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Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST

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Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST 

Post#41 » by A_dub06 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:57 am

coordinator0 wrote:I'm a big fan of Kentavious, but he's looked bad the last couple of months. It still makes sense to pay him and get rid of Jackson (and then hopefully Drummond) though. Teams have to pay some players and with the cap being so high there's a lot of money that needs to be thrown out just to get to the salary floor. That should be Caldwell-Pope and Harris for the Pistons, with Leuer probably being kept around too. Then fill in mid-smaller salary guys and prospects around them in an actual rebuild.

Kentavious getting back to form is still a tradeable asset even on a new contract too. Good two guards are valuable around the league especially defenders that can make threes.


If you are a lottery/tanking rebuilding team you don't sign an inconsistent shooting guard to a max contract on a 4-5 year deal. You sign him for less years to remain flexible but KCP won't do that so its all or nothing. I understand a tear down means we won't win many games (not that we did this seasons anyway) but keeping KCP could mean winning additional games also. If KCP wants the max or other teams are willing, let them pay him not us.

KCP on a max contract is not a tradable asset!


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Re: Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST 

Post#42 » by Macho » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:11 am

Boban's limitations are obvious but there is no reason why he can't play 14-20 minutes a night, dude is just deadly.
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Re: Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST 

Post#43 » by coordinator0 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:33 am

A_dub06 wrote:If you are a lottery/tanking rebuilding team you don't sign an inconsistent shooting guard to a max contract on a 4-5 year deal. You sign him for less years to remain flexible but KCP won't do that so its all or nothing. I understand a tear down means we won't win many games (not that we did this seasons anyway) but keeping KCP could mean winning additional games also. If KCP wants the max or other teams are willing, let them pay him not us.

KCP on a max contract is not a tradable asset!


He's not getting a max after the last two months. His agent might be holding out hope for one but I really doubt even Brooklyn and Philadelphia are desperate enough to throw one his way with Kentavious' level of play lately. For sure it will still be a large deal, that's just how the market is, but I'm not too worried about a max at this point.

And yes, Caldwell-Pope back to the form he was in before the last couple of months is a tradeable asset. It's a legitimate question whether or not he will get back there and if that's actually the player he is but at the same time it's not like he was the only one slumping during that time. You can say that about basically anybody associated with the Detroit Pistons. Except Harris, he's been really good all season.
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Re: Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST 

Post#44 » by DBC10 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:43 am

coordinator0 wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:If you are a lottery/tanking rebuilding team you don't sign an inconsistent shooting guard to a max contract on a 4-5 year deal. You sign him for less years to remain flexible but KCP won't do that so its all or nothing. I understand a tear down means we won't win many games (not that we did this seasons anyway) but keeping KCP could mean winning additional games also. If KCP wants the max or other teams are willing, let them pay him not us.

KCP on a max contract is not a tradable asset!


He's not getting a max after the last two months. His agent might be holding out hope for one but I really doubt even Brooklyn and Philadelphia are desperate enough to throw one his way with Kentavious' level of play lately. For sure it will still be a large deal, that's just how the market is, but I'm not too worried about a max at this point.

And yes, Caldwell-Pope back to the form he was in before the last couple of months is a tradeable asset. It's a legitimate question whether or not he will get back there and if that's actually the player he is but at the same time it's not like he was the only one slumping during that time. You can say that about basically anybody associated with the Detroit Pistons. Except Harris, he's been really good all season.


Yeah, at this point I would really love to keep Kentavious. I don't think we're going to get another guard that plays on both sides of the court for a while. He really needs to come with a discount though, and I don't think we'd be winning the war with Rich Paul since he held out basically all of summer to get Bledsoe and Tristan their deals. Bledsoe at least looks tradeable while TT isn't. So the track record on whether he's tradeable is a bit iffy which may hesitate me.

But I'd still lean on keeping him and shedding more of our deadweight in RJ and Dre. I'd argue they would be more deadweights than KCP ever will, considering KCP plays hard nearly 99% of the time. With RJ, you don't know if his knee will ever come up and or if he'll ever play team ball. With Dre...I don't think I need to say much really, he's just mentally not ready for the pros most of the time.
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Re: Game 80: Pistons (36-43) @ Grizzlies (43-37) - 6 PM EST 

Post#45 » by engelbert321 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:45 am

What a miserable season
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Post#46 » by Pharaoh » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:59 am

DBC10 wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
A_dub06 wrote:If you are a lottery/tanking rebuilding team you don't sign an inconsistent shooting guard to a max contract on a 4-5 year deal. You sign him for less years to remain flexible but KCP won't do that so its all or nothing. I understand a tear down means we won't win many games (not that we did this seasons anyway) but keeping KCP could mean winning additional games also. If KCP wants the max or other teams are willing, let them pay him not us.

KCP on a max contract is not a tradable asset!


He's not getting a max after the last two months. His agent might be holding out hope for one but I really doubt even Brooklyn and Philadelphia are desperate enough to throw one his way with Kentavious' level of play lately. For sure it will still be a large deal, that's just how the market is, but I'm not too worried about a max at this point.

And yes, Caldwell-Pope back to the form he was in before the last couple of months is a tradeable asset. It's a legitimate question whether or not he will get back there and if that's actually the player he is but at the same time it's not like he was the only one slumping during that time. You can say that about basically anybody associated with the Detroit Pistons. Except Harris, he's been really good all season.


Yeah, at this point I would really love to keep Kentavious. I don't think we're going to get another guard that plays on both sides of the court for a while. He really needs to come with a discount though, and I don't think we'd be winning the war with Rich Paul since he held out basically all of summer to get Bledsoe and Tristan their deals. Bledsoe at least looks tradeable while TT isn't. So the track record on whether he's tradeable is a bit iffy which may hesitate me.

But I'd still lean on keeping him and shedding more of our deadweight in RJ and Dre. I'd argue they would be more deadweights than KCP ever will, considering KCP plays hard nearly 99% of the time. With RJ, you don't know if his knee will ever come up and or if he'll ever play team ball. With Dre...I don't think I need to say much really, he's just mentally not ready for the pros most of the time.

Drummond for Thompson?

RJ to Cleveland for whatever?

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