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Post#1701 » by Unbreakable99 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:49 pm

I wonder when we play the Celtics if they would put Bradley on Simmons because Bradley is tough to dribble against. He gets up into you and can strip you. Dribbling with him is a nightmare. I'd like to see if Simmons can bring the ball up on him.

I think the Bucks would put Giannis on Simmons. He would be another tough matchup.
The Cavs would put JR Smith on him and LeBron might switch onto him.
Golden St would put Klay or Draymond on Simmons
Washington would put Porter on Simmons

There are going to be some tough defenders Simmons will have to go up against.
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Post#1702 » by Kobblehead » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:01 pm

I think Simmons would abuse Bradley in every which way. Bradley gets dominated by SGs. No way he can guard a PF-sized ball handler, IMO. I think Jae Crowder is highly likely to get the assignment.

He's one of the rare perimeter defenders in the league with both the ability and bulk to defend Simmons.
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Post#1703 » by GabeCerebro » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:15 pm

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76ciology wrote:
Not high on him but I see two promising things:
- PG, wings and Biid should be a tough line-up to match where they can hurt any team trying to play big or small. Personally, I think it will be better than smallball.
- 1-3 PnR


How are you not high on him?...


He's not high on him because he can't shoot. He wanted Ingram initially. We shall see. He may be right. Time will tell. I however am very high on him and think he's one of the best prospects I have seen.


I agree.
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Post#1704 » by GabeCerebro » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:18 pm

thenbaman wrote:If he was going to get hurt in summer league he would get hurt the first game of the season,makes no sense.


I'm sure he'll play pre-season. You're overthinking it probably lol
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Post#1705 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 4:46 am

Simmons is a beast on defense.

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Post#1706 » by Simmons25 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:01 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:Simmons is a beast on defense.

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That kid just had his soul taken away. Right number... wrong singlet. Lesson learnt.
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Post#1707 » by Ericb5 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:02 pm

6 min periscope interview with Simmons with our local media and nobody asked him about his growth.

I hope they asked off camera. Jesus. Such dumb BS questions were asked like "what do you think about the city of Philadelphia?" "What did you learn from Embiid?"

Drives me absolutely nuts how the only people with access to ask the questions can't ask something so simple.

It is guaranteed national news for whoever gets the real information. What Simmons thinks about the city accomplishes nothing.

https://www.pscp.tv/w/a75_cTFlUkV4cVZkeldNUXd8MXJteFBub25Mb2RHTpkOQ5RqjQJ7iolHqMXNAVLZv-XXCgZGM70JLo1GpmTg

EDIT: I read from Tom Moore that someone did ask him off camera from the periscope about it, and he said that he hasn't been measured, but that he thinks he has grown.

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Post#1708 » by cksdayoff » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:38 pm

simmons is gonna beast the league next year.
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Post#1709 » by Simmons25 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:31 am

Kolkmania wrote:Evidence #3467289: Simmons is a natural righty.
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Evidence to beat all evidence below.

As a 3 to 4 year old his natural instinct is clear as day. He is clearly dribbling the ball with his left hand. He is a left hander.... so time to let the "He can't shoot because he is shooting with his wrong hand" narrative go.

You are confusing being ambidextrous with shooting with the wrong hand. His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them... so has never had to develop a consistent outside shot. It will come in time just like it did with Lebron.

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Post#1710 » by Simmons25 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:38 am

Ericb5 wrote:6 min periscope interview with Simmons with our local media and nobody asked him about his growth.


Probably not in that video but he was asked.

Even speculation over his height and whether he had grown to seven feet tall since the draft became a storyline this month. 
"I don't know [if I am seven feet], we should get a tape measure," he said jokingly. "I haven't been measured since though. I think I've grown."
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Post#1711 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:08 am

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Kolkmania wrote:Evidence #3467289: Simmons is a natural righty.
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Evidence to beat all evidence below.

As a 3 to 4 year old his natural instinct is clear as day. He is clearly dribbling the ball with his left hand. He is a left hander.... so time to let the "He can't shoot because he is shooting with his wrong hand" narrative go.

You are confusing being ambidextrous with shooting with the wrong hand. His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them... so has never had to develop a consistent outside shot. It will come in time just like it did with Lebron.

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He shooting hand is weird. Up close he shoots with his right. Jump shots he shoots left. Half court shots he shoots right. Just weird lol. His trick shots he shoots right. I remember during summer league he got fouled at half court and he shot the ball anyway but he shot it with his right hand. Who does that? :lol:
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Post#1712 » by Simmons25 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:54 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:He shooting hand is weird. Up close he shoots with his right. Jump shots he shoots left. Half court shots he shoots right. Just weird lol. His trick shots he shoots right. I remember during summer league he got fouled at half court and he shot the ball anyway but he shot it with his right hand. Who does that? :lol:


Yeah is a mixture... I think he is genuinely ampidextrious.

You can see in his college highlights... he shoots baby hook shots and layups with his right... generally blocks shots with his right hand.

Yet when he dribbles up the court he dribbles left handed and makes his passes with his left hand as the dominant passing hand. Also shoots left handed from distance which generally you pick up as a kid because your most dominant hand is your strongest.

If he was a predominant right hander... no way in hell would he be dribbling and passing left handed most of the time.

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Post#1713 » by Kolkmania » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:57 am

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Kolkmania wrote:Evidence #3467289: Simmons is a natural righty.
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Evidence to beat all evidence below.

As a 3 to 4 year old his natural instinct is clear as day. He is clearly dribbling the ball with his left hand. He is a left hander.... so time to let the "He can't shoot because he is shooting with his wrong hand" narrative go.

You are confusing being ambidextrous with shooting with the wrong hand. His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them... so has never had to develop a consistent outside shot. It will come in time just like it did with Lebron.

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I think you are the one that's a bit confused with the term ambidextrous. In this context it means that a player is capable of doing a skill equally good with both hands. Which is clearly not the case with Ben Simmons. He shot like 95 percent of his lay-ups and floaters with his right hand, also, when he attempts a circus shot he goes for his more familiar right hand.
If there's a term that's better fitting it's cross-dominance. Which means that a person favors different hands for different tasks.

Look, this is all based on assumptions. I'm not a specialist and I clearly don't know nor seen Ben Simmons enough in real life. However, plenty of clips indicate that he might have a better touch shooting the ball with his right hand.

I think this, " His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them." is just a clear sign of homerism. Improvement of shooting is not 100% based on repetition, some players are just better at it then others. How would you explain his meh free throw percentage, when he's been at the line for his entire high school/college career?
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Post#1714 » by Simmons25 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:39 am

Kolkmania wrote:I think this, " His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them." is just a clear sign of homerism. Improvement of shooting is not 100% based on repetition, some players are just better at it then others. How would you explain his meh free throw percentage, when he's been at the line for his entire high school/college career?


:lol: :lol: :lol: homerism? No mate... I've watched him play through HS and College and it doesn't match up with what you say.

Tell me... how many jumpers did Simmons take at LSU in his entire year there? You could probably count the total for the year on 2 hands. He only took 3 three pointers the entire season. That's because he averaged 20ppg in his sleep and played most of the time at the 4 spot.... because he is 6ft 10 and could get to the basket at will. He barely played at all at the 1 spot and was a drive and kick player or finished it himself. That was down to an idiotic coach and insistence on playing Tim Quarterman at the 1 because Quarterman can't play the 2.

Simmons actually played a lot more 1 in highschool in his senior year and ran the team than he did at LSU... and if you check out some of his highschool games he took and hit quite a few jumpers... averaged 27.5ppg at 66% shooting. Simmons only shot 30% from 3 in highschool... but he took 51 three pointers compared to only 3 for the entire College season. Again that's because he was predominantly played at the 4 at LSU which is not his best position.

At the end of the day all of this hand wringing over his shot and form is a waste of time... wait until he gets out onto an NBA court and see how he goes. Everything else is just speculation. Besides.... he is 6ft 10 pushing 6ft 11. Why is everyone losing their **** over a 6ft 10 guy not hitting 3's. :noway:
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Post#1715 » by sixerswillrule » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:03 pm

Simmons25 wrote:As a 3 to 4 year old his natural instinct is clear as day. He is clearly dribbling the ball with his left hand. He is a left hander.... so time to let the "He can't shoot because he is shooting with his wrong hand" narrative go.

You are confusing being ambidextrous with shooting with the wrong hand. His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them... so has never had to develop a consistent outside shot. It will come in time just like it did with Lebron.


I've never seen any NBA player regularly avoid taking floaters/layups with their jump shooting hand in situations where they should be using their jump shooting hand. There are lots of ambidextrous players in the league. Conley, Kyrie, Pau Gasol etc. They all use their left hand when appropriate (i.e. the defender is draped on their right side) and their right hand when appropriate (i.e. the defender is draped on their left side). Not the case with Ben. He will awkwardly use his right hand regardless. In the paint he plays like a right hand dominant player who is not comfortable finishing with his left.
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Post#1716 » by Negrodamus » Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:47 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Simmons25 wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:Evidence #3467289: Simmons is a natural righty.
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Evidence to beat all evidence below.

As a 3 to 4 year old his natural instinct is clear as day. He is clearly dribbling the ball with his left hand. He is a left hander.... so time to let the "He can't shoot because he is shooting with his wrong hand" narrative go.

You are confusing being ambidextrous with shooting with the wrong hand. His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them... so has never had to develop a consistent outside shot. It will come in time just like it did with Lebron.

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He shooting hand is weird. Up close he shoots with his right. Jump shots he shoots left. Half court shots he shoots right. Just weird lol. His trick shots he shoots right. I remember during summer league he got fouled at half court and he shot the ball anyway but he shot it with his right hand. Who does that? :lol:


I do that. I'm not in the NBA though.

My right hand/arm is stronger than my left, so throwing things like a football or basketball has just been easier with my right during my development. Jump shot isn't really about strength but precision and replicating a motion, so I've always done that with my left, which is what I use to right, eat, etc.

I'm certainly not ambidextrous; just different hands for different things.
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Post#1717 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:04 pm

Yeah. Simmons will drive the length of the court and jump off his right foot and dunk with his right hand lol. That is just so awkward. First of all if you dunk with your right hand then you would jump off your left foot. Second of all hebwas on the left side to make it more awkward. Go look st the clip when he goes coast to coast against Marquette and dunks it. That's the play I'm talking about. He has some very weird and awkward mechanics. He also will drive left a lot and then shoot with his right hand making the shot tougher. If he could easily shoot with his left hand up close he would shoot with his left hand on a layup when he drives left. He doesn't. Someone needs to ask him about that and why he can't shoot with his left on a layup.
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Post#1718 » by Kolkmania » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:11 pm

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Kolkmania wrote:I think this, " His poor shooting like Lebron comes from the fact that his entire life he has been able to blow by people and get to the rim and dunk on them." is just a clear sign of homerism. Improvement of shooting is not 100% based on repetition, some players are just better at it then others. How would you explain his meh free throw percentage, when he's been at the line for his entire high school/college career?


:lol: :lol: :lol: homerism? No mate... I've watched him play through HS and College and it doesn't match up with what you say.

Tell me... how many jumpers did Simmons take at LSU in his entire year there? You could probably count the total for the year on 2 hands. He only took 3 three pointers the entire season. That's because he averaged 20ppg in his sleep and played most of the time at the 4 spot.... because he is 6ft 10 and could get to the basket at will. He barely played at all at the 1 spot and was a drive and kick player or finished it himself. That was down to an idiotic coach and insistence on playing Tim Quarterman at the 1 because Quarterman can't play the 2.

Simmons actually played a lot more 1 in highschool in his senior year and ran the team than he did at LSU... and if you check out some of his highschool games he took and hit quite a few jumpers... averaged 27.5ppg at 66% shooting. Simmons only shot 30% from 3 in highschool... but he took 51 three pointers compared to only 3 for the entire College season. Again that's because he was predominantly played at the 4 at LSU which is not his best position.


How did we end up in this conversation? You disagreed with my concerns about Simmons shooting hand and said I misinterpreted the term ambidextrous. Now you completely ignore my two paragraphs about explaining my concerns and rant about his role at LSU, what has that to do with anything? It's something we're on the same page about though.

Making 15 out of 51 three pointers (extremely small sample size) and 178 out of 263 free throws isn't good for a perimeter player either.

Simmons25 wrote:At the end of the day all of this hand wringing over his shot and form is a waste of time... wait until he gets out onto an NBA court and see how he goes. Everything else is just speculation. Besides.... he is 6ft 10 pushing 6ft 11. Why is everyone losing their **** over a 6ft 10 guy not hitting 3's. :noway:


Well Ben Simmons is one of our two centerpieces of our franchise, so I think it's even weirder that you don't care about him not shooting threes, since that would skyrocket Simmons' ceiling.
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Post#1719 » by Ericb5 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:50 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:He shooting hand is weird. Up close he shoots with his right. Jump shots he shoots left. Half court shots he shoots right. Just weird lol. His trick shots he shoots right. I remember during summer league he got fouled at half court and he shot the ball anyway but he shot it with his right hand. Who does that? :lol:


Yeah is a mixture... I think he is genuinely ampidextrious.

You can see in his college highlights... he shoots baby hook shots and layups with his right... generally blocks shots with his right hand.

Yet when he dribbles up the court he dribbles left handed and makes his passes with his left hand as the dominant passing hand. Also shoots left handed from distance which generally you pick up as a kid because your most dominant hand is your strongest.

If he was a predominant right hander... no way in hell would he be dribbling and passing left handed most of the time.



He is generally comfortable with both hands, but he has a serious bias against finishing with his left in traffic. I think that this will be a key growth indicator for him next year.

Those weird moments where he drives left, but tries to finish back across his body with his right hand aren't going to cut it in the NBA. He may get away with it a lot of the time, but it will make it easier for smaller defenders to deal with him if he is going to need to finish that way. Extending his body to the left and finishing with the left hand will make him much more effective going that direction.
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Post#1720 » by Eyeamok » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:04 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:Simmons is a beast on defense.

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