2016-17 Rookie Watch thread

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Who will make the All Rookie 1st Team?

Brogdon
100
19%
Brown
25
5%
Chriss
43
8%
Embiid
94
18%
Ferrell
5
1%
WILLY Hernangomez
36
7%
Hield
64
12%
Ingram
14
3%
Murray
39
7%
Saric
106
20%
 
Total votes: 526

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1341 » by Alonzo_Morning » Mon Apr 3, 2017 10:52 pm

76ers wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:Here's Luwawu doing Luwawu things, cutting hard to the hoop, hitting 3s, and wiggling his way to lay-ups. Been taking more shots the last couple games and is averaging an efficient 21ppg (though he's still very rookie and only playing big minutes cuz late season).


Loved the pick then, still love the pick now!


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Embiid

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1342 » by magnumt » Mon Apr 3, 2017 11:11 pm



He's verging like 7 & 7 so far with multiple near double doubles.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1343 » by karkinos » Tue Apr 4, 2017 12:52 pm

Damkac wrote:Ulis should work on his 3pt shot and add muscles to be better finisher in the paint. Right now almost all his points come from mid range shots and it's not too effective scoring.

ulis is not a pg scorer like wall, IT, or lillard
he is more like cp3 or even a conley just dropping dimes and facilitating. guys like cp3 and conley can score if needed, but it is not their best asset as an individual player.
his biggest asset is his bball iq and facilitating ball movement
he has a history of hitting big shots and is the perfect PG to play alongside level 1a/1b superstars
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1344 » by Sixersftw » Tue Apr 4, 2017 1:09 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Fultz/Fox
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Saric
Simmons
Embiid

:o


Covington would start w/ Saric off the bench torching 2nd units.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1345 » by Dan Z » Wed Apr 5, 2017 4:34 am

How has Georgios Papagiannis looked? Right now he has 13 points (60% shooting), 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

I know many people thought he was drafted too high.
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Post#1346 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 5, 2017 6:49 am

Dan Z wrote:How has Georgios Papagiannis looked? Right now he has 13 points (60% shooting), 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

I know many people thought he was drafted too high.


Sets good screens. Slow but decent mobility with his footwork. Developing a decent hook similar to what Koufos has. Can hit mid range shots.

Defensively he's a big body and he takes up a lot of space. So sometimes he can change shots or get in the way a bit, but a skilled big can go around him.

Not bad considering he's 19.

Should get a better tell about what he can do maybe by mid-season or so next year.

Don't be surprised if he looks a lot better then. Certainly has some tools to work with, but he's not there yet.

May be a good idea to keep him in the D league for awhile next season. He's one of those guys if you are patient may turn into something worthwhile.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1347 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Apr 5, 2017 6:59 am

blind prophet wrote:
Dan Z wrote:How has Georgios Papagiannis looked? Right now he has 13 points (60% shooting), 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

I know many people thought he was drafted too high.


Sets good screens. Slow but decent mobility with his footwork. Developing a decent hook similar to what Koufos has. Can hit mid range shots.

Defensively he's a big body and he takes up a lot of space. So sometimes he can change shots or get in the way a bit, but a skilled big can go around him.

Not bad considering he's 19.

Should get a better tell about what he can do maybe by mid-season or so next year.

Don't be surprised if he looks a lot better then. Certainly has some tools to work with, but he's not there yet.

May be a good idea to keep him in the D league for awhile next season. He's one of those guys if you are patient may turn into something worthwhile.


So basically, he's a younger Koufos with a better jumper
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1348 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 5, 2017 7:03 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
blind prophet wrote:
Dan Z wrote:How has Georgios Papagiannis looked? Right now he has 13 points (60% shooting), 5 rebounds, 1 block, 1 assist and 4 turnovers.

I know many people thought he was drafted too high.


Sets good screens. Slow but decent mobility with his footwork. Developing a decent hook similar to what Koufos has. Can hit mid range shots.

Defensively he's a big body and he takes up a lot of space. So sometimes he can change shots or get in the way a bit, but a skilled big can go around him.

Not bad considering he's 19.

Should get a better tell about what he can do maybe by mid-season or so next year.

Don't be surprised if he looks a lot better then. Certainly has some tools to work with, but he's not there yet.

May be a good idea to keep him in the D league for awhile next season. He's one of those guys if you are patient may turn into something worthwhile.


So basically, he's a younger Koufos with a better jumper


Not even close.

He's got a hell of a lot more potential than that.

He can finish above the rim much better for example because of his size, he can actually facilitate a bit with the ball too. Not that you want him to that often, but like with pick and rolls he could in theory be a much better player.

If his agility gets better he could be a solid team defender.

But like I said he's 19 and has a long ways to go.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1349 » by blind prophet » Wed Apr 5, 2017 7:11 am

You can see some of the finishing potential here, even in traffic to be able to throw it down.

Obviously not clean just yet.

Or the ability to score deeper than Kosta can while playing a two man game with the guards.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1350 » by ATTL » Wed Apr 5, 2017 10:47 pm

blind prophet wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:
blind prophet wrote:
Sets good screens. Slow but decent mobility with his footwork. Developing a decent hook similar to what Koufos has. Can hit mid range shots.

Defensively he's a big body and he takes up a lot of space. So sometimes he can change shots or get in the way a bit, but a skilled big can go around him.

Not bad considering he's 19.

Should get a better tell about what he can do maybe by mid-season or so next year.

Don't be surprised if he looks a lot better then. Certainly has some tools to work with, but he's not there yet.

May be a good idea to keep him in the D league for awhile next season. He's one of those guys if you are patient may turn into something worthwhile.


So basically, he's a younger Koufos with a better jumper


Not even close.

He's got a hell of a lot more potential than that.

He can finish above the rim much better for example because of his size, he can actually facilitate a bit with the ball too. Not that you want him to that often, but like with pick and rolls he could in theory be a much better player.

If his agility gets better he could be a solid team defender.

But like I said he's 19 and has a long ways to go.



Does he have a papa johns endorsement deal yet?
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1351 » by Westbreezy » Thu Apr 6, 2017 5:23 am

Ingram is gonna be so nice. I know most of you don't watch him but he looks like a completely different player over the last month and a half. Can't wait to see what he does with an offseason or two under his belt.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1354 » by 624 » Thu Apr 6, 2017 7:59 pm

LeVert had 7 assists in 19 minutes. Has such good vision/playmaking ability.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1355 » by fuzzy1 » Fri Apr 7, 2017 4:43 am

Taurean Prince been looking pretty good lately for the Hawks.
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2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1356 » by Paradise » Fri Apr 7, 2017 5:43 am



Most interesting thing about his career high in points is he held T. Ross to 5 points on 2-6 shooting and 1-5 on 3pters.

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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1357 » by DrWood » Fri Apr 7, 2017 8:49 pm

After being one of the hottest teams in the league for a few weeks, the Bucks are 1-3 in their last four with Brogdon out of the lineup, their only win being over a bad Detroit team.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1358 » by Sixerscan » Fri Apr 7, 2017 8:59 pm

DrWood wrote:After being one of the hottest teams in the league for a few weeks, the Bucks are 1-3 in their last four with Brogdon out of the lineup, their only win being over a bad Detroit team.

Hard to pick Brogdon for ROY given all the games he has missed. I prefer Dario Saric who plays in every game.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1359 » by DrWood » Fri Apr 7, 2017 9:07 pm

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DrWood wrote:After being one of the hottest teams in the league for a few weeks, the Bucks are 1-3 in their last four with Brogdon out of the lineup, their only win being over a bad Detroit team.

Hard to pick Brogdon for ROY given all the games he has missed. I prefer Dario Saric who plays in every game.

Brodgon has played in 73 games with 3 games to play. Unless you're just making a bad joke relative to Embiid, your beliefs seem to be based on the opposite of truth.
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Re: 2016-17 Rookie Watch thread 

Post#1360 » by Sixerscan » Fri Apr 7, 2017 9:16 pm

DrWood wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
DrWood wrote:After being one of the hottest teams in the league for a few weeks, the Bucks are 1-3 in their last four with Brogdon out of the lineup, their only win being over a bad Detroit team.

Hard to pick Brogdon for ROY given all the games he has missed. I prefer Dario Saric who plays in every game.

Brodgon has played in 73 games with 3 games to play. Unless you're just making a bad joke relative to Embiid, your beliefs seem to be based on the opposite of truth.

I'm just saying that we should consider all of the games Brogdon has missed due to injury and contrast it with the fact that Dario has been available every game. You can't help your team win in a suit.

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