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An old piece explaining why Brook is shooting tons of 3s. 

Post#1 » by Lorenzomax7 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:20 am

I just found this article by Henry Abbott from 2013 via google.

It explained why Brook's post-up plays have always been forced to end up as turnover, missed tough shot or broken play in the 2nd half by good defensive efforts from the opponents. Making 3s allows him to have a longer career in this league. And we might better keep him for the rest of his career if he keeps improving his consistency on launching those "crazy" shots. Really there are not many 7 footers who can do that.
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Lorenzomax7 wrote:I just found this article by Henry Abbott from 2013 via google.

It explained why Brook's post-up plays have always been forced to end up as turnover, missed tough shot or broken play in the 2nd half by good defensive efforts from the opponents. Making 3s allows him to have a longer career in this league. And we might better keep him for the rest of his career if he keeps improving his consistency on launching those "crazy" shots. Really there are not many 7 footers who can do that.


i dont think its much mystery. the last nets regime was anti-analytics with oldschool coaches like hollins and Carlisemo. Marks\Kenny are very much analytics driven, which is not only why we re 3rd in three point rate, but they had brook extending his range to three point land.

As far as post ups, brook was never a good post player. his strngths have been catch and shoot in the paint and baseline faceup and drive and finishing with contact. I dont think his offense will decide his fate... his defense will
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Post#3 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:07 pm

Brook has never been a problem on offense, its his damn cement feet on defense and his lack of rebounding.

brook shooting threes is a great thing imo, i actually prefer when he takes them over him backing people down.

Frankly though this year offensively, he's been excellent. 57%TS 35%3PT 20ppg. any other team, he'd be an all star.
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Post#4 » by Lorenzomax7 » Fri Mar 31, 2017 1:40 pm

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Lorenzomax7 wrote:I just found this article by Henry Abbott from 2013 via google.

It explained why Brook's post-up plays have always been forced to end up as turnover, missed tough shot or broken play in the 2nd half by good defensive efforts from the opponents. Making 3s allows him to have a longer career in this league. And we might better keep him for the rest of his career if he keeps improving his consistency on launching those "crazy" shots. Really there are not many 7 footers who can do that.


i dont think its much mystery. the last nets regime was anti-analytics with oldschool coaches like hollins and Carlisemo. Marks\Kenny are very much analytics driven, which is not only why we re 3rd in three point rate, but they had brook extending his range to three point land.

As far as post ups, brook was never a good post player. his strngths have been catch and shoot in the paint and baseline faceup and drive and finishing with contact. I dont think his offense will decide his fate... his defense will



I also found a hard time to believe one day he will be a decent defender against the PnRs. Lin is the kinds of guards who needs more helps from his fellow big. I think bringing in a player like Beverley could help a ton. Or we can simply search for new defensive wingers through the FA. I don't think Porter is the only answer. Covington will also be an option too. But, at the end of the day, I really wish Brook could improve on defending the picks.
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Re: An old piece explaining why Brook is shooting tons of 3s. 

Post#5 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:41 pm

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Lorenzomax7 wrote:I just found this article by Henry Abbott from 2013 via google.

It explained why Brook's post-up plays have always been forced to end up as turnover, missed tough shot or broken play in the 2nd half by good defensive efforts from the opponents. Making 3s allows him to have a longer career in this league. And we might better keep him for the rest of his career if he keeps improving his consistency on launching those "crazy" shots. Really there are not many 7 footers who can do that.


i dont think its much mystery. the last nets regime was anti-analytics with oldschool coaches like hollins and Carlisemo. Marks\Kenny are very much analytics driven, which is not only why we re 3rd in three point rate, but they had brook extending his range to three point land.

As far as post ups, brook was never a good post player. his strngths have been catch and shoot in the paint and baseline faceup and drive and finishing with contact. I dont think his offense will decide his fate... his defense will



I also found a hard time to believe one day he will be a decent defender against the PnRs. Lin is the kinds of guards who needs more helps from his fellow big. I think bringing in a player like Beverley could help a ton. Or we can simply search for new defensive wingers through the FA. I don't think Porter is the only answer. Covington will also be an option too. But, at the end of the day, I really wish Brook could improve on defending the picks.


What I want to see really is some data that compares lopez to other centers guarding the PnR, especially centers on teams that are currently winning. Is he just that bad, or are we making too much out of his poor D because we watch him so much?

Personally, I think he's just that bad. His feet do not move once the screener takes the guard of of the play.
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Post#6 » by kamaze » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:47 pm

i dont think its much mystery. the last nets regime was anti-analytics with oldschool coaches like hollins and Carlisemo. Marks\Kenny are very much analytics driven, which is not only why we re 3rd in three point rate, but they had brook extending his range to three point land.


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Post#7 » by kamaze » Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:56 pm

Brook's been here 7 years the coaching staff did a great job getting him to shoot from the arc to spread the floor. Who knew he could make over 100 3s in a season he made less than 10 in 6 years. He deserves to be praised for that.

I can't see him improving on defense like MDB says he's got cement feet.
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Post#8 » by jbeachboy » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:20 pm

id like brook to limit the amount of threes, i hate when he takes 5 or more.
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Post#9 » by Prokorov » Sat Apr 1, 2017 2:34 am

jbeachboy wrote:id like brook to limit the amount of threes, i hate when he takes 5 or more.


Why he is shooting a great percentage. 35%, fourth on the team. we want him taking lots of threes.
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Post#10 » by jbeachboy » Sat Apr 1, 2017 3:17 am

Prokorov wrote:
jbeachboy wrote:id like brook to limit the amount of threes, i hate when he takes 5 or more.


Why he is shooting a great percentage. 35%, fourth on the team. we want him taking lots of threes.



ok well i just wish we would try to score easy baskets, i dont like relying on 3 point as much as we do. perhaps other players can limit their 3pt attempts.
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Post#11 » by Prokorov » Sat Apr 1, 2017 3:40 am

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jbeachboy wrote:id like brook to limit the amount of threes, i hate when he takes 5 or more.


Why he is shooting a great percentage. 35%, fourth on the team. we want him taking lots of threes.



ok well i just wish we would try to score easy baskets, i dont like relying on 3 point as much as we do. perhaps other players can limit their 3pt attempts.


we dont have good offensive players... we wont get easy baskets
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Post#12 » by jbeachboy » Sun Apr 2, 2017 12:28 am

you dont like lopez posting up anymore?
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Post#13 » by Rainyy » Sun Apr 2, 2017 4:08 am

It's all about balance with the three-point shot.

Fine with Lopez taking some threes, but I don't want that to come at the cost of losing shot volume. In other words, I don't like when he used primarily as a floor-spacer.

Fortunately, for the most part this has not happened and Lopez has improved his usage rate. Moving him out towards the perimeter gets around the issue of having incompetent point guards (for most of the season) and not running much PnR - it makes passing to him easier.

Still, I think Lopez should be taking shots inside off the dribble, cuts, or out of the PnR. He is a very versatile scorer and that should be exploited.
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Re: An old piece explaining why Brook is shooting tons of 3s. 

Post#14 » by Prokorov » Sun Apr 2, 2017 4:25 am

jbeachboy wrote:you dont like lopez posting up anymore?


no... its the weakest part of his game offensively.

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