Lakers acquire Tyler Ennis for Marcelinho Huertas

[JohnVancouver]

I was wrong about the kid, he's much better than my initial read of his game. But man, I have nightmares about brewer being here next year.

[ALL HAIL]

I was wrong about the kid, he's much better than my initial read of his game. But man, I have nightmares about brewer being here next year.

He's a solid PG to me, but my eyes tell me he isn't very comfortable off the ball. He's ace his fair share of spot up jumpers, but he's very much the traditional old-school PG ... but good things seem to happen when he's the clear ball handler and is given som offensive freedom.

[So Gutta]

Considering we got Ennis for a player who had no place in the NBA (it seems like only Jim and Mitch couldn't see this), I'd say it worked out great, lottery considerations aside. If these are the types of moves our new front office will be executing then I think it's fair to be optimistic.

[LakersSoul]

Considering we got Ennis for a player who had no place in the NBA (it seems like only Jim and Mitch couldn't see this), I'd say it worked out great, lottery considerations aside. If these are the types of moves our new front office will be executing then I think it's fair to be optimistic.

After the initial fear of what Magic will do to this organization, we are definitely better after Magic took over.

- Traded away Lou for Houston's #28 first rounder.
- Added Ennis for Huertas
- Added Nwaba
- Stopped playing Moz/Deng/Young
- Gave all the minutes to the youth
- Tried Dlo at SG
- Tried Zubac as a starting cener

Magic and Pelinka are talking about building a championship team and that means adding/having more than one all-stars. They are looking at the long term picture.

[LakersSoul]

Ennis is a FA this summer. Do we offer him a contract and how much?

I would personally give him a 2 year $4 to $5million contract as a backup (similar to TRob). Ennis might get $3 million per year but doubtful. If the FO is not so sure on Ennis, they could make the second year a team option.

[Princeinrevolt]

Ennis is a FA this summer. Do we offer him a contract and how much?

I would personally give him a 2 year $4 to $5million contract as a backup (similar to TRob). Ennis might get $3 million per year but doubtful. If the FO is not so sure on Ennis, they could make the second year a team option.

We can only offer Tyler Ennis 1 year 2.7 million dollars because before Houston traded him to us, they declined his team option.

Also we should put a team option on TRob. We need to save as much cap as possible for 2018. If we keep giving players multi-year deals we won't be able to sign max players in the future.

[ALL HAIL]

Ennis is a FA this summer. Do we offer him a contract and how much?

I would personally give him a 2 year $4 to $5million contract as a backup (similar to TRob). Ennis might get $3 million per year but doubtful. If the FO is not so sure on Ennis, they could make the second year a team option.

We can only offer Tyler Ennis 1 year 2.7 million dollars because before Houston traded him to us, they declined his team option.

You sure about that? That sounds odd.

[Princeinrevolt]

Ennis is a FA this summer. Do we offer him a contract and how much?

I would personally give him a 2 year $4 to $5million contract as a backup (similar to TRob). Ennis might get $3 million per year but doubtful. If the FO is not so sure on Ennis, they could make the second year a team option.

We can only offer Tyler Ennis 1 year 2.7 million dollars because before Houston traded him to us, they declined his team option.

You sure about that? That sounds odd.

I'm pretty sure

The Lakers will hope he plays better — just not too much better. Because his fourth-year team-option was declined, they can re-sign him for a starting salary up to just $3,066,713 (what he would’ve earned, with the rookie-scale adjustment under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, if his option had been exercised).

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/23/magic-johnsons-lakers-trade-for-point-guard-tyler-ennis-from-rockets/

[ALL HAIL]

We can only offer Tyler Ennis 1 year 2.7 million dollars because before Houston traded him to us, they declined his team option.

You sure about that? That sounds odd.

I'm pretty sure

The Lakers will hope he plays better — just not too much better. Because his fourth-year team-option was declined, they can re-sign him for a starting salary up to just $3,066,713 (what he would’ve earned, with the rookie-scale adjustment under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, if his option had been exercised).

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/23/magic-johnsons-lakers-trade-for-point-guard-tyler-ennis-from-rockets/

Ennis'd be on my radar, for sure, but I'd probably let him go in favor of Darren Collison and Ian Clark, two guys who seem to be better catch and shoot three point shooters.

It's all about what these guys and their agents are expecting though.

I have Darren Collison at around Clarkson money (12-14 mill), yes, to me, he is the mythical "second free agent" that we've all talked about ad nauseum, and I've got Ian Clark at around Black money (5-7 mill).

If Collison and Clark wanted more, then I'd definitely closely consider resigning Ennis.

[Princeinrevolt]

You sure about that? That sounds odd.

I'm pretty sure

The Lakers will hope he plays better — just not too much better. Because his fourth-year team-option was declined, they can re-sign him for a starting salary up to just $3,066,713 (what he would’ve earned, with the rookie-scale adjustment under the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, if his option had been exercised).

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/23/magic-johnsons-lakers-trade-for-point-guard-tyler-ennis-from-rockets/

Ennis'd be on my radar, for sure, but I'd probably let him go in favor of Darren Collison and Ian Clark, two guys who seem to be better catch and shoot three point shooters.

It's all about what these guys and their agents are expecting though.

I have Darren Collison at around Clarkson money (12-14 mill), yes, to me, he is the mythical "second free agent" that we've all talked about ad nauseum, and I've got Ian Clark at around Black money (5-7 mill).

If Collison and Clark wanted more, then I'd definitely closely consider resigning Ennis.

I'd probably resign him, even if we do get Ian Clark or Collison. But I wouldn't want to give Collison that type of money tbh. Too much for me, I would rather save the money for an All Star in the future.

[ALL HAIL]

I'm pretty sure



http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/02/23/magic-johnsons-lakers-trade-for-point-guard-tyler-ennis-from-rockets/

Ennis'd be on my radar, for sure, but I'd probably let him go in favor of Darren Collison and Ian Clark, two guys who seem to be better catch and shoot three point shooters.

It's all about what these guys and their agents are expecting though.

I have Darren Collison at around Clarkson money (12-14 mill), yes, to me, he is the mythical "second free agent" that we've all talked about ad nauseum, and I've got Ian Clark at around Black money (5-7 mill).

If Collison and Clark wanted more, then I'd definitely closely consider resigning Ennis.

I'd probably resign him, even if we do get Ian Clark or Collison. But I wouldn't want to give Collison that type of money tbh. Too much for me, I would rather save the money for an All Star in the future.

You wouldn't give Collison a twelve million dollar deal? You know he shot 42% from three (on only a couple attempts a game, I know)?

If Collison could come here, as a SG on offense, and shoot forty percent from three on four attempts a game and lead the defense (with Nance), he's easily worth 12 mill a year in this market.

A player like him would really, really help a team like this crossover toward winning a lot more often.

[Princeinrevolt]

Ennis'd be on my radar, for sure, but I'd probably let him go in favor of Darren Collison and Ian Clark, two guys who seem to be better catch and shoot three point shooters.

It's all about what these guys and their agents are expecting though.

I have Darren Collison at around Clarkson money (12-14 mill), yes, to me, he is the mythical "second free agent" that we've all talked about ad nauseum, and I've got Ian Clark at around Black money (5-7 mill).

If Collison and Clark wanted more, then I'd definitely closely consider resigning Ennis.

I'd probably resign him, even if we do get Ian Clark or Collison. But I wouldn't want to give Collison that type of money tbh. Too much for me, I would rather save the money for an All Star in the future.

You wouldn't give Collison a twelve million dollar deal? You know he shot 42% from three (on only a couple attempts a game, I know)?

If Collison could come here, as a SG on offense, and shoot forty percent from three on four attempts a game and lead the defense (with Nance), he's easily worth 12 mill a year in this market.

A player like him would really, really help a team like this crossover toward winning a lot more often.

I'm just thinking about the stars that can come in 2018, also Collison is more of a ball dominant Pg. He's not really a shooting guard. I'd sign him to a 1 year 12 million dollar deal, or a two year deal with a team option. He's not worth hurting our cap space in 2018 for imo.

[ALL HAIL]

I'd probably resign him, even if we do get Ian Clark or Collison. But I wouldn't want to give Collison that type of money tbh. Too much for me, I would rather save the money for an All Star in the future.

You wouldn't give Collison a twelve million dollar deal? You know he shot 42% from three (on only a couple attempts a game, I know)?

If Collison could come here, as a SG on offense, and shoot forty percent from three on four attempts a game and lead the defense (with Nance), he's easily worth 12 mill a year in this market.

A player like him would really, really help a team like this crossover toward winning a lot more often.

I'm just thinking about the stars that can come in 2018, also Collison is more of a ball dominant Pg. He's not really a shooting guard. I'd sign him to a 1 year 12 million dollar deal, or a two year deal with a team option. He's not worth hurting our cap space in 2018 for imo.

I've been watching Collison play off the ball at SG ever since he played with Farmer at UCLA. He also played a lot of SG next to Chris Paul on the Clippers.

I agree about the two years with a team option though. That would be ideal, but it leaves yourself open to competition with offers like that. Maybe a two year deal with a team option for 28 or 30 mill is the happy medium.

[milesfides]

Sick pickup.

He's the best POINT GUARD on our team.

Takes care of the ball, passes the ball, but stays aggressive with his own shot. He can get into the paint and he has a nice floater. His shooting three point shooting this year has been close to elite 39%. He can hurt you with his shooting, penetration, and passing. Love that about him, he's not one-dimensional, and he sees the game with his head up.

Defensively, he works hard, good ball pressure, and he'll steal the ball at a high rate. Also was a great defender at Syracuse.

Good size for a traditional point guard, 6'3" in shoes with a 6'7" wingspan.

But most of all, he's POINT GUARD. He plays with great confidence and control. Love his floor demeanor and leadership.

Was he playing for a contract? Sure. But he's only 22, he improved his game, so I'm bullish on his ceiling.

I'd definitely try to lock him up for cheap, then start him. No reason why we shouldn't - D'Angelo doesn't want to play point guard and Jordan Clarkson can't.

If we lose the pick or don't get Ball or Fultz, he's a must-keep.

[Dr Aki]

i'd be down for keeping him even if we kept the pick, i'm not sure (in retrospect) why houston dumped a former 1st round pick so cheaply

[ALL HAIL]

I love Ennis, but he's sooooo much better with the ball in his hands, so, to me, he's not the best fit on this roster.

Signing Collison/Holiday and Ian Clark, while drafting a shooter at the end of the first round (Peter Jok), would make this team better.

[iQon]

I'm all-in on keeping the guy, regardless of picks and FA, as long as his asking price isn't absurd. I'd love to have depth at PG with him as the 3rd option.

[iamworthy]

i'd be down for keeping him even if we kept the pick, i'm not sure (in retrospect) why houston dumped a former 1st round pick so cheaply

He's currently on his 6th team.

[ALL HAIL]

i'd be down for keeping him even if we kept the pick, i'm not sure (in retrospect) why houston dumped a former 1st round pick so cheaply

He's currently on his 6th team.

Like he said, and I suspected all along, he never got a chance until his stint here.

I see no reason why he couldn't start somewhere in the league, but, like I've said as nauseum, he seems like the type of guard that needs the ball in his hands, to his detriment on this team.

[mojo13]

Canadian here who has followed Ennis's career somewhat closely.

June 2014 picked 18th Overall: Drafted by the Phoenix Suns who already had Eric Bledsoe, Goran Dragic and Isaiah Thomas on their roster. Rumor is that Toronto (20th pick) let it slip that they desperately wanted Ennis. Phoenix thought they'd pull a fast one by grabbing him and extorting T.O. for something more (maybe the 20th and a 2nd rounder). T.O. was caught off-guard and panicked into picking Bruno who has since been a mess. T.O. was mad as hell and wouldn't engage with PHX to trade talks.

Ennis sat behind three all-start caliber point guards his first year. He spent a good amount of time in the D. He never should have been in PHX - they didn't want or need him. He never got a chance - I am not sure if I could think or a worse situation.

Feb 2015 - traded to the Bucks with Miles Plumlee. MCW ended with the Bucks too. The Bucks were trying to dump Brandon Knight and were kind of a mess with J Kidd at the helm. Jarrod Bayless was there as well. Plus the Bucks were starting to experiment with Giannis as a PG.
Ennis had actually did get some decent minutes and showed some flashes with the Bucks (despite the mess around him), I thought he was decent and was going to carve out a back-up role.
Then in May 2015, Ennis underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his right shoulder. He missed a good chunk of the 15/16 season because of this. Bucks had to find other options and picked up Grevis Vasquez.

So for 15/16 season he was hurt for the first 20-30 games then had to try to fight for minutes with MCW, Bayless, and Vasquez. Not great names, but allot of bodies. And the Giannis experiment was progressing.

By 16/17 the Bucks knew what they had with Giannis which needed a different type of PG. Thus they signed Delly and draft Brogdan. Then Middleton tears his hammy and they have a huge hole at the wing. The Rockets wanted to dump Beasley and he was a good fit with for the Bucks. The Harden at PG experiment was in it infancy and Beverley was hurt. So the Rockets wanted some back up at PG in case either went sour. Turns out Harden is a fantastic PG and Beverley healed way quicker than expected. So one again Ennis is not needed and was lost in the shuffle.

I admit he hasn't shown great potential and three teams already gave up on him (but four teams now have seen something they wanted at the time). He really has had a bad roll of the dice so far - always seeming to land in bad situations and not getting much of an opportunity or none at all.

I was getting nervous he was going to be gone from the league - it is awesome to see him show what he can do with the Lakers!