Towns, or anyone at 8-10 in draft, and team solves the dilemma of who plays SG while STILL keeping a big 3, not sacrificing scoring or a young core (like trading for a Butler or?).

[Worm Guts]

I would trade Wiggins for Parker + Maker. If they need more value add Dunn (and get their #19 in return).

Parker, although injured, solves the LaVine-Wiggins dilemma. (And I don't think a real resolution is moving one to bench...thread in itself).

Maker is better rim protector vs. anyone at 8-10 in draft.

After this trade, 8-10 can be BPA. If Dunn sent out in trade, probably a SG/PG type. If not, a SF who can play multiple positions.

So ask yourself, which core is better:
C: Towns
F: Dieng
F: 2017 1st/Wiggins
G: Wiggins/LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

OR

C: Towns/Dieng
F: Maker/Parker
F: Parker/2017 1st
G: LaVine/Dunn
G: Rubio/Jones/Dunn

If the Wiggins/Lavine dilemma is that neither can play defense, then how does Parker help that? I'm also not going to trade Wiggins for a guy coming back from his 2nd ACL.
You have to figure this is pretty much tanking next year while Parker and Lavine get healthy.

No the dilemma is both are SG's. As I think this thread has been subject to, I for one think 21/22yo's under Thibs will learn better defense. Add Maker, a much better rim protector (in theory) vs. Dieng, Towns, or anyone at 8-10 in draft, and team solves the dilemma of who plays SG while STILL keeping a big 3, not sacrificing scoring or a young core (like trading for a Butler or?).

I disagree that the dilemma is that they are both SG's. I don't think Wiggins can't play SF, but when he plays SG you get a lot of extra size without losing any athleticism. Because of that and that Lavine is coming off of ACL surgery, if I had to trade someone it would be Lavine.
Also, Parker's rehab time is supposed to be 12 months from what I've heard so he's not coming back until January, so that's a pretty big setback for next season.

[rugbyrugger23]

If the Wiggins/Lavine dilemma is that neither can play defense, then how does Parker help that? I'm also not going to trade Wiggins for a guy coming back from his 2nd ACL.
You have to figure this is pretty much tanking next year while Parker and Lavine get healthy.

No the dilemma is both are SG's. As I think this thread has been subject to, I for one think 21/22yo's under Thibs will learn better defense. Add Maker, a much better rim protector (in theory) vs. Dieng, Towns, or anyone at 8-10 in draft, and team solves the dilemma of who plays SG while STILL keeping a big 3, not sacrificing scoring or a young core (like trading for a Butler or?).

I disagree that the dilemma is that they are both SG's. I don't think Wiggins can't play SF, but when he plays SG you get a lot of extra size without losing any athleticism. Because of that and that Lavine is coming off of ACL surgery, if I had to trade someone it would be Lavine.
Also, Parker's rehab time is supposed to be 12 months from what I've heard so he's not coming back until January, so that's a pretty big setback for next season.

I wish Wiggins was ideal at SF. I wish he was the defensive stud he was pegged at being in college (coming into draft). Imagine more of a Kawhi vs. a Rudy Gay next to LaVine on this roster.

I am in trade Wiggins camp (if one is to be moved). Briefly (thread in itself), Wiggins worth more open market value, loved before injury LaVine's upward development year-over-year, his shooting next to Rubio/Dunn, and other reasons.

As for 2018, in my scenario they still draft a SF (who can either play some SG or big enough to play some PF. Wolves would add a vet SF (defensive one) in free agency. Parker when ready can make his way back into the lineup.