2017 Draft Thread 2.0- Something to... Lmfao.. lol @

[puppa bear]

its funny how they have Dennis Smith Jr falling in the draft. He is absolutely the 2 or 3rd best player in this draft.

Wait, why is he dropping? He shouldn't be going any lower than 4th. Do the teams that are lined up after Fultz and Ball already have point guards?

The tourney gave more exposure to Fox, Monk and Tatum. It's more people forgetting about him because he hasn't played in the public we for a month or so.

[Bishop45]

I can't remember if this has been posted already, and am too lazy to search if it has:

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It was just the previous page Dom , Not in love with Harty. Semi and Anunoby still my top two with nobody that I hate as a prospect in the teens outside of Giles. Giles is Kamisky this year although I understand the potential

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[DayofMourning]

It was just the previous page Dom , Not in love with Harty. Semi and Anunoby still my top two with nobody that I hate as a prospect in the teens outside of Giles. Giles is Kamisky this year although I understand the potential

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Need to see more IH. He had a good stat line at the NHS. Stunk it up shooting free throws-guessing just an off night shooting because that's been a calling card of his.

I'd take Semi with another first or an early second, but would feel like a reach at 15 to me. I like him a lot though.

Anunoby doesn't do as much for me as he does for others. I can appreciate his talent, but I'm not sold.

Back to IH, I'm very ready to gamble on a prospect with his skill set, size, and athleticism. If he works out, man, he could be good.

[DayofMourning]

BTW, I do not see Hartenstein as a safe pick.

He's definitely a gamble, but one I'd happily make.

[Bishop45]

It was just the previous page Dom , Not in love with Harty. Semi and Anunoby still my top two with nobody that I hate as a prospect in the teens outside of Giles. Giles is Kamisky this year although I understand the potential

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Oops.

Need to see more IH. He had a good stat line at the NHS. Stunk it up shooting free throws-guessing just an off night shooting because that's been a calling card of his.

I'd take Semi with another first or an early second, but would feel like a reach at 15 to me. I like him a lot though.

Anunoby doesn't do as much for me as he does for others. I can appreciate his talent, but I'm not sold.

Back to IH, I'm very ready to gamble on a prospect with his skill set, size, and athleticism. If he works out, man, he could be good.

What's wrong with Semi at 15? He checks a lot of box's

I can understand not being in love with Anunoby, I'm not either. 7'6 wingspan tho, he's got potential to be another prototypical 4, small 5. I have a hard time saying no to that gamble. (While injury is still a definite concern)

Is it not having the age + potential package? I could understand that angle too. If guys like Patton, Leaf and IH reach even their offensive potential they could be great pick-ups. Semi seems like he just gets it already, like he understands what it means to be a pro

[DayofMourning]

What's wrong with Semi at 15? He checks a lot of box's

I can understand not being in love with Anunoby, I'm not either. 7'6 wingspan tho, he's got potential to be another prototypical 4, small 5. I have a hard time saying no to that gamble. (While injury is still a definite concern)

Is it not having the age + potential package? I could understand that angle too. If guys like Patton, Leaf and IH reach even their offensive potential they could be great pick-ups. Semi seems like he just gets it already, like he understands what it means to be a pro

I mentioned before that age doesn't matter to me if a guy can play. It sounds silly to talk about age being a factor with a guy when he's 22, or whatever he is. People have lost their minds on the age issue.

The reach I refer to is Heat centric. We have Winslow who looks an awful lot like a future Semi on the roster right now. There are also some SFs who could be obtained in FA. His position isn't a perfect fit for us due to those factors IMO, especially when their is a definitive need for a quality stretch forward on our roster, i.e., Hartenstein.

[DayofMourning]

Would take Lauri over IH in a minute though. Would love to have the 7th pick or so.

[Bishop45]

What's wrong with Semi at 15? He checks a lot of box's

I can understand not being in love with Anunoby, I'm not either. 7'6 wingspan tho, he's got potential to be another prototypical 4, small 5. I have a hard time saying no to that gamble. (While injury is still a definite concern)

Is it not having the age + potential package? I could understand that angle too. If guys like Patton, Leaf and IH reach even their offensive potential they could be great pick-ups. Semi seems like he just gets it already, like he understands what it means to be a pro

I mentioned before that age doesn't matter to me if a guy can play. It sounds silly to talk about age being a factor with a guy when he's 22, or whatever he is. People have lost their minds on the age issue.

The reach I refer to is Heat centric. We have Winslow who looks an awful lot like a future Semi on the roster right now. There are also some SFs who could be obtained in FA. His position isn't a perfect fit for us due to those factors IMO, especially when their is a definitive need for a quality stretch forward on our roster, i.e., Hartenstein.

I get that, I feel like both Semi and Winslow can play 2-4 and would be great to have together. I don't think their offensive games are all too similar either, Semi has the type of explosion I hope Winslow gets but there's some doubt. Not to mention he probably has some better shooting mechanics. I like em' both and feel like Semi's probably the BPA at 15

[DayofMourning]

Fultz says NY is the greatest place to play in the NBA.....typical rookie mistake :

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245564/Markelle-Fultz-It-Would-Be-Amazing-To-Play-For-Knicks

[Mos_Heat]

I would rather trade this pick with Sob and Eagle for a good veteran like Wilson Chandler

[radikalBaller]

A defensive lineup of:

Whiteside
JJ
Anunoby
Winslow
Dion/Jrich

Woul be scary, 2003 detroit pistons like scary. Spo would be the happiest coach on earth.

Anunoby could be special defensively, he is my pick.

Other picks I like are Bridges as a poor man Melo and Giles as a poor man Bosh.

I think we need a scorer from the wing position but Anunoby elite defensive potential is hard to pass...

[SlowPaced]

Think we might need to swing for the fences with our pick. This team needs to strike gold in this draft. We don't have a pick next year and our current lineup is going nowhere.

I'd take the risky upsides of Hartenstein, Anunoby or even Giles over a safe bet pick like Leaf or Rabb. Hell I'd probably even take a complete swing for the fences pick with Jonathan Jeanne over a safe pick.

[puppa bear]

Think we might need to swing for the fences with our pick. This team needs to strike gold in this draft. We don't have a pick next year and our current lineup is going nowhere.

I'd take the risky upsides of Hartenstein, Anunoby or even Giles over a safe bet pick like Leaf or Rabb. Hell I'd probably even take a complete swing for the fences pick with Jonathan Jeanne over a safe pick.

If we are smart with trading we may be able to take 2 swings for the fence: Portland may be looking to package a couple of their picks to move up, and one of their later picks (19/20, or 26 - most likely the latter, but it's worth pushing) might be the cost of moving up those few spaces. If we end up with 16th and 20th we can get one grab at one of IH/OG/Giles and another at a slightly lower pack that may just include Giles/Leaf/Rabb/Bam/Ike. There's two good chances at swinging for the fences, and if we get really lucky and end up with Anunoby & Giles we could end up with 2 of the steals of the draft, and lock in a great young core.

[SlowPaced]

Think we might need to swing for the fences with our pick. This team needs to strike gold in this draft. We don't have a pick next year and our current lineup is going nowhere.

I'd take the risky upsides of Hartenstein, Anunoby or even Giles over a safe bet pick like Leaf or Rabb. Hell I'd probably even take a complete swing for the fences pick with Jonathan Jeanne over a safe pick.

If we are smart with trading we may be able to take 2 swings for the fence: Portland may be looking to package a couple of their picks to move up, and one of their later picks (19/20, or 26 - most likely the latter, but it's worth pushing) might be the cost of moving up those few spaces. If we end up with 16th and 20th we can get one grab at one of IH/OG/Giles and another at a slightly lower pack that may just include Giles/Leaf/Rabb/Bam/Ike. There's two good chances at swinging for the fences, and if we get really lucky and end up with Anunoby & Giles we could end up with 2 of the steals of the draft, and lock in a great young core.

I've actually talked about this scenario on March 31.

I think we should trade down and acquire two picks instead of one, honestly.

I'm not too high on the players that are going to be at the range we're projected to pick at.

So I agree.

[KingDavid]

Fultz says NY is the greatest place to play in the NBA.....typical rookie mistake :

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/245564/Markelle-Fultz-It-Would-Be-Amazing-To-Play-For-Knicks

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Markelle Fultz: It Would Be Amazing To Play For Knicks
APR 9, 2017 8:08 PM


Markelle Fultz sat courtside for Sunday's game at Madison Square Garden between the New York Knicks and Toronto Raptors.

Fultz was asked if he feels he could thrive in New York.

"I think I could play in any system," he said. "I’m very versatile, so it was cool to see that. It’s a lot of openings and stuff like that, so that’s why I came to see that in person."

The Knicks are in a position to possibly win the lottery to select Fultz though the odds are long.

"It would be amazing. It’s close to home," says Fultz, who grew up in Washington, D.C. "My family can come out, and this is the greatest place to play, really, in New York -- big stadium, a lot of good fans."

Fultz also liked the possibility of playing with Kristaps Porzingis.

"He can shoot the 3 and get to the rim," said Fultz.

That's not the vibe I'm getting, Dom. I think this is his smart PR side talking. But a number one talent like that playing in NY? He'd make a ton of money, the Knicks would be exciting to watch again, which is great for the NBA and his skills would thrive in the triangle if they choose to stick with that. I'd also be conflicted, because I hate the Knicks but like Fultz. He'd say something similar about Boston or LA.

[RJM]

A defensive lineup of:

Whiteside
JJ
Anunoby
Winslow
Dion/Jrich

Woul be scary, 2003 detroit pistons like scary. Spo would be the happiest coach on earth.

Anunoby could be special defensively, he is my pick.

Other picks I like are Bridges as a poor man Melo and Giles as a poor man Bosh.

I think we need a scorer from the wing position but Anunoby elite defensive potential is hard to pass...

Good Lord, don't quit your day job. You don't waste a near-lottery pick on a player that missed most of the season due to knee surgery. Harry Giles is nothing like Chris Bosh. Miles Bridges is nothing like Carmelo Anthony.

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Realistically speaking, whether Chicago/Indiana loses or not, Miami's pick will be either 1-14 or 15. If it's 15, Justin Jackson, Terrance Ferguson, John Collins, Ivan Rabb, Isaiah Hartenstein, Grayson Allen, Jawun Evans, Caleb Swanigan, and even Bam Adebayo are all available at or around that pick. Miami wins if it makes the playoffs, and still (worst-case) wins if Indiana/Chicago win.

Potential first round acquisitions sorted according to position--

PG: Jawun Evans*
SG: Grayson Allen* - Terrance Ferguson* -
SF: Justin Jackson*
PF: Isaiah Hartenstein* - Ivan Rabb* - John Collins* - Caleb Swanigan* -
C: Bam Adebayo*

Right now, Justin Jackson, Isaiah Hartenstein, Ivan Rabb, and (go figure) Grayson Allen have my attention. They all potentially fill needed roles, minus the sort of injury issues you'd be crazy to waste a mid-round pick on.

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[DayofMourning]

That's not the vibe I'm getting, Dom. I think this is his smart PR side talking. But a number one talent like that playing in NY? He'd make a ton of money, the Knicks would be exciting to watch again, which is great for the NBA and his skills would thrive in the triangle if they choose to stick with that. I'd also be conflicted, because I hate the Knicks but like Fultz. He'd say something similar about Boston or LA.

I didn't read too far past the headline, KD. It grabbed my attention because NY is probably one of the worst basketball places to play in right now. Nobody should want to play in that drama filled grinder with one of the worst owners in the NBA. I get the PR take, but don't feel its necessary in Fultz's case.

[Bishop45]

I want 2 picks too and a trade back could pay off because a lot of similarly rated players are in the 15-25 range but I'm not sure I would want to give up a chance at the better prospects in that range. Especially not if it means Giles

Right now my top 2/3

1. Semi
2. Anunoby/ TJ Leaf

Leaf if Anunoby is unable to participate in Combine/pre-workout, although I find it hard not to want to gamble on a wing with Whiteside territory wingspan. Seriously, 7'6 tho

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[KingDavid]

That's not the vibe I'm getting, Dom. I think this is his smart PR side talking. But a number one talent like that playing in NY? He'd make a ton of money, the Knicks would be exciting to watch again, which is great for the NBA and his skills would thrive in the triangle if they choose to stick with that. I'd also be conflicted, because I hate the Knicks but like Fultz. He'd say something similar about Boston or LA.

I didn't read too far past the headline, KD. It grabbed my attention because NY is probably one of the worst basketball places to play in right now. Nobody should want to play in that drama filled grinder with one of the worst owners in the NBA. I get the PR take, but don't feel its necessary in Fultz's case.

If they win the lottery and draft Fultz, they can trim the fat and start over around kp and Fultz. It's really hard to mess that up.

[DayofMourning]

That's not the vibe I'm getting, Dom. I think this is his smart PR side talking. But a number one talent like that playing in NY? He'd make a ton of money, the Knicks would be exciting to watch again, which is great for the NBA and his skills would thrive in the triangle if they choose to stick with that. I'd also be conflicted, because I hate the Knicks but like Fultz. He'd say something similar about Boston or LA.

I didn't read too far past the headline, KD. It grabbed my attention because NY is probably one of the worst basketball places to play in right now. Nobody should want to play in that drama filled grinder with one of the worst owners in the NBA. I get the PR take, but don't feel its necessary in Fultz's case.

If they win the lottery and draft Fultz, they can trim the fat and start over around kp and Fultz. It's really hard to mess that up.

Still got Phil Jackson and Dolan. Match made in hell, KD. Been messing **** up for the past twenty years, no matter who's running the show.