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Re: RE: Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#61 » by catch20two » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:43 am

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What's your problem man?


False narratives. Dismissing Player A's results because Players B/C could be applied to every stat, true or not.



And, yet every stat I've posted is true. You guys take after Coach Cliff with your stubbornness. Either way, I'll just choose to ignore you from now on. I'm not going to argue with you, because that would make me just as bad as you.

I'm sure there are a few that think Lamb is a more capable shooter that has been dogged by Clifford for awhile. He's proven to me that he has a reliable shot and is able to create offense better than most. If he works on his passing, he could really do great things whether he's starting or on the bench.

Be careful. They're gonna stereotype you as a UConn fan or Lamb stan for stating facts. Fact is Lamb had a better season than Bellineli but played less minutes. Another fact is that Lamb had the best PER of all our wing players. Oh and one more fact that isn't alternative, Lamb was 2nd on the team in points produced per minute behind Kemba.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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Re: RE: Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#62 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:47 am

catch20two wrote:Be careful. They're gonna stereotype you as a UConn fan or Lamb stan for stating facts.


Ha - this isn't Lamb v anyone. Baseless assertions get a little old though.
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Re: RE: Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#63 » by catch20two » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:54 am

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catch20two wrote:Be careful. They're gonna stereotype you as a UConn fan or Lamb stan for stating facts.


Ha - this isn't Lamb v anyone. Baseless assertions get a little old though.

I'm just telling him to be careful and to slowly retreat from the topic before he get labeled something he may not be.

Btw Kemba and Lamb together produced the highest offensive rating of any 2 player lineup on the team that played at least 500 minutes together.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#64 » by yosemiteben » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:01 am

Catch, even you wouldn't pretend like Lamb is a solid C&S guy, right? I mean is that point really debatable? We have three seasons in a row where he's shot poorly. I hope he improves, but it's not like we're just stating our opinion without providing any evidence.

Anyone that regularly watches our team knows that Lamb had an aversion to shooting before putting the ball on the floor. Like this shouldn't be controversial.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#65 » by Braggins » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:33 am

I still don't understand how Lamb is so bad at shooting 3s. His shot looks beautiful and he showed promise as a shooter coming out of UConn, but he seems to get worse and worse from deep every season.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#66 » by yosemiteben » Mon Apr 10, 2017 3:45 am

I'm with you Braggins. It seems like a mental block to me, there's nothing mechanically wrong with his shot IMO. On the plus side, Kemba at age 24 shot 30.4% from three, then the next season that number shot up to 37%. If Lamb could have the same sort of leap in shooting from three, especially in C&S situations, I'd be totally down with him knocking MKG out of the starting lineup.

Kemba - Lamb - Batum - Frank - Cody

He just has to be able to keep the ball moving and hit shots without dominating the ball.
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Re: RE: Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#67 » by Mystical Apples » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:26 am

316Hornets wrote:I'll just choose to ignore you from now on. I'm not going to argue with you, because that would make me just as bad as you.

I'd take his C&S % with a grain of salt. He's on the floor with Brian Roberts and Kaminsky - not exactly known for their passing prowess.


This statement is way off. Every Hornet > 500 minutes has a higher TS% next to Kaminsky. Not sure how many NBA players this applies to but I doubt many. When I run full season playmaking efficiency metrics the reasons will become obvious. Or at least 1 of the reasons.


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A lot of times he's given the ball as sort of a last result heave as well.


No doubt Lamb takes late shots, though not outside the normal range for his usage + position + hold times.

That said, if someone has been disproportionately disadvantaged by shot clock grenades it's Kaminsky. A 2nd year perimeter 4/5 leading a group of veterans in frequency% is absolute Crazy Town, particularly given his ultra low dribble and hold times.

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Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#68 » by catch20two » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:43 am

yosemiteben wrote:Catch, even you wouldn't pretend like Lamb is a solid C&S guy, right? I mean is that point really debatable? We have three seasons in a row where he's shot poorly. I hope he improves, but it's not like we're just stating our opinion without providing any evidence.

Anyone that regularly watches our team knows that Lamb had an aversion to shooting before putting the ball on the floor. Like this shouldn't be controversial.

Lamb's catch and shoot percentages were almost identical to Batum's and overall better than The Great Kaminsky's.

I'm not saying that Lamb hasn't struggled with his shot, particularly 3s but let's not try to make him out to be some kinda outlier for poor performance on catch and shoot situations on the team.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)
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Re: GT: Hornets vs Celtics Sat Apr 8 6PM EST 

Post#69 » by catch20two » Mon Apr 10, 2017 4:47 am

Braggins wrote:I still don't understand how Lamb is so bad at shooting 3s. His shot looks beautiful and he showed promise as a shooter coming out of UConn, but he seems to get worse and worse from deep every season.

He just need a offseason where he solely focus on 3s the same way Kemba has focused on his shooting the past few years. I think Lamb tricks himself into believing that there's nothing wrong with his shot and he just need to focus on everything else but his shot that he sell himself short on the one area that'll make him a more dynamic and dangerous player on the floor, and that's 3pt shooting.
They will wage war against the Lamb but the Lamb will triumph them because he is Lord of lords and King of kings - and with him will be his called, chosen and faithful followers." Revelation 17:14 (NIV)

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