Jimmy Butler

[Michael Lucky]

I didn't see it yesterday and I'm still worried...

Does that count?

I saw it earlier today and I'm worried too.. I thought we ridded of her brother who almost gave up the farm for Cousins. Please don't overpay for him.

From reports it sounded like she would have traded both Ingram and Russell and that Mitch and Jim were in part fired because they didn't consult and pull the trigger. Not surprising they got removed right after the trade happen. Kind of scary thinking about it.

[chefy]

russell or jc is gonna get traded for sure if we get a lottery pick.

[TylersLakers]

These trade proposals for Butler won't even be discussed unless it includes one of the following: Top 3 pick, Russell or Ingram.

Trade Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and the Houston pick for Butler.

PG: Lonzo Ball/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyler Ennis
SG: D'Angelo Russell/ Nick Young/
SF: Jimmy Butler/ Andre Iguoudala/ David Nwaba/
PF: Larry Nance Jr/ Luol Deng/
C: Ivica Zubac/ Timofey Mozgov/ Tarik Black/

Give Livingston a 2 year deal worth 5M a season. Iguoudala a 1 year, 15M dollar deal.

That's a team that can make a run and set things up nicely for 2018, when we'll have max cap space + extra to obtain other free agents.

[Princeinrevolt]

These trade proposals for Butler won't even be discussed unless it includes one of the following: Top 3 pick, Russell or Ingram.

Trade Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and the Houston pick for Butler.

PG: Lonzo Ball/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyler Ennis
SG: D'Angelo Russell/ Nick Young/
SF: Jimmy Butler/ Andre Iguoudala/ David Nwaba/
PF: Larry Nance Jr/ Luol Deng/
C: Ivica Zubac/ Timofey Mozgov/ Tarik Black/

Give Livingston a 2 year deal worth 5M a season. Iguoudala a 1 year, 15M dollar deal.

That's a team that can make a run and set things up nicely for 2018, when we'll have max cap space + extra to obtain other free agents.

That's way too much for Butler. And are you saying you would rather have Lonzo Ball than Brandon Ingram? Because you could have easily put the top three pick instead of Ingram in your hypothetical trade.

[TylersLakers]

These trade proposals for Butler won't even be discussed unless it includes one of the following: Top 3 pick, Russell or Ingram.

Trade Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and the Houston pick for Butler.

PG: Lonzo Ball/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyler Ennis
SG: D'Angelo Russell/ Nick Young/
SF: Jimmy Butler/ Andre Iguoudala/ David Nwaba/
PF: Larry Nance Jr/ Luol Deng/
C: Ivica Zubac/ Timofey Mozgov/ Tarik Black/

Give Livingston a 2 year deal worth 5M a season. Iguoudala a 1 year, 15M dollar deal.

That's a team that can make a run and set things up nicely for 2018, when we'll have max cap space + extra to obtain other free agents.

That's way too much for Butler. And are you saying you would rather have Lonzo Ball than Brandon Ingram? Because you could have easily put the top three pick instead of Ingram in your hypothetical trade.

Yeah, I'd rather have Ball than Ingram, because of the player we'd getting.

Is Ingram going to be as good as Butler? I don't think so. It's certainly possible, but if he ended up as good as Butler, we'd all be happy. When you add on the fact that Butler's contract is no where near a max in the years that we'll have cap space, it's an easy decision for me.

Hopefully we could get him without giving up Randle. However, if that's what had to be done, I'd do it.

The eventual hope is to attain George in 2018, so you have a line-up of Ball/Butler/George/Nance/Zubac with Russell off the bench playing 32+ minutes a game.

[AcecardZ]

Is it feesible to have Deng, Mozgov, George and Butler all under contract? That's a crap ton of $$$...

[larry14r]

These trade proposals for Butler won't even be discussed unless it includes one of the following: Top 3 pick, Russell or Ingram.

Trade Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and the Houston pick for Butler.

PG: Lonzo Ball/ Shaun Livingston/ Tyler Ennis
SG: D'Angelo Russell/ Nick Young/
SF: Jimmy Butler/ Andre Iguoudala/ David Nwaba/
PF: Larry Nance Jr/ Luol Deng/
C: Ivica Zubac/ Timofey Mozgov/ Tarik Black/

Give Livingston a 2 year deal worth 5M a season. Iguoudala a 1 year, 15M dollar deal.

That's a team that can make a run and set things up nicely for 2018, when we'll have max cap space + extra to obtain other free agents.

That's way too much for Butler. And are you saying you would rather have Lonzo Ball than Brandon Ingram? Because you could have easily put the top three pick instead of Ingram in your hypothetical trade.

Yeah, I'd rather have Ball than Ingram, because of the player we'd getting.

Is Ingram going to be as good as Butler? I don't think so. It's certainly possible, but if he ended up as good as Butler, we'd all be happy. When you add on the fact that Butler's contract is no where near a max in the years that we'll have cap space, it's an easy decision for me.

Hopefully we could get him without giving up Randle. However, if that's what had to be done, I'd do it.

The eventual hope is to attain George in 2018, so you have a line-up of Ball/Butler/George/Nance/Zubac with Russell off the bench playing 32+ minutes a game.

Bulls are going to ask for the pick before Ingram and you know this, and thanks to Jeanie's big mouth there goes our leverage.

[AcecardZ]

The Bulls can ask for whatever they want. We don't have to give it to them regardless of what Jeanie implied earlier.

[Dez]

The earliest he can become a FA is 2019, so it's a bit stupid of whoever that came from in that article to jump to a conclusion of "Butler is gone".

[LALifer49]

If things fell the right way I'd be open to trading for Butler. We land a top pick and can get Ball, and have as close to a guarantee as we can get that Pgeorge is coming as a fa in 2018 and I'm willing to do a deal based around Dlo as the primary trade piece for Butler.

Ride with Ball/Butler/Ingram/George and if he ends up good enough Zubac core? That is a great modern team with tons of switching capability, athleticism, defense, competitiveness, and I think Butler/George could be great for Ingram. Mainly the terror we'd be on defense is attractive. And im sure we'd be an attractive fa destination if we had any cap left (which would require us finding ways to rid ourselves of Deng/Mozgov contracts). And we're nicely set up at that point to compete now and in the future when Pgeorge and Butler are 30 Ball/Ingram/Zubac would be in their early primes. It's a bit of a pipe dream, but yeah I want that.

[larry14r]

If things fell the right way I'd be open to trading for Butler. We land a top pick and can get Ball, and have as close to a guarantee as we can get that Pgeorge is coming as a fa in 2018 and I'm willing to do a deal based around Dlo as the primary trade piece for Butler.

Ride with Ball/Butler/Ingram/George and if he ends up good enough Zubac core? That is a great modern team with tons of switching capability, athleticism, defense, competitiveness, and I think Butler/George could be great for Ingram. Mainly the terror we'd be on defense is attractive. And im sure we'd be an attractive fa destination if we had any cap left (which would require us finding ways to rid ourselves of Deng/Mozgov contracts). And we're nicely set up at that point to compete now and in the future when Pgeorge and Butler are 30 Ball/Ingram/Zubac would be in their early primes. It's a bit of a pipe dream, but yeah I want that.

Then who plays the 4 because George doesn't want to, and Ingram is too thin right now.

[LALifer49]

If things fell the right way I'd be open to trading for Butler. We land a top pick and can get Ball, and have as close to a guarantee as we can get that Pgeorge is coming as a fa in 2018 and I'm willing to do a deal based around Dlo as the primary trade piece for Butler.

Ride with Ball/Butler/Ingram/George and if he ends up good enough Zubac core? That is a great modern team with tons of switching capability, athleticism, defense, competitiveness, and I think Butler/George could be great for Ingram. Mainly the terror we'd be on defense is attractive. And im sure we'd be an attractive fa destination if we had any cap left (which would require us finding ways to rid ourselves of Deng/Mozgov contracts). And we're nicely set up at that point to compete now and in the future when Pgeorge and Butler are 30 Ball/Ingram/Zubac would be in their early primes. It's a bit of a pipe dream, but yeah I want that.

Then who plays the 4 because George doesn't want to, and Ingram is too thin right now.

Well that is true, this would rely on George playing the 4 until Ingram gained size, so george would have to be willing to play the 4, which to be fair he might be if it meant playing on a contender, when he was asked to play the 4 for the pacers it was after their best seasons were past.

[Pointgod]

Butler dropped 39,6 and 5 with a block and a steal on Sunday.

Paul George dueled with LeBron to the tune of 43, 9 and 9. Giving up a 2 or 3 pick when the possibility is getting both of these guys seems a little more palatable to me.

[dontforget]

Butler dropped 39,6 and 5 with a block and a steal on Sunday.

Paul George dueled with LeBron to the tune of 43, 9 and 9. Giving up a 2 or 3 pick when the possibility is getting both of these guys seems a little more palatable to me.

Ya, I was about to say, this board needs to take a look at what Butler's is doing recently. He has put the Bulls on his back to get them into the playoffs. You can scoff at that, but he put up superstar efforts recently against playoff level competition (Cavs, Bucks, Hawks, Wizards).

I'm not suggesting we trade a top 3 pick for him (if possible), but parting away from players like Russell and Randle etc etc. is not that ridiculous if you can get that type of production.