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OrlandoDream wrote:Looks like Lakers are finishing 3rd best odds. Unfortunately for them, they now have a higher chance to falling to the 4th or 5th pick. Luke did everything possible,e to lose this game and reserves still won it. These kind of blatant tanking actions really gives the NBA a bad look. They need to do something about this.
NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
Deadcellz wrote:NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
The most logical way of doing it, its mad no one in the media suggests this simplistic method. Instead. They choose to conjur up methods like the draft wheel, ffs
cedric76 wrote:It s simple top 7 teams of each conference qualify for play off
Bottom 8 enter brackets to win the final play off place (1 game série style)
Then 14 non playoff teams get same lottery odds 7.14% to get order of draft position 1 to 6
So the worst team in nba will pick 7th unless they get lucky during the lottery
The 2nd worst team will pick 8th unless they get lucky during the lottery and so on....
Simple
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Mauro Pedrosa wrote:shadrock wrote:That was the most blatant on court tank attempt by the lakers ive ever seen. Sad day for the league. They should be fined.
They shut down Ingram at halftime and didn't play Randle in the 4th. Absolute BS and still won ahahahah
If they lose their picks I will be so **** happy
axl_c_cool wrote:cedric76 wrote:It s simple top 7 teams of each conference qualify for play off
Bottom 8 enter brackets to win the final play off place (1 game série style)
Then 14 non playoff teams get same lottery odds 7.14% to get order of draft position 1 to 6
So the worst team in nba will pick 7th unless they get lucky during the lottery
The 2nd worst team will pick 8th unless they get lucky during the lottery and so on....
Simple
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I actually like that Cedric, doesn't reward tanking but if you're bad you still get a decent look but not worth losing for. The draft lottery has to change though
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NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
Post#1631 » by Xatticus » Today 9:17 am
Or they could just revert to the system as it was before Orlando won the lottery for the second time. Fourteen of 105 balls would be the most a team could earn, which is only a 13.3% chance of winning. The system is still weighted, but the incentive to tank is significantly reduced. The downside to bottoming out would outweigh the benefit of slightly increased odds of landing a top pick.
They could also extend the number of picks included in the lottery. Supposing that number was increased to five, being the worst team in the league would guarantee a team to pick no lower than sixth instead of fourth.
I can appreciate a system that attempts to distribute talent to teams in need, since we know that all franchises aren't created equally. Some franchises just have inherent advantages over others. I can't defend a system that provides an incentive such that numerous teams are doing everything reasonable not to compete in late season games. I don't think it needs a complete overhaul. It just needs to shift the formula to a point where losing isn't the best path towards competitiveness.
crazytown wrote:I love Pop. Tanked the game to hopefully screw the Lakers in the lottery
OrlandoDream wrote:crazytown wrote:I love Pop. Tanked the game to hopefully screw the Lakers in the lottery
Lakers did everything possible to lose;
1). Once up by 20, they took out Ingram and put in Artest
2). Held Ingram out the 2nd half
3). Held out Dlo for the game
4). They didn't play Randle or Clarkson at all in the 4th
The entire league witnessed this. It's an embarrassment. Thing that pro tank management doesn't get is that players dgaf about your lottery pick. Ennis and some of these other "scrubs" Luke put out to lose on purpose are playing for the bball career's. They don't care about your tank. Lakers losing their pick would be the ultimate karma and message to these pro tankers
NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
MAGICian619 wrote:NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
I like this a lot. Then just keep the 2nd round based on order of standings. No one is tanking to improve their 2nd round pick. One thing I would add to it though is draw for all 14 draft spots, not just top 3. That further decreases the incentive to tank. That would eliminate the "well the worst we can draft is 4th." Each team that misses the playoffs has an equal chance to be anywhere 1-14.
IllMagic04 wrote:MAGICian619 wrote:NEM wrote:The 14 teams that miss the playoffs should all get equal odds. Teams can't win the lottery in back to back years, no exceptions. So let's say we were to win it this year and miss the playoffs next year, when they draw, if we win the lottery, they just re-draw.
That's the only way to completely eliminate tanking.
No GM/owner will want their team to purposely lose to have a 7.14% chance at winning the lottery.
I like this a lot. Then just keep the 2nd round based on order of standings. No one is tanking to improve their 2nd round pick. One thing I would add to it though is draw for all 14 draft spots, not just top 3. That further decreases the incentive to tank. That would eliminate the "well the worst we can draft is 4th." Each team that misses the playoffs has an equal chance to be anywhere 1-14.
Then you'd have border line playoff teams looking to miss the playoffs. Would you rather get crushed in the first round or have high odds to win the number one pick? As far as not letting a team win back to back years, I think that's unfair. All drafts aren't equal. Imagine if that was in place in 2013 and we won the lottery. We draft Oladipo but have no shot at Wiggens. Is that fair? Obviously not. Plus teams would still tank for a chance for a top pick even if it's not number 1.
The system is fine the way it is. I don't mind messing with the odds a little bit or even having a lottery for the top 5 instead of the top 3. But the basic principles of the lottery need to stay in place as is.