2016-17 MVP Discussion Thread Pt 2

RightToCensor · Post #1881 » by **RightToCensor** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 5:08 am

I don't know how to differentiate between more talented and better. To me, it's the same thing. Now if you mean Curry is more important to his team because of depth issues or that he's the focal point of the offense then that could be an opinion that I would partly understand.

It's true that Golden State would struggle without Curry because you're replacing him with a player that's not on the same level as Iguodala (who is a playoff level starter), but Golden State's offense is so freeflowing that their top scorer can change game by game, so they don't have to depend on Curry to carry them. When Curry is the focal point and he's on a roll, then he shows why he's one of the best players in the world.

Patches Perry · Post #1882 » by **Patches Perry** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 12:26 pm

Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

asero · Post #1883 » by **asero** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:35 pm

Simple reason that his team has the best record and is on 11 game winning streak without KD.
Afterall, he should be the MVP this year but obviously he would not win it.

But at best, he should be placed higher than LBJ. The difference in wins is glaring

dautjazz · Post #1884 » by **dautjazz** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:45 pm

Perhaps, regardless, it's between Harden, Westbrook, and Leonard, so who's 4th at this point, does it really matter? Who was 4th last year? Nobody cares, they just remember that Curry won, maybe you remember the runner up, but beyond that, meh.

Impuniti · Post #1885 » by **Impuniti** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:47 pm

Doesn't matter dude. All that matters is who wins it, and it's neither Steph nor LeBron.

Post #1886 » by **infinite11285** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:51 pm

Who cares? Neither have a shot to win the MVP.

michaelm · Post #1887 » by **michaelm** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:53 pm

dautjazz wrote:Perhaps, regardless, it's between Harden, Westbrook, and Leonard, so who's 4th at this point, does it really matter? Who was 4th last year? Nobody cares, they just remember that Curry won, maybe you remember the runner up, but beyond that, meh.

I doubt Steph or LeBron care even apart from anyone else, and doubt either would care about winning the thing again, let alone who between the two of them should be the higher ranked runner-up.

Post #1888 » by **Doctor MJ** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:56 pm

Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

Realistically after the loss in the finals with Curry disappointing I don't think Curry wins the MVP this year with Westbrook and Harden having the years they do.

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Screwston · Post #1889 » by **Screwston** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:57 pm

Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Closer to wb, harden n kawhi than he is to kd n bron

bmurph128 · Post #1890 » by **bmurph128** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:57 pm

Both are more valuable than Harden.

And I wouldn't be too upset with Steph over LeBron - however:

Games played:

Thompson - 74
Curry - 75
Green - 73
Iguodala - 73
KD - 59

LeBron - 70
Kyrie - 68
Love - 55
Thompson - 76
JR - 35

LeBron's were all for rest obviously, but Kyrie missed some games due to injury; obviously Love and JR as well. KD obviously has the injury, but the other 4 key cogs? Damn that's impressive.

Injuries are apart of the game and that's fine - but missing parts of your starting lineup for half the year would be difficult for any team.

Patches Perry · Post #1891 » by **Patches Perry** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 1:59 pm

Screwston wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Did someone say Curry was better than LeBron?

NBAFan93 · Post #1892 » by **NBAFan93** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:00 pm

He's been playing like an MVP since Durant went out, but he had a sharp decline over his previous MVP seasons until then. Just not enough longevity this season. I don't think he'll be in the running for MVP as long as KD is there.

Screwston · Post #1893 » by **Screwston** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:00 pm

Patches Perry wrote:
Screwston wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Did someone say Curry was better than LeBron?

Last year, it was a common thing to hear.

Patches Perry · Post #1894 » by **Patches Perry** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:03 pm

Screwston wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:
Screwston wrote:
And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Did someone say Curry was better than LeBron?

Last year, it was a common thing to hear.

Sure, but not really relevant in the context of my comment.

Ballerhogger · Post #1895 » by **Ballerhogger** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:04 pm

Too late for that.

The_Hater · Post #1896 » by **The_Hater** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:07 pm

Does anyone remember who finished 3rd, 4th, 5th or 6th in the MVP vote in any previous seasons? I didn't think so.

Impuniti · Post #1897 » by **Impuniti** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:08 pm

Screwston wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Closer to wb, harden n kawhi than he is to kd n bron

Curry already owned KD in reg season and ps and has far better team impact that KD will ever have in the previous two years before this one.

Post #1898 » by **ken6199** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:11 pm

Moving this to the MVP discussion thread.

Screwston · Post #1899 » by **Screwston** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:14 pm

Impuniti wrote:
Screwston wrote:
Patches Perry wrote:Curry would be winning his 3rd MVP in a row if the Warriors hadn't signed KD. And would still be winning 65+ games.

And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Closer to wb, harden n kawhi than he is to kd n bron

Curry already owned KD in reg season and ps and has far better team impact that KD will ever have in the previous two years before this one.

When? This year kd was top 3 in the mvp race n its his first year with gsw lol...

U mean far better team than kd ever had before this one?

Impuniti · Post #1900 » by **Impuniti** » Mon Apr 3, 2017 2:20 pm

Screwston wrote:
Impuniti wrote:
Screwston wrote:
And? When Kd won the mvp, was he better than LeBron? Hell no.

Just bc someone has a better season doesn't mean they're a better player. Curry fans should know, they made that mistake last year.

Curry was n is where he belongs 3-5

Closer to wb, harden n kawhi than he is to kd n bron

Curry already owned KD in reg season and ps and has far better team impact that KD will ever have in the previous two years before this one.

When? This year kd was top 3 in the mvp race n its his first year with gsw lol... Even lebron didn't do that when he went to miami, respected dwayne little bit ...

U mean far better team than kd ever had before this one?

Last year he owned him and WB. We saw in PS the OKC team was an elite team when they beat the Spurs. The reason the Warrior team last year was elite was because of the guy running the show. I don't even know how anyone can even debate it last year. Led to historic rs, beat OKC every game in rs and then beat them in ps. I don't want to hear any excuses.

Are you Durant's cousin by any chance? I can't deal with this level of stanning.

Who will win MVP?