Zion Williamson

[ItsThatEasy]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

What does that even mean? Are you referring to his body composition? A lot of the top players stand out just from the the sheer size advantage over the competition let alone the skill/athleticism. I think as long as said player can carry their own weight well it doesn't matter if they are heavier than your stereotpyical basketball build but clearly this kid can. His size hasn't deterred his athleticism at all. Maybe you're getting flashbacks of Anthony bennett?

Yes, his body composition.

Anthony Bennett
Schea Cotton
Marcus Fizer
Etc.

You can't point to one prospect that size that young that has actually panned out.

[The-Power]

But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

Who are those players you use as evidence? Care to name some?

edit: as you just posted three names, which one of them actually had an athletic ability even close to Zion?

[ItsThatEasy]

But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

Who are those players you use as evidence? Care to name some?

edit: as you just posted three names, which one of them actually had an athletic ability even close to Zion?

You can add Stanley Johnson to that list if you'd like.

Miles Bridges carries that same frame, obviously he's never played an NBA game so I can't comment on him yet.

[ItsThatEasy]

Looks like Barkley was similiarly sized in high school, so there's proof somebody has done it.

In general kids with that type of bulk in high school just don't pan out.

[Duke4life831]

I just cant think of someone as bulky as him that are as explosive as he is. So I think he can definitely be an exception to the rule. My big question mark for him is what position is he going to play.

[DrCoach]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

Like Marc Gasol and Karl Antony Towns?

[ItsThatEasy]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

Like Marc Gasol and Karl Antony Towns?

Maybe I'm not being clear here, I'm specifically talking about guys between the 6'4 - 6'8 range with that frame.

7'0 footers carrying bulk is much different.

If he reaches 6'9 or above my concerns will be null and void.

[sunless01]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

agreed, first thing that stood out to me, needs to get in better shape

[DrCoach]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

Like Marc Gasol and Karl Antony Towns?

Maybe I'm not being clear here, I'm specifically talking about guys between the 6'4 - 6'8 range with that frame.

7'0 footers carrying bulk is much different.

If he reaches 6'9 or above my concerns will be null and void.

You are NOT being clear, you referenced Shaq and then you say only 6'4-6'8 guys

[Roy The Natural]

Like Marc Gasol and Karl Antony Towns?

Maybe I'm not being clear here, I'm specifically talking about guys between the 6'4 - 6'8 range with that frame.

7'0 footers carrying bulk is much different.

If he reaches 6'9 or above my concerns will be null and void.

You are NOT being clear, you referenced Shaq and then you say only 6'4-6'8 guys

It will keep changing, and being refined until there's no arguments. No sense in even trying.

[ItsThatEasy]

Like Marc Gasol and Karl Antony Towns?

Maybe I'm not being clear here, I'm specifically talking about guys between the 6'4 - 6'8 range with that frame.

7'0 footers carrying bulk is much different.

If he reaches 6'9 or above my concerns will be null and void.

You are NOT being clear, you referenced Shaq and then you say only 6'4-6'8 guys

And I just cleared it up, so why are you crying?

[DrCoach]

Maybe I'm not being clear here, I'm specifically talking about guys between the 6'4 - 6'8 range with that frame.

7'0 footers carrying bulk is much different.

If he reaches 6'9 or above my concerns will be null and void.

You are NOT being clear, you referenced Shaq and then you say only 6'4-6'8 guys

And I just cleared it up, so why are you crying?

Pointing out the deficiencies in your argument, isn't crying, it's called reading comprehension.

[jonjames]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

What does that even mean? Are you referring to his body composition? A lot of the top players stand out just from the the sheer size advantage over the competition let alone the skill/athleticism. I think as long as said player can carry their own weight well it doesn't matter if they are heavier than your stereotpyical basketball build but clearly this kid can. His size hasn't deterred his athleticism at all. Maybe you're getting flashbacks of Anthony bennett?

Yes, his body composition.

Anthony Bennett
Schea Cotton
Marcus Fizer
Etc.

You can't point to one prospect that size that young that has actually panned out.

The only one that comes to mind that seriously panned out was sir Charles. I can see where your argument is coming from but Zion is cut from a similar mold in that they are such unique bodies/athletic talent. Zion reminds me of cross between Charles Barkley and Dominique wilkins.

Anthony bennett was a good prospect out of hs big frame explosive athlete for his size except mentally so weak..lacked confidence in himself to ever truly succeed.
Schea Cotton was highschool phenom in his time undersized sg but powerful and uber athletic kinda of like Harold minor..he was wronged by ncaa who knows how he could turned out.
Marcus Fizer was overrated as hs prospect he had muscular frame and wasn't anything special of an athlete from what I Remember.

[Roy The Natural]

You are NOT being clear, you referenced Shaq and then you say only 6'4-6'8 guys

And I just cleared it up, so why are you crying?

Pointing out the deficiencies in your argument, isn't crying, it's called reading comprehension.

Like I said, not really worth arguing. Their are a MYRIAD of basketball players who have come out of high school or college with Zion's body type or similar bulky builds, if you keep making qualifiers, eventually you'll weed out everyone.

Just off the top of my head
Blake Griffin
Charles Barkley
Larry Johnson
Jabari Parker (thinner, but not skinny and in shape)
Jae Crowder
Kevin Love
Andre Drummond
Deron Williams
Kyle Lowry
Draymond Green
Oscar Robertson
Elvin Hayes
Caron Butler
David West
Zach Randolph
Elton Brand


James Worthy

I could go on with guys who have similar body types but it doesn't really matter, because it's completely arbitrary and stupid to suggest that his body type is going to hold him back. He could definitely stand to lose a few pounds, but the poster disproved his own point anyways with Barkley. If we're talking about lately, Draymond Green comes to mind, except a way more athletic Draymond Green, and a hopefully much smarter, and better Lance Stephenson.

There's been a ton of players with varying body types.

What does that even mean? Are you referring to his body composition? A lot of the top players stand out just from the the sheer size advantage over the competition let alone the skill/athleticism. I think as long as said player can carry their own weight well it doesn't matter if they are heavier than your stereotpyical basketball build but clearly this kid can. His size hasn't deterred his athleticism at all. Maybe you're getting flashbacks of Anthony bennett?

Yes, his body composition.

Anthony Bennett
Schea Cotton
Marcus Fizer
Etc.

You can't point to one prospect that size that young that has actually panned out.

The only one that comes to mind that seriously panned out was sir Charles. I can see where your argument is coming from but Zion is cut from a similar mold in that they are such unique bodies/athletic talent. Zion reminds me of cross between Charles Barkley and Dominique wilkins.

Anthony bennett was a good prospect out of hs big frame explosive athlete for his size except mentally so weak..lacked confidence in himself to ever truly succeed.
Schea Cotton was highschool phenom in his time undersized sg but powerful and uber athletic kinda of like Harold minor..he was wronged by ncaa who knows how he could turned out.
Marcus Fizer was overrated as hs prospect he had muscular frame and wasn't anything special of an athlete from what I Remember.

I'd say Oscar Robertson panned out pretty well.

Draymond Green's been doing okay for himself as well.

If Lance Stevenson was smarter, he'd be a really solid NBA player.

I liked Larry Johnson when he was healthy.

Caron Butler was a good player.

[twosevenstreet]

For those who havent seen him, this is what he did Tuesday night. The dude is just a human highlight reel, the explosion and speed for a guy his size is crazy.

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The best comp I can think of is Charles Barkley.

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[Nazrmohamed]

Guys with that size in high school rarely end up being good pro's.

You can point to every physical specimen the NBA has seen and notice how slim they were in high school, from Shaq to LeBron. These guys are usually trim and ripped with broad shoulders that show they'll be able to carry their eventual NBA mass.

I'd love to see what Barkley looked like in high school now that I'm thinking about it. But I just can't get too excited about a kid that big already no matter his athleticism, history just shows it doesn't end well.

What does that even mean? Are you referring to his body composition? A lot of the top players stand out just from the the sheer size advantage over the competition let alone the skill/athleticism. I think as long as said player can carry their own weight well it doesn't matter if they are heavier than your stereotpyical basketball build but clearly this kid can. His size hasn't deterred his athleticism at all. Maybe you're getting flashbacks of Anthony bennett?

Yes, his body composition.

Anthony Bennett
Schea Cotton
Marcus Fizer
Etc.

You can't point to one prospect that size that young that has actually panned out.

I agree. At this level he's a man amongst boys. I think there are plenty guys at the college level who could do the same let alone nba but just don't cuz it looks tasteless. Ive seen no video of actual skills with this kid except dunk contest attempts against what looks like kids too scared to get embarrassed in front of dad in the stands. I don't know what his lateral quickness is or shooting ability. Just insane dunks.

Now keep in mind though while that size hasn't always translated, it wouldn't be the first time I seem a chubby player slim down. Big baby and even Kevin Love slimmed down, Haslem did also. But will he is the question. Seems to busy showing off

[jonjames]

The kid has very good handles for his size..which makes his Randle comparison null and void. Randle only had handles good enough to go coast to coast. Zion can do that easily plus create his own shot off the bounce or attack gaps in the half court. Zion isn't some fat kid..he's big bone kid with wide hips and big glutes giving the illusion of being overweight.

[SlowPaced]

Let's not forget how Seventh Woods was going to change the world.

Think Seventh injured his knee which caused him to fall off badly.

[jonjames]

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zion williamson doing zion williamson things. peep the move at 4:00 he can handle and move like a guard

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